test-drb December 1999

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by philclayton＠mindspring.com

Today I found several HP Apollo Series 400 Computers headed for the dumpster. These were used as I think some sort of Servers for a medical facility. There were 20 or 30 of them I only took 5.. Opened them up and they each have a SCSI hard drive and I think 32MB RAM, However they have no Floppy drive, ISA or PCI slots in them.. They support 3 serial ports, Parallel Port, SCSI Port, Kybd, Standard Network Interfaces, and Audio In and Audio Out.. They have a place for a second SCSI drive also in them. The Processor looks to be a Motorola 68040 I think.. I hooked up my VGA monitor and powered up , but it appears to be out of sync, or a non-standard VGA out put. I could see part of a color screen, but the screen seemed out of sync and not really readable. Does anyone know what these are ?, And other than parts are they worth anything.? Can I do anything usefull with them.. ? Thanks, Phil

25 years

What did Ampex make that used core memory?

by rigdonj＠intellistar.net

I picked up a core memory board today that was made by Ampex's Memory Products Division. The date code is 8010 and the ICs are dated 1979 so it was probably made in early 1980. The sticker on the board sasy that it's a 32K x 18 memory. The board is BIG, 11 x 14 inches and has assemble number 3293212-01. Does anyone have an idea of what it's for? Joe

25 years

Everyone here should read this.. I thought I'd seen everything.

by dylanb＠sympatico.ca

I was given the name of a company a couple of days ago through the company I am getting my Super Computers from. They told me to give this guy a call and see if he had anything I was looking for. I called the number and asked to speak with an officer of the company.. the answering service took my name and number. About an hour later the owner of *this* company called me back and asked me how he could help me. I told him I was looking for old minicomputers, not some flake.. paid for shipping and paid more than scrap prices... I asked him if he ever got minicomputers/mainframes in. (getting interested) He laughed at me and said his crew of *20* goes through and cuts up for gold more than 15 MILLION pounds of mainframes per year. (I thought he was full of shit). I told him my scrapping company name and he invited me out. I flew to his place and this is what I saw: When I got there I saw a huge building with an office. In the back of the building there were 4+ forklifts driving around like mad with skid fulls of IBM mainframes and dropping then op top of each other. When I pulled around and parked my rental car I saw a guy with a pair of shears inside an IBM 1130 :-( chopping it to pieces. I went inside this *factory* and 40 feet high in places were stacked super computers, minis, micros (apples, PS/2, micro vaxes, etc), and an unbelievable number of boards. After touring through the work area I found the office and talked with the owner (was rather busy).. He gave me a quick tour showing me some super computers they were hacking up, HDS (Hitachi data Systems), IBM 3840?, and some other water cooled high speed CPUs. It blew me away.. I never thought there was such a large gold processing site for this.. that's all this company does. They also melt down CPUs direct from IBM , Hitachi, etc... I missed a bunch of old DEC stuff by one day.. They guys were just finishing killing a bunch of PDP-8s and 11s. (here is the positive spin): Of course being in total shock (I never saw so many apple computers piled to the ceiling waiting to be stripped)... we talked price on some of the systems. I can't buy them from him at scrap prices *nor* will he put systems aside... I asked him if I could go through the warehouse and check for some parts (promised not to be a nuisance).. I found a heap of super computer boards and brought one to him [the other stuff I wanted had been butchered.].. he did not want to sell them at first as he was *required* to destroy them. We came up with a deal: Any mini/mainframe computer with front panel switches and light will be put aside for one week. I have to fly down every week to see what he has there (quickly) and purchase immediately what I want. As my references panned out he will allow me to purchase boards and equipment from him under three conditions: All serial numbers removed. I don't publicize what he is doing to historical computers. [don't know why he cared] I *agree* to destroy anything I buy from him ;-) **** His company generally pays $8-10K for a super computer as the raw materials when extracted are generally worth 4X that! [I did *not* know that.].. I spent more time with him and he showed me the insides of some of the huge IBM mainframes...[water cooled].. can't say I ever saw one before... He *only* new the metal content in every piece and $$$ .... HAHAHA (rather funny... no idea of the technology) We also cut a *really* sweet deal. He owns a transport truck line and his trucks pass through Toronto *empty* every couple of weeks.. he agreed to pick up any systems I wanted around the country, drop off the ones I wanted and he would pay me for the systems I would not want [every load must of course have a mainframe or mini for him). I bought some super computer boards at slightly above gold prices... [you will see them on EBay].. They are *amazing*. Processors beyond belief... I will update everyone with a list of the minis I get and will keep my eyes out for the systems in the wish lists I have received so far. Never in the world did I ever expect to see a few thousand minis, mainframes and micros being scrapped by so many people.... BTW: That stuff in his warehouse came in over the past two weeks *and* while I was there, there were 3 transport trucks waiting in line to dump off loads of water cooled IBM/Hitachi mainframes. On a sad note, on the way out I saw a front panel with all kind of lights and switches.. It was 8 bit and was made of plastic... It was called "data systems" or something like that.. anyway.. it was crushed. :-( I will try and take some pictures the next time I am there.. I know I am not supposed to do that but I think I can get a few snapshots of what is in there just by taking a couple of photos from the outside. I took a list of IBM numbers of what was in there and will post them later on tonight. In amazement and kind of annoyed, john PDP-8 and other rare mini computers http://www.pdp8.com

25 years

SC/MP

by danny.vanbraband＠yucom.be

Hallo, While looking for info on the SC/MP developing system from National i stumbled on this message from Alisson J Parent.: On May 30, 12:24, Allison J Parent wrote: > Subject: Re: National SC/MP data > <Hi all, > <Today I bought a SC/MP wirewrapped board. Does anyone know of a site with > <data sheet? My search came up with what is known as "SC/MP II", including > <description of a "MK14" project in Practical Electronics mag. In > <particular, the chip on my board requires an unknown neg. voltage on pin > <40, instead of +5 Volts on the later NMOS versions. The actual part No. is > <ISP-8A/500D Some time ago i found one of these systems. It also included the original datasheets from National. It says that the voltage on pin 40 must be -7Volt. When you need more info i can send you a scan of the datasheets. Unfortunately my system doesn't function. So i'm looking for the scematics. Maybe you can help me out? Greetings, Danny Van Braband Belgium

25 years

shipping

by aek＠spies.com

try contacting Airgroup Express (www.airgroup.com) there is also a large list of freight forwarders at http://www.sowest.net/users/jthomp1/ffchb.htm > Do you know any shippers who can provide the quality of serice that "FORWARD AIR" has, to the Albuqueque, N.M. area????????

25 years

http://www.heydon.org/kevan/mlists/classiccmp/1998-07/msg00676.html

by normhanson＠eudoramail.com

Do you know any shippers who can provide the quality of service that "FORWARD AIR" has, to the Albuquerque, N.M. area???????? I am mostly worried about breakage, spedd does not matter........ I am shipping a very heavy brick-lined kiln........ Thanks............ Norm Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com

25 years

Dang-Nabbit! Did it again...

by zmerch＠30below.com

Sorry folks... I forgot to paste the !*#^@%$ return address in... Roger "Merch" Merchberger -- Roger "Merch" Merchberger --- sysadmin, Iceberg Computers Recycling is good, right??? Ok, so I'll recycle an old .sig. If at first you don't succeed, nuclear warhead disarmament should *not* be your first career choice.

25 years

Results of Sealed-Bid Auction

by bill_r＠inetnebr.com

For what it's worth, here are the high bids on the items in my recent sealed-bid auction. Bidding on these items is now closed. If you want to make an offer for anything else, take a look at: http://incolor.inetnebr.com/bill_r/computer-sale.htm Reasonable offers (which must at least cover my shipping and packing costs) will be entertained. I will be contacting the individual bidders on the items below via private e-mail to arrange payment and shipping details. --- Working H-89 w/external floppies 75.00 Non-working H-89 20.00 Apple Plotter 21.12 Box 'o' Software 10.00 Friden Calculators 42.02 Fulcrum S-100 Chassis 75.00 IBM PC Chassis 10.00 Modem Tester 12.42 Radio Shack Printer/Plotter 16.00 Tracer 5 1/4" 24.42 Kontron Logic Analyzer 20.00 TRS-80 Model 1 100.00 3 1/2" Floppy Duplicator 40.00 Tektronix 532 Scope 50.00 Tandy 2000 20.00 Panasonic Hand-Held Computer 21.00 Panasonic Hand-Held Computer 21.00 IBM PC Jr. Keyboards (4) 10.00 Apple Macintosh Model M0001, Serial # F4110WXM0001 20.00 North Star Horizon S-100 computer 30.00 -Bill Richman (bill_r(a)inetnebr.com) http://incolor.inetnebr.com/bill_r - Home of the COSMAC Elf Microcomputer Simulator, Fun with Molten Metal, Orphaned Robots, and Technological Oddities.

25 years

HELP! DEC AXP Serial Console

by msg＠waste.org

Thanks for replies regarding the cable. It turns out that our cable wiring is ok and the AXP firmware expects 9600,8,1,n although it will display at 9600,7,1,e. Attempts to run 'cu' on the unix host (which provides the terminal session) at 8bit no parity creates a session at 8bit odd parity (a longer total frame) which confounds the AXP. Using 'kermit' instead is the solution for now. Michael Grigoni Cybertheque Museum

25 years

VAXstation 3100 history (Was ... different)

by ethan_dicks＠yahoo.com

--- healyzh(a)aracnet.com wrote: > So *THAT* is what an 11/725 is! <shudder> Isn't the RC25 one of those drives > that rates about the same if not worse than a RD53? What I was refering to > is that VMS V5.1 is the last version to support it. I still wonder why. The only thing I can think of is that either the driver for the RC25 was removed or that VMS would no longer fit on an RC25 cartridge as a boot volume. The drives used two platters, one fixed, one removable, 26Mb each. You spun them up as a pair. When I got my 11/725 in 1988 ($4K), the guys who shipped it didn't ship it with a removable cart (they also shipped it sans grant cards and the terminator shoved all the way up the UNIBUS which fried the PSU on power-on). > Hmmm, now I'm going to have to dig up one of my catalogues and see if it's > the 11/725 or another system that I saw a picture of and thought it looked > cool. Could very well be, is the 11/725 a really tiny system that could go > beside a desk? It's a little larger than a BA123 and about the same proportions. I wanted one because it was the most affordable VAX at the time. I wish I still had it. :-( Fortunately for me, my boss paid the $4K, I only paid $1.5K for it. -ethan ===== Infinet has been sold. The domain is going away in February. Please send all replies to erd(a)iname.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com

25 years

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test-drb December 1999