At 02:18 PM 6/9/98 -0400, Doug wrote:
>
>Greetings,
>
>>
>Does anyone know what this thing is?
>
>
No, but there's a bunch of manuals for a Wang PC in a trift store here.
Let me know if you want them. I'll check the model number on them the next
time I'm there.
Joe
At 10:36 PM 6/8/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Remember: Good, Fast, Cheap pick any two. Here in the USA the cost to
>repair often exceeds value on unit, of comes very close to it. A new
>boom box 125$, an hour of service time is typically 35-50$ plus parts
>(usually a subassembly). If the set is more than x many years old the
>feature of a new one and the cost to repair... In some places where
>goods are scarce or expensive that level of waste can't exist.
^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^
You know, I've heard of this. A friend of mine was visiting a customer
in Serbia (part of the former Yugoslavia), and he was totally amazed that
technicians there were repairing "throw away" modules from the motorola
"MX" portable UHF radios. They used home-made tools, and reverse-engineered
schematics (the exact contents of these modules was supposed to be a
secret).
Clever, these eastern europeans . . . .
>
>I've gotten some good equipment for this reason. I also have some old
>equipment because I could fix it real cheap. My first 11/23 was made
>from failed FS spares returns that were 'shot to the chip level. That
>includes the RL02 I got on a bet. It was mine of I could fix it, it had
>been totally taken appart by several people that couldn't fix it...
>problem was a bad crimp on a spade lug to the motor start cap. It's
>still running and I've never used a alignment pack that one of the
>people that took it apart said it would need despite the heads never
>being desturbed.
>
>Then again I can solder too.
>
>Allison
>
>
>
>
Does anyone know how to access the BIOS of an old Toshiba 2200sx
laptop? It is Pheonix, but I can't tell what version, etc., as it
flashes on screen very fast. I need to set up the COM ports of this
thing and can't seem to figure it out.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
CORD COSLOR
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-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Duell <ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Tuesday, June 09, 1998 8:35
Subject: Re: Early Mac Clones
>>
>> bit hard getting a mac into a pc case though, remember that macs have all
>> the connectors on board,
>
>Why do all computer owners forget about tools other than screwdrivers ?
>
>The above problem can be solved either by drilling/cutting the PC case to
>allow plugs to fit into the sockets on the Mac logic board, or by making
>up extension cables between connectors on the case and those on the logic
>board.
>
>>
>> desie
>
>-tony
>
email: desieh(a)southcom.com.au
desieh(a)bigfoot.com
museum_curator(a)hotmail.com
Apple Lisa Web Page:
http://www.southcom.com.au/~desieh/index.htm
I know, Ive done it before, the back panel is not a pretty site
afterwoods.............
I remember a program, actually a sound driver, that was written for
computers without sound cards. I think it was intended for Windows
3.1 or something like that to allow simple .wav files to be played
--- in lue of a sound card -- simply used the internal pc speaker.
If you have any information on something like this, could you respond
to me via private e-mail?
Thanks,
CORD COSLOR
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<rearranging RAM in others (so the SIMMS were no longer paired). Noone
<solved this. Better yet, the next issue, they published a letter
<saying that these were clearly artificial problems, and I quote,
<"IDE cables just don't fail". The guy said that a tech would never
<think to look at it.
Poor, while unlikely the obvious is the problem.
<BTW, do you train service techs?
Sometimes if they needed someone in my specialty on short call. More
often the trainers were part of my product development team and I was
managing technology transfer and strategy for repair. I was tasked
mostly with developing the service process/plan.
Remember: Good, Fast, Cheap pick any two. Here in the USA the cost to
repair often exceeds value on unit, of comes very close to it. A new
boom box 125$, an hour of service time is typically 35-50$ plus parts
(usually a subassembly). If the set is more than x many years old the
feature of a new one and the cost to repair... In some places where
goods are scarce or expensive that level of waste can't exist.
I've gotten some good equipment for this reason. I also have some old
equipment because I could fix it real cheap. My first 11/23 was made
>from failed FS spares returns that were 'shot to the chip level. That
includes the RL02 I got on a bet. It was mine of I could fix it, it had
been totally taken appart by several people that couldn't fix it...
problem was a bad crimp on a spade lug to the motor start cap. It's
still running and I've never used a alignment pack that one of the
people that took it apart said it would need despite the heads never
being desturbed.
Then again I can solder too.
Allison
<Give me a person who likes and works with machines and understands
<block diagrams, transmission lines, and power and servo subsystems
<and he/she'll beat the hell out of the paper wonders any time.
That says it all.
Allison
Greetings,
I saw a very large Wang box at a thrift store yesterday, I *think* the
little sticker on it said "PC-002". I didn't see the keyboard, but I
didn't look.
The machine was really big, I think about twice the height of an old
IBM-PC and about the same width. It was longer than it was wide.
It had two full-height 5.25" floppy drives.
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Owad <tomowad(a)earthlink.net>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Tuesday, June 09, 1998 6:09
Subject: Re: Early Mac Clones
>>I made a timely find today of the first edition of _Build Your Own
>>Macintosh and Save a Bundle_. In Chapter 2 it has a price comparison
>>between the clone "Cat" Mac and the real Mac. The computers it lists are:
>>
>>Cat Mac SE
>>Cat Mac SE 30
>>Cat Mac II
>>Cat Mac IIfx
>>Cat Mac IIcx
>>Cat Mac IIci
>
>I was referring to the actual clones. I'm not sure where it is in your
>book, but in my 2nd edition, if you look at Chapter 11, Cat Mac builder
>alternatives, you will see mention of the Mac clones Zane listed.
>
>Tom Owad
>
email: desieh(a)southcom.com.au
desieh(a)bigfoot.com
museum_curator(a)hotmail.com
Apple Lisa Web Page:
http://www.southcom.com.au/~desieh/index.htm
So it seems that no one has been able to reverse engineer Mac roms?
Is it just that no one cares or is Apples legal department much tighter than
IBMs
