<It does this for each of the drives. The drives "sound good" for what i
< worth. Is there some special trick to getting a Q540 to act like a RD52
< does the VS2000 have a dislike for RD52's, or (my personal suspicion) i
< the drive simply dead.
ok, Quantum DQ540s are RD52... no difference, as I have RD52s and guess
what they also say on the outside. Also the QD540 is about as reliable a
drive as you can find.
VS2000 likes the following:
20mb Seagate St225
40mb Seagate ST251
31mb Quantum QD540
71mb Micropolus 1325
159mb Maxtor 2190 series
Now if the drive is incorrectly jumpered it will not work. If it's been
formatted on say a PC the format mode of the VS2000 may not work as
expected. Meaning you have to fill in the values manually.
Allison
I'm sure that the problem is that earlier, you had a different
concept of interesting machines. I don't think minis and workstations
were ever very common at hamfests, compared to common micros. I don't
think PCs are bringing an end to classic computing; sooner or later,
all PDPs and VAXen and IMSAIs will be in the hands of collectors.
In the meantime, some interesting machines are still being made.
The AS/400 for example, is a non-micro. The problem, I guess, is that
when the computer market got a life of its own and was no longer
paid for by the government, PHBs didn't see the beauty of an 8-opcode
machine that had been developed for 10 years. And as long as computers
are commercial, we'll see much less of this 'interesting' stuff.
Maybe if Transmeta comes out with something, it will be interesting
10 years from the release. Then again, it might be another WinChip...
>upon pile of motherboards, I/O cards, VGA cards, etc on sale. And very
>few 'interesting' machines.
>
Did Compaq document their machines well?
>
>Actually, I do tend to buy genuine IBM cards, especially if they're
>described in the TechRefs. A lot of them did 'set the standard' for
what
>followed, and although poorly designed certainly have a place in the
>history of computing.
>
>[AT/370]
>
>> Too bad no technical docs were ever available, it would be fun to
port
>> Linux to them.
>
>YEs, I've never managed to trace a TechRef for them, alas...
>
>>
>
>-tony
>
>
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Well, if someone doesn't want to run a microsoft OS, does that
mean they don't want any version of DOS because they think DOS sucks?
CP/M doesn't suck any more or any less, IMHO. Maybe a bit more
>< various UNIXoids. I'd rather run DOS in that particular case.
>
>You neglect CP/M-86 and CCPM. Also MINIX (unix like) and a few other
more
>obscure OSs.
>
>Allison
>
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I picked up 5 Quantum Q540's yesterday in the hope of being able to get
some usable diskspace for one of my PDP-11's. These are the same as a RD52
>from what I've been able to find out.
I stick one of the drives in my VS2000 and try to format it with the following
results:
>>> T 70
KA410-A RDRXfmt
VSfmt_QUE_unitno (0-2) ? 0
VSfmt_STS_Siz .??
VSfmt_RES_ERR #2
84 FAIL
It does this for each of the drives. The drives "sound good" for what it's
worth. Is there some special trick to getting a Q540 to act like a RD52,
does the VS2000 have a dislike for RD52's, or (my personal suspicion) is
the drive simply dead.
Zane
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Someone wrote:
>> Java is the closest thing we've got today to an architecture-neutral
>> executable environment.
Except for the fact that it pretty much requires that IEEE floating point be
used. Yes, Virginia, there are lots of machines out there that don't
do IEEE math! And there are many good reasons to *not* use IEEE floating
point.
William Donzelli pointed out:
> C is well established, Java is not.
True, but C itself if far from portable. The endless maze of #ifdef's
that are necessary to make a piece of source code portable among a limited
set of machines and OS's are fine and dandy unless you have to support all
those different permutations!
> People keep worrying about what the
> different companies will do to extend or change Java. When Java gets to be
> a truely standard, then I might say OK.
Part of the problem is that folks are already using Java in ways that
are not portable. It's almost as bad as those web pages that come up
and *insist* that you change your graphics mode to 640x480 or
some other particular size - why do folks insist on starting with a
nice general information-based document standard and then turn it into
a nonportable one???!!! At least, in my experience, any page that
insists on being viewed at some particular resolution inevitably has
absolutely zero information content, so I don't want to view it anyway.
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< Well, I don't know of any OS that runs on an XT besides DOS and
< various UNIXoids. I'd rather run DOS in that particular case.
You neglect CP/M-86 and CCPM. Also MINIX (unix like) and a few other more
obscure OSs.
Allison
This is at LEAST the third time he's listed that Altair 8800 on eBay, and it
failed to sell AGAIN, this time topping out at a "mere" $2225.
Has anybody exchanged email with him? What the hell is this guy doing?
Kai
Well, I don't know of any OS that runs on an XT besides DOS and
various UNIXoids. I'd rather run DOS in that particular case.
>were running MS-DOS when I worked there back in 90-91. Possibly
>not the best way to run the gear (is MS-DOS _ever_ the best way to
>run the gear?) but functional. Don't recall any '486 NGENs -- I
>was working with the Unisys 6000 series mostly, didn't actually
>_use_ any NGENs myself, but did use several old (left over from the
>AT&T contract) Unix PCs as my consoles for the machines I was doing
>software QA on. The '486 was fairly new at the time, I'd been given
>to understand that NGEN was a dead series then -- pretty machines
>that they were.
>--
>Ward Griffiths <mailto:gram@cnct.com> <http://www.cnct.com/home/gram/>
>
>When I was crossing the border into Canada, they asked me if I had any
>firearms with me. I said "Well, what do you need?" -- Steven Wright
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Well, I feel the same way about Apples. I mean, I find Apple IIs as
boring as any PC XT. And both are quite common. I sometimes find
various PC clone models interesting, but not very. But about these
370 cards, am I to understand they're normal PCs that can also act
like 370s?
>You're right! I should have paid more attention to the NAQ list.
>I guess there's simply no refuge from x86 PCs; they invade every
newsgroup
>and mailing list. Not to mention surplus stores; it's getting very
hard
>to find anything interesting because the places are completely overrun
>with PC crap. As if anyone really wants huge piles of off-brand EGA
cards
>(or any EGA cards), ARCnet cards, etc. Sigh.
>
>The only halfway interesting PC-based hardware I've ever found surplus
are
>the XT/370 and AT/370 board sets, and I've never gotten the software
for
>them. If anyone wants them, though, I think Timeline is still
advertising
>them. Be forewarned, however, that they are mapped to the 512K-640K
>memory address range, so they won't work unless you have a motherboard
that
>can be configured to NOT provide memory in that range.
>
>These boards contained three processors, a custom-microcoded 68000
variant
>to implement the core 370 instruction set, a standard 68000 to
implement
>the instructions that wouldn't fit in the microcode of the first one,
and
>a custom version of the 8087 hacked to do IBM radix-16 floating point
>instead of IEEE.
>
>Too bad no technical docs were ever available, it would be fun to port
>Linux to them.
>
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