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>Subject: Re: Looking for WPS-Plus DOS and DECmates
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I have several decmate IIs and IIIs that are going to be scrapped. I would be
happy to sell one or all. $20 each plus shipping. I have 4 or 5 IIIs and a
couple of IIs I think.
I am in Portland, Oregon
Thnks,
Paxton Hoag
whoagiii(a)aol.com
WhoagIII(a)aol.com
You people thought you were weird. Would you believe there's an article
in the Wall Street Journal today about people who collect (and pay
outrageous eBay sums for)--get this---old sneakers?
A pair of some Nike something-or-others sold for $2,300 on ebay, and some
fetch up to $5,000. And we thought all the money was in Altairs.
I'm sorry, but sneakers I can not understand. Computers, yes. Beanie
babies, maybe. Sneakers??
Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com
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:-)
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-Jason
(roblwill(a)usaor.net)
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> From: CLASSICCMP(a)timaxp.trailing-edge.com
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
> Subject: RE: Shoe collectors?
> Date: Monday, September 21, 1998 11:02 PM
>
> You know what I always wanted? A shoe phone. And with today's
technology,
> it'd be easy to do. (I'd have to learn some about shoe repair, but I
> wouldn't mind.) Put that together with my cone of silence, and...
>
> --
> Tim Shoppa Email: shoppa(a)trailing-edge.com
> Trailing Edge Technology Voice: 301-767-5917
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>You people thought you were weird. Would you believe there's an article
>in the Wall Street Journal today about people who collect (and pay
>outrageous eBay sums for)--get this---old sneakers?
You know what I always wanted? A shoe phone. And with today's technology,
it'd be easy to do. (I'd have to learn some about shoe repair, but I
wouldn't mind.) Put that together with my cone of silence, and...
--
Tim Shoppa Email: shoppa(a)trailing-edge.com
Trailing Edge Technology Voice: 301-767-5917
7328 Bradley Blvd Fax: 301-767-5927
Bethesda, MD, USA 20817
I purchased a Tandy 600 at the York Hamfest on Sunday. The unit doesn't
seem to work - the screen fills up with garbage (just alternating pixels,
about 75% black). Anybody know what could cause this?
I'm trying to take the unit apart so I can look at it, but its not
opening up very easily. Are there screws under the four rubber feet on
the bottom? They're in so good I'd have to tear them apart to get them
out, which I hate to do unless I know there are actually screws under it.
Thanks.
Tom Owad
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Sysop of Caesarville Online
Client software at: <http://home.earthlink.net/~tomowad/>
Don't take apart. The only time you should have to do this is when you
need to replace the battery pack. Here's what you should do:
Perform a cold start.
Before you perform a cold start, be sure the RAM Memory switch on the
bottom of the computer is ON. Then, briefly press the [BKSP], [ALT],
[LABEL], and [POWER] keys at the same time. Release the [POWER] key
first, then the others. All data files stored in memory are erased, and
the System Manager screen appears.
If this doesn't work, turn off the RAM switch, and try everything again
after a minute. Just remember to turn the RAM switch back on before you
do.
GooD LucK,
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-Jason
(roblwill(a)usaor.net)
ICQ#-1730318
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> From: Tom Owad <tomowad(a)earthlink.net>
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
> Subject: Tandy 600 questions
> Date: Monday, September 21, 1998 9:06 PM
>
> I purchased a Tandy 600 at the York Hamfest on Sunday. The unit doesn't
> seem to work - the screen fills up with garbage (just alternating pixels,
> about 75% black). Anybody know what could cause this?
>
> I'm trying to take the unit apart so I can look at it, but its not
> opening up very easily. Are there screws under the four rubber feet on
> the bottom? They're in so good I'd have to tear them apart to get them
> out, which I hate to do unless I know there are actually screws under it.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Tom Owad
>
> --
> Sysop of Caesarville Online
> Client software at: <http://home.earthlink.net/~tomowad/>
>
>VSfmt_RES_ERR #2
> 84 FAIL
>
>It does this for each of the drives. The drives "sound good" for what it's
>worth. Is there some special trick to getting a Q540 to act like a RD52
Really silly question: what have you set the drive select jumper to
on the Q540's? Generally on VAXen you have to set the DS to the third
position (DS3 if it starts at one, DS2 if it starts at zero.)
--
Tim Shoppa Email: shoppa(a)trailing-edge.com
Trailing Edge Technology Voice: 301-767-5917
7328 Bradley Blvd Fax: 301-767-5927
Bethesda, MD, USA 20817
How many DeForest double wing audions did Chris drop? Did they bounce
or shatter?
Marty
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Subject: Re: Linux on S/370? Was: Re: printer socket (Off topic)
Author: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu at internet
Date: 9/21/98 11:16 AM
> Less S/370s out there? I would think, since they are more recent vintage,
> there would be more. Any reason why? I'll keep my eyes peeled for you
though.
I think is simply the prestige of the S/360s. After all, they are probably
the single most influential computer family of the 1960s. The S/370s just
do not have the same magic in their name.
> Yeah, even my beige box 9370 is boring as heck to look at :-( (It's a CMOS
> version of the S/370 from 1987/88.) No interesting front panels, can't
> tinker with hardware much at all, etc. Pah!
Even the last of the machines tagged "System/370" started to lose their
panels. By the time the 3033 and 4331 came out (mid to late 1970s), the
panels were gone. IBM used the same cabinets until recently switching over
to the black and red (very sharp looking) S/390s.
S/370 panels are amazing. Unlike the S/360 panels, they are black with all
sorts of color coding, and liberal use of the hexadecimal knobs for
setting the registers.
I would like to find a picture of any old S/370 on the Web, but I have not
come accross one yet.
> Christian Fandt, Electronic/Electrical Historian
Lets give Chris a big hand for being an Auction helper at the Antique
Wireless Association meet in Rochester, NY just a few weeks ago. He did
not drop too many things.
William Donzelli
william(a)ans.net
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At 07:21 PM 21-09-98 -0500, Doug Yowza wrote:
>Excellent idea! That's part of the reason to choose Java :-) Sun's Java
>compiler is written in Java, and generates code for the Java virtual
>machine. Most of the Java runtime environment is also written in Java,
>except for the machine-level glue which is written in a combo of C and
>assembler.
I guess the only difference is that BCPL is significantly smaller and
simpler. I doubt that I could move Java to a new environment within a week,
whereas I'd be confident that anyone with some simple programming skills
could move BCPL, even with the limited documentation that exists.
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<The AS/400 for example, is a non-micro. The problem, I guess, is that
< when the computer market got a life of its own and was no longer
< paid for by the government, PHBs didn't see the beauty of an 8-opcode
????? the government did make a few interesting machines but the bulk
of them from Univac on were the result of private industry trying to make
the better mouse trap.
having played with a minuteman missle computer (you could get them surplus
in the early '70s). I can say they are interesting for their day and hard
as hell to program usefully as they were not innovative.
< machine that had been developed for 10 years. And as long as computers
< are commercial, we'll see much less of this 'interesting' stuff.
< Maybe if Transmeta comes out with something, it will be interesting
There are a lot of intresting machine of very current design that while
not part of the converstation here as classics the cpus are none the less
interesting even though they are neither PC or pc.
Allison