>How many other East Coast PDP11 types are interested in this stuff...
>I'm in.
I'm interested as well... I wish it were closer so I could help
in the move...
Megan Gentry
Former RT-11 Developer
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At 03:15 AM 11/10/99 +0000, Mr. Diablo wrote:
> >"Does anybody know of anywhere in southwest Michigan where one can find
> >older surplus minicomputer and workstation equipment?"
West central Indiana is not the far away.
On Tue, 09 Nov 1999 @ 21:43:46, Chuck McManis <cmcmanis(a)mcmanis.com> wrote:
< words of advice snipped >
> After a short while, rent a warehouse because if you start seriously asking
> for stuff it _will_ start arriving and you will be inundated!
Never were truer words spoken by a wiser man ;-)
My first mess of DEC equipment came from someone who called me. The next
thing I know I am wondering where to store it all while I sort it out.
The latest call was to see if I was interested in a mess of Intel boxes.
Hard to say no, when who knows what goodies might be lurking inside the
next machine you pull the cover off of. One thing early on is to
convince your significant other that there is nothing abnormal about
having multiple computers in multiple rooms of the house.
Mike
I am just starting to go through the backplanes on the 8I and found I have a
plotter interface with the M704 module. What plotter can I hook this up to?
I have a lot of plotter paper tape software.... but what can I use it on?
Hi,
I bought an IBM 9066 scanner at the MIT flea, and can't find any mention of
it on the IBM website. As you might imagine, I need drivers. The scanner is
by and large labelled in Japanese. Web searches turn up nothing but other
people asking the same question in bulletin boards (with no answer). Does
anyone here have drivers?
Thanks
Dumpster-Dive alert from a Newbie.
Two Control Data Corp 9766 Storage Module Drive units
to go ** FREE ** to a good home in the tri state
(New York, New Jersey, Conecticut this time)
area.
These are the Classic drives from the late 70's that
everybody at the time is probably familliar with
( Open the top like a clotheswasher, lock in a removable
300MB platter array, push the start button & go )
I don't remember the DEC designator for this but I'm
positive that Many companies re-marketed this as their
own component to their MiniComputer offerings, they were
everywhere, I used one in in 1982, but I don't need three
now.
These two were taken from a system deactivated just
recently. One of the diskpacks was marked something
like "Backup Nov-1997" so it's a pretty good guess that
everything was working.
They are sitting safe in an office right now, but Pls.
act fast if you're interested.
FYI JEA (John Allain)
>>Remember When...
> >
> > A computer was something on t.v.
> > from a science fiction show of note
> > A window was something you hated to clean
> > and ram was the cousin of a goat
> >
> > Meg was the name of my girlfriend
> > and gig was a job for the nights
> > now they all mean different things
> > and that really mega bytes
> >
> > An application was for employment
> > A program was a t.v. show
> > A cursor used profanity
> > A keyboard was a piano
> >
> > Memory was something that you lost with age
> > A CD was a bank account
> > And if you had a 3" floppy
> > you hoped nobody found out
> >
> > Compress was something you did to the garbage
> > Not something you did to a file
> > And if you unzipped anything in public
> > you'd be in jail for awhile
> > Log on was adding wood to the fire
> > Hard drive was a long trip on the road
> > A mouse pad was where a mouse lived
> > And a backup happened in your commode
> >
> > Cut you did with a pocket knife
> > Paste you did with glue
> > A web site was a spider's home
> > and a virus was the flu
> >
> > I guess I'll stick to my pad and paper
> > And the memory in my head
> > I hear nobody's been killed in a computer crash
> > But when it happens they wish they were dead >>
I'm looking to get a Micromodem IIE and an Applecat modem. I'd prefer a
trade, but I might be willing to shell out some cash for the stuff. I have
some C64 equipment, VIC-20, TI99 equipment, Apple II stuff also.
<> Is this a problem? Firstly, who says you'd use an MS-DOS format -- the
<> CoCo uses 256 byte sectors for virtually everything, and I'd suggest
<> keeping to that on the HD disks, just having more of them. As to being
<> more wasteful, well, MS-DOS 360K (and 720K) disks fit 9 512byte sectors
<> on a track, the CoCo fits 18 256byte sectors. Looks the same to me.
My ampro and Kaypro run a 10x512 and 5x1024 format that yeilds 781k.
If those sector sizes are awkward then bufer them for host deblocking.
Doing that will also get you a mini-cache with a small perfomance increase..
Allison
What you've said here is probably the case. THIS environment is the only
one in which I've ever encountered the claim that the 4004 was in any way
related to the 8008, eexcept for the label. Nevertheless, since I didn't
know much about it then, I probably know even less now.
Dick
-----Original Message-----
From: Dwight Elvey <elvey(a)hal.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Thursday, November 11, 1999 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: Computers and other hardware containing the 8008 microprocessor
>"Richard Erlacher" <edick(a)idcomm.com> wrote:
>> Well . . . one version of the story, according to Adam Osborne, in his
book
>> (3-volume set) on microcomputers, was that Datapoint paid for the
>> development of the 8008 for use in this jewel, then concluded that it
wasn't
>> fast enough, so now Intel had a paid-for 8-bit version of their 4004,
which
>> Osborned didn't say was what this was, but one might see a connection,
>> nonetheless.
>
>Hi
> From what I remember, the 8008 and the 4004 were two separate
>projects, developed some in parallel by two separate teams
>that didn't communicate much. The way the 8008 and the 4004
>treat memory is quite different. The ALU is quite different.
>I would say that the 8008 was not just a simple expansion
>of the 4004. Because of the overlap in time, I don't even
>think that any of the concepts, good or bad, of the 4004
>were carried over to the 8008. The 4040 was definitely
>an enhancement of the basic 4004.
>Dwight
>