Ten-plus years ago, I was given an opportunity to scrap a Burroughs
machine of some kind. I don't think it was still running, and it
was the size of a small refrigerator. I pulled the interesting
chips and disassembled the open-air hard disk unit. It was covered in
a clear sheet plastic frame, sealed with snaps or Velcro, and
the 14" platters spun in the air like a turntable. I still have
the two platters on the wall.
- John
Jefferson Computer Museum <http://www.threedee.com/jcm>
In a message dated 98-04-10 02:14:22 EDT, you write:
<< At 06:29 PM 4/8/98 -0400, you wrote:
>> That might depend on whether you're selling or buying, Kai :-).
A *very* valid comment.
>> More seriously, has anyone here actually conducted a transaction
>> through Ebay? Did the highest bidder actually make payment in
>> a timely manner, if you were selling? >>
just had a friend of mine email me to tell me he saw a mac128 go for $330 on
ebay. idiots overbid themselves. ebay is a good indicator of old computer
prices? i think not!
On 1998-04-08 classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu said to lisard(a)zetnet.co.uk
:You might if you had been had by someone in this list. If the man
:is a con, I think I am doing a public service here trying to stop
:him to strike again with somebody else.
the email below was private. why did you post a public response? that is
a breach of netiquette - which makes you look every bit as clueless as
cord intimated.
we'll ring you to complain in future.
everyone else: apologies, but we felt we should point this out.
:enrico
:lisard@zetnet.co.uk wrote:
:> On 1998-04-07 classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu said to lisard@zetnet.
:>co.uk :Warning! You might get something different from what
:>you have :bidded for. I did.
:> keep your bitching private. nobody else gives a toss.
:> --
:> Communa (together) we remember... we'll see you
:>falling you know soft spoken changes nothing to sing
:within her...
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At 06:29 PM 4/8/98 -0400, you wrote:
>> That might depend on whether you're selling or buying, Kai :-).
A *very* valid comment.
>> More seriously, has anyone here actually conducted a transaction
>> through Ebay? Did the highest bidder actually make payment in
>> a timely manner, if you were selling?
I have both bought and sold (mostly bought, though) through eBay. Mostly
Classic Computers, Donald Duck stuff, and Miniature Land Rovers. Had one
problem once, when the guy ignored me for a while, then eventually claimed
to have previously sold the stuff I bid on. Never had a problem with a
payment.
Generally, stuff is well packaged, though one time, I bought a TI99/4A in
the original box, and it arrived -- in the original box, covered with duct
tape. I was heartbroken. I explained to the guy that I had been
interested in the box as much as the computer, and he offered to refund my
money. (I didn't take him up on the offer, just wanted to prevent it from
happening to someone else.)
For comparison, I once ordered a Donald Duck nutcracker (new) from the
Disney catalog. The 6"x6"x12" nutcracker box came in a 2'x1'x3' box, with
a few sheets of tissue paper, neatly folded on the bottom of the box. I
was *not* happy.
The feedback system on ebay seems to work pretty well, I think. I feel
pretty comfortable buying and selling there.
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Ive had this posted in the past but these are really getting in my way:
*Tektronix 7612D programmable digitizer (scope w/o a screen) with two
7A16A plugins. No manuals or cables but it appears to be in terrific
shape otherwise. $150 plus shipping or will consider trades.
*Kontron KLA64 64 channel logic analyser - 2 complete units, cables,
manuals, covers, software, etc. They also have an optional unit
installed internally. Includes Axiom video printer. All items go as a
package - $325 plus shipping. Sorry no trades and will not separate.
Total weight about 160 lbs for everything.
Can email detailed info to those interested. I bought these in an
auction lot and the above pricing is what I have into them. I bought the
auction lot to primarily obtain a digital oscilloscope for my shop but
the above items are R&D oriented and realy have no use in my repair
shop. Both are still supported by repair, calibration and parts outfits
as well as the manufacturers. I have sources for the manual for the Tek
7612D and plugins as well so you don't need to be concerrned that you'll
not be able to work it without a manual. The manuals for the Kontrons is
very detailed and is from setup and use to parts and adjustment.
I'm trying to be as discrete as possible about posting these and I'm
sure some people are tired of seeing it come back up but there are new
people to the list that may not know of them and possibly be interested.
Please reply direct to me, not to the list.
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RB Custom Services / Rt. 1 Box 62E / Harned, KY USA 40144
Phone: (502) 756-1749 Data/Fax:(502) 756-6991
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* Parts/Service/Upgrades and more for MOST Computers*
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< Cool. I have one of these (a uVAX2000) but the harddrive is going on i
<(I think something is loose inside and rattling around).
Maybe the power cord to the disk?
<> They can take RX33(1.2mb)
<> floppy and or any MFM drive like RD31(20mb st225), RD32(40mb st251),
<> RD52(quantum D540 31mb), RD53 (micropolus1325 71mb) or RD54(maxtor 2990
<> 159mb).
<
< I have seveal MFM drives here, but what are the Seagate equivilents to
<RD line? I have an ST-4051, ST-251, ST-277r-1, ST-4038 and one unknown o
<(made by Mitsubishi, has at least 4 heads and 904 cylinders and the only
<marking I see is TKS 56704).
The st251 is an rd32. The rest I don't know.
It can format drives too! the command is test70.
< Finding information about the Seagates isn't hard (as Seagate has all t
<information on their web site) but I'm curious as to the equivilents to t
<RD line.
I listed the rd#, the maufacturer and the model.
< Do you know offhand if that comes with a development system (say, a C
<compiler? Or even just headers?)
VMS is fairly loaded, editors, MACRO32, BASIC, DCL(the command line
language is as complex as some of the 8bit basics!), various language
libraries (C, Fortran, Macro). DECwindows is part of the OS as is
DECnet. Also DECwindows server, latserver and software to manage
the system, accounts, networks.
VMS as supplied is a complete working OS and environment and anything but
minimal in the pieces supplied. I've done entire network projects using
nothing but DCL scripts!
The first software to download for VMS is CMUip (I think the cdrom has it)
so that IP connections can managed). I'm sure there are suitable C
compilers in the free/shareware domain.
Most people have little knowledge of what VMS is. It's a multiuser,
multitasking OS designed for robust applications with high security.
What isn't mentioned is it's also a user enviornment, development
system and a aplications platform all rolled into one. It also has
the advantage of 20 years of development history with V7.1 being current
but any version between 5.4 and 6.1 covered under the hobby license. I
run 5.4 and 5.5 as it's as good as any and they are all good.
An advantage for the non unix user is DCL is like DOS command lines to
the user and most of the basic facilities are similar though richer
featured.
Allison
In a message dated 4/8/98 9:48:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time, marvin(a)rain.org
writes:
<< Joe wrote:
> The one thing that does piss me off is when people sell stuff on one of
> the high cost services like E-bay but place ads for it here. But I must
> admit that I've done it too.
I would disagree with this as part of the continuing education in any
collectable field is having some idea of what the market value is, and ebay
certainly provides some guidance in that regard! >>
Well, i'd be willing to argue that. i dont think i would consider ebay to set
current market prices for anything. i have a friend who uses it, and he said
it's great for the seller if one is selling anything quasi-rare or semi-
unusual as the manic bidders want to outdo themselves and drive the prices way
up. he said i should sell my apple //c lcd screen on ebay as he said one went
for almost $400. besides, i have seen prices there fluctuate wildly anyway.
david
> I'd like to find (or build) CP/M for my only S-100 box (you know, the one
> with the Ithaca Audio CPU card). I have a BASIC boot disk for the
> machine, and I believe I can read/write the 5.25" floppy from my PC
> (via 22disk), but I have no idea what's involved in finding or building a
> CBIOS for this box and where the boot sector on the floppy is.
The documentation for CP/M 2.2 is online at the unofficial CP/M web site.
See http://cdl.uta.edu/cpm/download/manuals/cpm22/index.html. You are
interested in Chapter 6 and most of the appendices.
Roger Ivie
ivie(a)cc.usu.edu
At 07:40 PM 4/9/98 -0500, you wrote:
>
>WIREHEAD'S CRAZY THOUGHT FOR THE DAY
>
>Using old 386 and 486 computers and their parallel ports to replace
>missing peripherals from true retrocomputing systems. Hmmm...
>
>I wonder if a 386, for example, with a properly programmed parallel port
>could emulate...say...a disk drive with a particular interface that you
>can't find anymore.
>
>Interesting thought?
>
>Anthony Clifton - Wirehead
I'd bet you could do it pretty easily with a bare-bones Linux install (why
compile any more than you need to?). In that case you'd have access to
oodles and oodles of working source code for examples.
I'm still dreaming about xfacing an old IBM punched card reader with a PC
running Linux. If I can ever find one that's working and for which I can
scrounge CE docs.
--
David Wollmann |
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<(MicroVAX 2000). They are not CPU upgradable, but you can add expansion
<memory out to 16MB, an 8 port async serial board (thats the big DB
They max out at 14mb due to hardware mapping. As little as 4 meg is very
useable and 8mb or more makes a fine system.
<connector that doesn't go anywhere) and a sync serial port. Standard
The DB25 is a coms port with handshaking and modem controls.
Allison
