Hi! I've been collecting older equipment for a few years now, but i've only
recently found out about this list. It looks like a great resource, and I
was thinking it'd probably be a good place to ask the question:
"Does anybody know of anywhere in southwest Michigan where one can find
older surplus minicomputer and workstation equipment?"
I've been able to aquire a fair amount of interesting stuff from the local
university, but it's been slow going and parts are hard to get. I've seen
postings to lists numerous times about people giving machines away in
places like Texas and the East Coast, but never anything in this general
area.. i'm guessing there isnt quite as much of a glut of equipment in
the area, but maybe i'm just not looking in the right places!
I'd really appreciate any bones anybody could throw me :)
Thanks,
-Netdiablo (root(a)diablonet.net)
gentlemen,
the featureless panels are definitely from a Univac file 0 computer and
even though they were commercially available in large numbers i doubt
you have a piece of one.
if you do not have a piece i will be glad to have your bid on my ebay
offerings.
how can you blame ebay for my ads? do you think the "pieces" would keep
selling if the bidders were not satisfied?
i am not the person who was selling the system 360 pieces, but sounds
like he had a good deal too:))
a side note to mrbill. i took a look at your pages and they are complex
and beautiful BUT you have a large number of links on the sun page all
highlighted together. i know you will want to fix that.
i do not intend to start a war with this letter, just to let you know my
position and that you have hurt my feelings:((
"pathetic" ed
=====Ed
Well, my local campus computer repair shop called, asking if i wanted
some junk they had. I picked up a trs80 model 1 (looks like I need to
find a cassette player), a apple ][ plus with various mods installed
and a analog/digital board, and a compaq portable III. Not bad for
walking 2.5 blocks from my office.
The NCR i mentioned earlier was too heavy, 80 pounds or so, so i left it.
The apple ][ plus has, among other mods, a modification near the keyboard
and speaker. A raised board with 2 IC's and a socket, its connected to one
of the IC sockets on the main board, plus it has a 4 wire cable with connector.
For some reason this is not plugged in. Am I correct it guessing this might
be a lowercase modification, and that its unplugged to restore normal
operation? any idea what the correct way to plug the connector in is? It
looks like i could plug it in backwards as well as the normal way, so I
have a 50/50 chance of making a major mistake...
-Lawrence LeMay
Ed,
since I started this thread, maybe I can respond to some of your points. I
don't blame e-bay or you for running the ads (it's a free continent), but I
think you've crossed a line of common sense or fair business practice. In
short, my objections to your ads are as follows:
1) You're selling such tiny pieces that they'd be easy to fake
2) Even as collectibles, they're not very interesting, and
3) I'd prefer to preserve old computers, not cut them up for scrap.
Sorry for hurting your feelings, but consider:
There are a lot of scammers out there - in the art and antiques world,
fakes and reproductions abound. Old and historic computers are starting to
attract serious money, so the incentive to create computer fakes is
growing. To be blunt, you carve your scrap into such small pieces that I
could saw up an old file cabinet or raid my spares box and I could make
pieces indistinguishable from what you're selling. You don't even have any
pictures of the parts in place before you carved up the machine to act as a
"provenance" - the bills of sale just prove that you had a Univac at one
time. Please note, I'm not accusing you of lying or faking anything - I'm
just saying that it would be easy to produce such fakes, so "buyer beware".
And, even as collectibles, I don't feel that what you're selling is not
very interesting. Old vacuum tubes, circuit boards, and hard drive
platters/innards at least have some visual interest. If you can sell 6" x
10" pieces of painted metal as historic computer collectibles, you're a
heck of a salesman.
Most importantly, the members of this list are generally people who want to
preserve/restore old computers in working condition. We are always on the
prowl for rare or unusual computers and spare parts. Increasingly, some
older computers are being carved up to produce collectibles like the ones
you sell. A concrete example is core memory planes from PDP-8 computers;
some people rip these out of old 8s and hang them on the wall as art - most
of us would prefer to preserve the working machine.
Just my thoughts.
Mark.
-----Original Message-----
From: helicopterman(a)webtv.net <helicopterman(a)webtv.net>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Wednesday, November 10, 1999 3:58 PM
Subject: Re: Ebay reaches new low
>gentlemen,
>the featureless panels are definitely from a Univac file 0 computer and
>even though they were commercially available in large numbers i doubt
>you have a piece of one.
>if you do not have a piece i will be glad to have your bid on my ebay
>offerings.
>how can you blame ebay for my ads? do you think the "pieces" would keep
>selling if the bidders were not satisfied?
>i am not the person who was selling the system 360 pieces, but sounds
>like he had a good deal too:))
>i do not intend to start a war with this letter, just to let you know my
>position and that you have hurt my
lings:((
>"pathetic" ed
>=====Ed
A pressure cooker is basically an autoclave. When canning vegetables the
heat and pressure destroy any pathogens.
Autoclaving is used to sterilize instruments and medical devices. The
instruments are usually enclosed in a porous package that allows the
moisture into the package and keeps any contaminants out. The high pressure
with moisture is designed to activate and destroy any bacterial spores that
may be in the package. There is usually a heat activated strip in the tape
on the package that changes from invisible to brown and says "sterile". Any
device that could be damaged by heat such as a plastic catheter can be "cold
sterilized" by ethylene oxide gas. This is not as effective as the
heat/moisture method. Also used on medical waste to reduce the chances of
spread of disease.
Many medical devices are now sterilized by ionizing radiation, gamma
particles, a radiation source is exposed next to cases of the products and
hopefully "zaps" the DNA in any contaminants.
Another use of autoclaves is to laminate layers of carbon fiber cloth to
create composite aircraft and machine parts. The heat and pressure cause
the bonding agents, such as epoxy, to bind the layers together. I think the
B2 and F117 skins are created by this process.
More than anyone wants to know about autoclaves.
Mike McFadden
Does anyone have the wiring lists for the CXA16 aync multiplexers? I've got
one with the S-box handles that I'd like to mount in my uVAX 3900 instead
of the DHV11 (which has its ribbon cables squeezing out between a paid of
blank covers.) But I need the break out cable in order to plug in terminals
to it.
Alternatively if you have a spare cable ...
--Chuck
Does someone desperately want a NCR model 4? I know nothing about it, no
software as far as i know, etc. It has a 5 1/4 floppy and a hard drive
installed in the 2 bays.
-Lawrence LeMay
Hi There,
If you still have that old HP 9000/300 computer, let me know. I know it?s kind of late asking after 6 months.
Maybe you still have it.
Thanks
Theo Stevens
As I was digging through a box of computer surplus I came across the
following:
Dun/brown colored terminal device with what looks like a 3" high display
with a pair of foam cups, acoustic modem, on the back. Full size keyboard.
It looks like a calculator except for the qwerty keyboard and the modem.
Labeled as follows
Computer Devices series 2000
I've searched both altavista, google, and yahoo and I haven't found anything
close. Maybe I need to examine it more closely.
Does anybody have any ideas?
Thanks Mike
Hopefully someone here can help......
I'm after a keyboard for a PET 2001 - the original chiclet style, screen printed job. I've got a working 2001, but the keyboard has been more or less destroyed to the point where it is beyond repair. So if someone has a broken PET with a functional keyboard, I'd be really, really, really appreciative if they would part with it.....
Thanks,
Lance
PS: I'm in OZ, but on such a small component, I'm willing to take it from anywhere.
