Please stop this, we've been over it a million times.
It ALWAYS generates MORE traffic on the list to argue about it than it does
to simply ignore the auction posts if you don't like 'em.
Kai
At 12:58 AM 6/10/98 -0500, you wrote:
>The first DOS laptop with a pointing device was the GRiD 1550SX, and it
>had an isopoint (tootsie-roll) similar to the Outbound Mac-clone.
What year did the 1550sx come out? I'll have to watch for it... 8^)
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> On Tue, 9 Jun 1998, Zane H. Healy wrote:
>
> > Was this one of the ones from about '92? If it's the one I'm thinking of,
> > it would be the first with the 'pencil' pointer in the keyboard. For all I
> > know, the first built in pointer (I'd not seen any prior to this). Of
> > course I really remember it running AIX and OS/2 at the same time (I hate
> > AIX, but sure wish they had released that product).
>
> That must be it. The TP700 was the first with the TrackPoint (eraser
> head).
Interestingly enough there was a thread recently on comp.sys.ibm.ps2 re the
collectiveity of PS2 s. Most mentioned the 700. Some quotes :
"The Thinkpad 710T (IBMs first Trackpad). I have one - without the 5MB
TP-File. There were two different model-lines out: one has a 2.5" IDE HD,
the other has a 5,10 or 20MB PCMCIA Solid State disk. The SSD-models have a
different planar and cannot be converted into IDE-models. I have a
SSD-model (2523-AY9) but no TP-Filecard. Too bad."
" 9552 Thinkpad 700 C, one of the last microchannel Thinkpads"
ciao larry
>
> The first DOS laptop with a pointing device was the GRiD 1550SX, and it
> had an isopoint (tootsie-roll) similar to the Outbound Mac-clone.
>
> -- Doug
>
>
>
lwalker(a)interlog.com
At 10:28 PM 6/9/98 -0700, you wrote:
>Was this one of the ones from about '92? If it's the one I'm thinking of,
>it would be the first with the 'pencil' pointer in the keyboard. For all I
>know, the first built in pointer (I'd not seen any prior to this). Of
That's probably it. Though not the first with a built-in pointer. As Doug
mentioned, GRiD had one, as did the Mac Portable (1989) and the Atari STacy
(year?). Not sure what year the Outbound came out but I'm pretty sure it
was pre-thinkpad (maybe '89ish?).
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Looks like I made a real splash with my first post since resubscribing! In
my defense, all I have to say is this: If don't really know the current
street value for an item and I want to get rid of it, the best thing to do
IS put it on auction and post to similar lists and newsgroups. I'm sorry if
I offended anyone. During my hiatus, I was spending alot of time on usenet,
a place where this is done all the time. Guess I got a little brainwashed.
If it's gonna cause a problem, I won't let it happen again.
At 01:37 PM 6/10/98 EDT, SUPRDAVE(a)aol.com wrote:
>This is NOT a flame, but i'm just wondering the point of posting items that
>have been put up for sale on ebay, et al. all that means is every item will
>already be overbid on for an insane price. it is my opinion that if anything
>is announced as being for sale, the subscribers to this group should get
first
>crack.
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>A (very!) non-portable Mac "Clone" that I haven't seen mentioned yet is the
>Dash '030 from (iirc) 68000 systems. It's an actual Mac II-type
>motherboard in a huge server case. Ports were accessable on the top, and
>has about 6 or 7 drive bays up front. The front covers the drives and can
>be locked closed. Huge P/S, with filter on the back. Very serious
>systems. I've got two, actually.
Does "Mac II-type motherboard" mean its a genuine Apple motherboard, or
do you just mean its similiar to the Mac II motherboards?
Tom Owad
Is this device better than a mouse, in your opinion? Is it an ADB
device?
>At 12:25 PM 6/8/98 -0700, you wrote:
>>>Outbound
>>
>>Anybody have any of these? Any experience with them. I would love
some
>>further information.
>
>I have an Outbound. Fantastic machine. The pointing device alone is
worth
>getting the computer for. (Imagine a pencil tucked up against the
bottom
>edge of your keyboard. Roll it towards the screen and away to move the
>cursor up and down. Slide it left and right to move the cursor left
and
>right. Wonderful!) Unfortunately, mine has a problem with the screen;
if
>anyone has any spare parts, or knows anything about them, I'd love to
hear
>from you! (I'd really like to put this machine to use!)
>
>
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After reading Doug's message, I checked at my favorite trift store and
found a pile of manuals for a Wang PC. NOT Personal Computer but
Professional computer! The manuals seem to be sort of generic to all Wang
PCs. None of the manuals mentioned a model number of the computers
themselves but they did list the model numbers of the various options and
accessories.
I also found three Wang computers. They were under a pile of stuff so I
didn't get a good luck at them and I don't know if they were Wang PCs or a
different model but they looked like the PCs. Two looked like 8 slot
electronics units (that's what Wang calls them) and the other looked like a
5 slot unit.
Joe
At 02:18 PM 6/9/98 -0400, you wrote:
>
>Greetings,
>
>I saw a very large Wang box at a thrift store yesterday, I *think* the
>little sticker on it said "PC-002". I didn't see the keyboard, but I
>didn't look.
>
>The machine was really big, I think about twice the height of an old
>IBM-PC and about the same width. It was longer than it was wide.
>
>It had two full-height 5.25" floppy drives.
>
>>From the back it looked like it had several large horizontally-mounted
>cards inside, including one with two coaxial cable connectors and another
>with two female DIN connectors.
>
>I would have paid close attention to it had my arms not already been full.
>
>I didn't see the keyboard, but it was probably stacked up in the pile with
>all the normal PC crap keyboards.
>
>If I am to go back for it, I'll have to take the car as I doubt I'd be
>able to survive the walk to the bus while trying to carry that thing.
>
>Does anyone know what this thing is?
>
>
>Doug Spence
>ds_spenc(a)alcor.concordia.ca
>http://alcor.concordia.ca/~ds_spenc/
>
>
><word. I do not know if ODS-1 (RSX FILES-11) or the RSTS filesystems
><precede RT-11, but if I had to guess, I would say yes. IIRC, both use
><9.3.
>
>Did you mean 8.3? RT-11, RSTS and RSX-11 were 8.3 as was early VMS and
>unice.
I can't speak for RSTS and RSX-11, but I _know_ early VMS was 9.3; that is,
as long as VMS 3.4 is counted as early. RT-11 is 6.3; since you can cram
three characters into a word using Radix-50, a filename in RT-11 takes three
words.
Roger Ivie
ivie(a)cc.usu.edu
<word. I do not know if ODS-1 (RSX FILES-11) or the RSTS filesystems
<precede RT-11, but if I had to guess, I would say yes. IIRC, both use
<9.3.
Did you mean 8.3? RT-11, RSTS and RSX-11 were 8.3 as was early VMS and
unice.
Allison
