Guys:
I would address this to Ward directly, rather than to the list, but
our jerked-around mail system now removes the original senders
address. My apologies.
Ward:
Please e-mail me at: jeff.kaneko(a)ifrsys.com
There's something I'd like to discuss with you.
Thanks!
Jeff
We now return you to our regularly scheduled programme . . . .
At 12:47 AM 6/11/98 +0100, you wrote:
>That makes me wonder if they're going to attempt to rewrite history
>_again_... After all the Altair (it was the Altair, wasn't it) was hardly
Well, possibly, but the optimist in me says that maybe, just maybe, they'll
do it right, what with all that money they have laying around.... (Pardon
me, while I go kill said optimist. Feel free to continue laughing...)
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At 11:18 PM 6/10/98 +0000, you wrote:
>> >Dash '030 from (iirc) 68000 systems. It's an actual Mac II-type
>
>Apparently very popular (at one time, at least) with prepress houses.
Yes; one of mine came from a company called Landor Associates that was
responsible for recent Olympic Logos, Radio Shack's latest logo, Most (if
not all) of McDonald's packaging and branding, and a lot of Microsoft's
packaging/branding.
Great company, and good at what they do. (In addition to the Dash, they
had an outbound running around, but I don't know what happened to it.)
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At 02:48 PM 6/10/98 PDT, you wrote:
>Is this device better than a mouse, in your opinion? Is it an ADB
>device?
Is it better than a mouse? Is Ben & Jerry's Phish Food better than a
rotten banana? Is a Jaguar XK8 better than totalled Ford Aspire? Yes,
it's better.
Unfortunately, it's an integral part of the Outbound case, and therefore
not applicable to any other computer.
The outbound, if you're unfamiliar with it, is a Mac Clone laptop. There
are two models; mine sports a 68030, and uses a standard 2.5" IDE laptop
hard drive. Great machine. (If my screen wasn't ferschimmled I'd be using
it all the time.)
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At 02:48 PM 6/10/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Actually, the ad was for auctions at Haggle Online, http://www.haggle.com.
(nudge, nudge, wink, wink, say no more, say no more...) 8^)
For them not familiar with it, Haggle is kinda like ebay, though less
crowded. More importantly, it is also building an online museum of classic
computers. This is probably due to our own Doug Salot somehow being
involved in the whole mess...
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At 01:37 PM 6/10/98 EDT, you wrote:
>This is NOT a flame, but i'm just wondering the point of posting items that
>have been put up for sale on ebay, et al. all that means is every item will
The point is that you thereby inform a whole passel of people that the
items are for sale, including many who might not otherwise know. Gets the
seller potentially higher prices. And, someone here might find out about
something they really want. On the other hand, it may annoy some folks
here.
btw, it seems to me that prices on Haggle are not quite as wild as on ebay.
(Though I do check ebay regularly too.)
>is announced as being for sale, the subscribers to this group should get
>first crack.
Well, tyhat would be nice, but the collective "we" can't force anyone to do
anything. This has come up before, and the consensus seems to be that it's
a tough decision whether to offer things here (and be a hero) or on ebay
(and get rich.)
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At 08:26 PM 6/10/98 -0500, you wrote:
>
>Or the $1500 Lisa 2? That one went from $300 to $1500 in one bid, but it
>only takes one sucker, err, collector.
The auction sites are just like any other web site: you don't
know what's really happening, such as if the transaction actually
takes place at that price. Certainly the auction sites do not
list their failure and debt-collection rates.
I think the auction offers and supposed final bids are interesting
to hear - they're at least as interesting as the brag-of-the-week
>from those lucky Silicon Valley and Redmond thrift-store cruisers
who appear to be filling a U-Haul for $50 every weekend.
On Wed, 10 Jun 1998, Ward Donald Griffiths III wrote:
> Hell, I'd rather fix rams with my teeth the way the old Basque herders
> used to than a Packard-Bell computer.
At least us sheep ranchers understand your jokes.
- John
But there's a difference between a Z-80 running a text-mode interface,
and an 8088 running a GUI. Also, remember that Bill Gates didn't know
very much about operating systems, as opposed to languages. MS Windows
is the only OS MS programmed ground up, something they only started
after the A1000. And, I've never seen Windows multitask under 8MB in the
way the Amiga or a UNIXoid computer can.
>> and Gates replied that multitasking really wasn't possible in
>> anything under 8 megs of ram. To which the same reporter replied,
>>"But
>> doesn't
>> your own Amiga Basic multitask nicely on a 512k Amiga?"
>>
>> A question which Gates promptly ignored and moved on.........
>
>Especially since the TRS-80 Model 16, with the Xenix OS partly done
>by Microsoft, multitasked (and multiusered) quite nicely even with
>only 256K of RAM. Not to mention the Color Computer running OS-9 in
>64K.
>--
>Ward Griffiths
>They say that politics makes strange bedfellows.
>Of course, the main reason they cuddle up is to screw somebody else.
> Michael Flynn, _Rogue Star_
>
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At 10:13 PM 6/10/98 -0400, Ward Donald Griffiths III wrote:
>Hell, I'd rather fix rams with my teeth the way the old Basque herders
>used to than a Packard-Bell computer.
You mean there's a difference? :)
Packard Bell: Today's headache, tomorrow's obscure collectible. Hey, you
never know: People might start collecting only the badly designed systems.
It could happen.
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On Jun 11, 4:20, Ward Donald Griffiths III wrote:
> Unix started with a 14-char filename limit (and allowed [still does]
> characters in filenames tricky to get at from the shell).
I still have two disks with filenames which include DEL and NUL characters.
> I always figured if you couldn't describe
> what a file was for in 14 characters, you should be in a different
> profession. The current fashion for doing things like including
> things like extended version numbers in filenames does not change my
> opinion.
Nor mine :-)
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Pete Peter Turnbull
Dept. of Computer Science
University of York
