test-drb April 1998

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by adavie＠mad.scientist.com

I object to the use of the Classic Computer mailing list for advertising for-sale items on an ongoing basis for profit. I consider the use of this list in this way akin to dropping advertising leaflets in my mailbox, or ringing me up and asking if I want to buy insurance. Surely, the newsgroups and eBay, etc., are an appropriate place for regular sales? A mailing list dealing with the preservation of classic computers is not. Cheers A

26 years, 3 months

TRS-80 Model 4 (128k) for sale

by chemif＠mbox.queen.it

At 17:23 08/04/98 -0700, Jack wrote: >I learn something new almost every day on this list...Today I learned >that computers were actually made in Europe and not just in the U.S. >Now if someone would just explain why anyone would want to collect a >euro-computer? > Jack "tongue planted firmly in his US-centric cheek" Peacock Hmm,"The tongue goes where the tooth hurts" Riccardo ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ? Riccardo Romagnoli,collector of:CLASSIC COMPUTERS,TELETYPE UNITS,PHONES ? ? AND PHONECARDS I-47100 Forli'/Emilia-Romagna/Food Valley/ITALY ? ? Pager(DTMF PHONES)=+39/16888(hear msg.and BEEP then 5130274*YOUR TEL.No.* ? ? where*=asterisk key |4 help visit http://www.tim.it/tldrin_eg/tlde03.html ? ? e-mail=chemif(a)mbox.queen.it ? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

26 years, 3 months

Modifications (was Re: my objection to recent postings)

by fmc＠reanimators.org

Van Burnham <van(a)wired.com> wrote: > ps...Upon reading the thread regarding the justification in > maintaining "modifications" made to a 128K Mac, I was reminded of a > nightmare I witnessed at a vids auction. It appears someone had > decided that it would be considerably more "state-of-the-art" to play > something new instead of a slow-ass game called Computer Space...and > proceeded to destroy the original board and monitor casing in order to > convert the sleek fiberglass metalflake cabinet to play Pac-Man > instead. I don't see why defacing a classic Mac (or "Frankentosh" as > they say) should be regarded as any less horriffic. Am I totally off > here? Anyone? No, you're just mostly off. The 128K Mac in question was one that had been upgraded with contemporary modifications during its useful service life, with the intention of making it do its thing, only better. It wasn't defaced, it was enhanced, with things that were designed for just that purpose, by someone using it for its intended purpose. And at its core it's the same 128K Mac. Gutting a 128K Mac to fit an SE/30's works inside would be stretching this notion of "enhancement" a bit more than I'm comfortable with, because so far as I know Mac users didn't do that sort of thing and that sure isn't what SE/30 works were designed for. (But I'm not a Mac guy and maybe someone did do this back then.) And if I knew of someone planning to do something like what you describe to a Computer Space machine today, well...I think that stretches this notion past the point of fatigue. I'd certainly encourage him away from such a course of action. What would I have done in, say, 1982 though? I don't know, I might have even helped do it, though I really don't think I'd have seen any point to it even then. Now, that said, the goals of collectors don't necessarily have much to do with the goals of the computer's contemporary users. Original unmodified 128K Macs will probably be of more interest to some, because they were The First Macintoshes (available for public sale, anyway), and being first does have a certain cachet. And the fact that many of their original users felt the need for such upgrades has made unmodified 128K Macs that much rarer today. -Frank McConnell

26 years, 3 months

TRS-80 Model 4 (128k) for sale

by e.tedeschi＠ndirect.co.uk

A real gentle-man! enrico Sam Ismail wrote: > > On Tue, 7 Apr 1998, Enrico Tedeschi wrote: > > > You are demontrating AGAIN that you don't care about other people feelings and > > problems. You are NOT in charge of policing this mailgroup. If you don't want > > to see this sort messages anymore help me to fix my problem. > > I'm not going to help you do shit. This is YOUR problem. This is NOT the > problem of classiccmp! Therefore, DON'T POST YOUR PROBLEMS ON CLASSICCMP! > I don't post how much of an ass I think you are, so don't post your > personal crap either! And you'd better bet that when I do take over the > list, I'll make sure YOU are on the list of moderated members since you > have proven time and time again that you can't police yourself. So show > some restraint and respect and KEEP YOUR GARBAGE IN PRIVATE E-MAIL PLEASE! > > Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Don't blame me...I voted for Satan. > > Coming Soon...Vintage Computer Festival 2.0 > See http://www.siconic.com/vcf for details! -- ======================================================== Enrico Tedeschi, 54 Easthill Drive, Brighton BN41 2FD, UK Tel/fax(+01273) 701650 (24 hours) and 0498 692465 (mobile) please visit my website at: <http://www.brighton-uk.com> ========================================================

26 years, 3 months

my objection to recent postings

by peacock＠simconv.com

Charles A. Davis wrote: > It's also pertinent _what_ is being offered for sale, Complete and > operational systems, will probably do great on one of the 'aution' > sites. Random repair pieces, odd boards, documentation, weird It seems to me if the "for sale" was restricted to 10 years or older there would be no place for spam related "hot PII price list" stuff. I have never received a single spam price list listing a uVAX I, an IMSAI chassis, or a big price break on 16KB static RAM boards. Keep the For Sale mail, but how about labeling it with the "FS:" prefix in the subject so those who object can filter it out? I for one watch for the occasional odd S-100 card, where else am I going to see that kind of stuff? Jack Peacock

26 years, 3 months

my objection to recent postings

by adavie＠mad.scientist.com

Russ and list I admit to a bad mail day. The bickering between Enrico and Cord, was another area where TWICE I wrote a reply to the list and successfully staid my hand. I thought some were using the list as a profit making exercise, and I apologise for this error. I would still like to see prices kept private and simply "contact me if you're interested", but of course that is a matter of personal preference. I think we can close this thread, no? A

26 years, 3 months

Seriously off-topic, but worth sending... (FUNNY)

by DSEAGRAV＠toad.xkl.com

I'm supposed to be playing with Windows NT Server now... (BLEAH!) But the hardware guys are playing around, and they won't build my server. They have all the parts. So, I started scrounging around myslef... Found a 486DX4/100, 16 meg or RAM, etc... But a proper case was nowhere to be found! So I got me a cardboard box and some masking tape... :) I showed the result to our upstream admin, and we was laughing so hard we has almost crying... It's SERVER IN A BOX! (If you can call it that...) My boss says it's OK as long as I power it off when I leave, so it doesn't catch fire. -------

26 years, 3 months

Seriously off-topic, but worth sending... (FUNNY)

by Philip.Belben＠powertech.co.uk

>> I'm supposed to be playing with Windows NT Server now... (BLEAH!) > You GOT it, Seagraves. Seriously. > > In Yuk factor, this NT really take the cake. Took my boss months to > learn and setup a NT server and 1,000's of reboots, each changes even > one requires reboot. And a one dead PC too and few cards blown > along with few boards that NT hates! I think I might able master > Linux with good docs in very significent shorter time with more > changes between fewer reboots. We're being migrated to Windows Not Tolerable tomorrow, here at Power Tech. Wish me luck, or pray for me to any god you think might answer... Philip. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Philip Belben <><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Bloedem Volke unverstaendlich treiben wir des Lebens Spiel. Grade das, was unabwendlich fruchtet unserm Spott als Ziel. Magst es Kinder-Rache nennen an des Daseins tiefem Ernst; Wirst das Leben besser kennen, wenn du uns verstehen lernst. Poem by Christian Morgenstern - Message by Philip.Belben(a)powertech.co.uk PS I like the server in a box! Keep up the good work! P.

26 years, 3 months

S/36 Books and equipment FS

by rhblake＠bbtel.com

I have a GOB of manuals with software in 5.25" (and one 3.5") disks for an IBM System 36. Here's a list of what's involved... (D) denotes disks (N) notebook/looseleaf (W) wirebound (V) Vinyl Folder Small format books: 1) PC Support/36 technical reference, IBM SC21-9097-3 (N) 2) IBM System/36 Procedures and Commands Summary SC21-9024-2 (W) SC21-9024-5 (W) 3) Getting Started with System/36 PC, SC21-9267-0 by SRA (D) (V) Large format books: 1) 5364 System Unit Maint Info, System/36, SY31-9020-1 & 9027-0 (D) (N) 2) Preparing to Install Your System 5364, IBM S/36 PC, SC21-9084-0 (D) (N) Setting Up Your Computer 5364, IBM S/36 PC, SA21-9505-0 Guide To Optional Equipment 5364, IBM S/36 PC, GX21-9817-1 3) Book Set - IBM S/36 PC System Support Prgramming, Configuration & Sort ZC21-9148 (N) 4) Book Set - IBM S/36 PC Communications Features, Feature 6047, ZC21-9155 (N) (D) 5) Book Set - IBM S/36 PC System Support Programming, 5727-SS6 Messages, ZC21-9149 (N) 6) Book Set - IBM S/36 PC System Support Programming, 5727-SS6, Operating Security, ZC21-9147 (N) 7) Book Set - IBM S/36 PC Utilities, 5727-UT6, SDA/SEU/DFU, ZC21-9197 (N) 8) Book Set - IBM S/36 PC Utilities, 5727-UT6, WSU/Messages, ZC21-9198 9) Disk Set - IBM S/36 PC System Support Programming, 5727-SS6, Diskettes, ZC21-9150 (N)(D) (40 +) ALSO included: AST 5251/11 - IBM PC to System 34/36/38 Computer Communications outfit. New, unused, in the box. Includes PC and S/34/36/38 5.25 and 8" disks as well as the cable and interface unit for the PC. So there it is....The total weight of all the binders, pages, disks, disk holders, etc is roughly 50 lbs. The 5251/11 enhanced S34/36/38 set which is another 10 lbs. Can be packed in separate cartons or in one 60 lb box. One box is cheaper to ship, of course. How much? $100 plus shipping for ALL the books and 5251/11 outfit plus shipping. I've had a few serious inquiries but no definitive answer back and I need the space. I paid $90 for this stuff myself so I'm making a few bucks basically to cover my gas in running it to the shipping point and my material in packing them. I don't mind getting this stuff to redistribute to people that need it as I know this stuff is getting hard to find. Otherwise you know where it would go. First one to contact me and actually send a money order (after contact) gets them. I'll need your zip code to figure shipping fees when you contact me. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Russ Blakeman RB Custom Services / Rt. 1 Box 62E / Harned, KY USA 40144 Phone: (502) 756-1749 Data/Fax:(502) 756-6991 Email: rhblake(a)bbtel.com or rhblake(a)bigfoot.com Website: http://members.tripod.com/~RHBLAKE/ ICQ # 1714857 * Parts/Service/Upgrades and more for MOST Computers* --------------------------------------------------------------------

26 years, 3 months

Diamond D5 Wordprocessor

by JRichardson＠softwright.co.uk

Hi All, Has anyone had any experience with a Diamond D5 wordprocessor? Has anyone even *heard* of such a beast? One was donated to me a while ago after standing unused in a garage for a few years - apparently it was working when it went into store. However, nowadays if I put the system disk into the drive it seeks the heads, spins a couple of times, then all goes silent. There's no cursor or anything on the monitor, but having never seen the machine working myself I don't know if it should display anything at all before a successful boot completes. Basically I'm after more information before I can seriously start thinking about getting this thing going. Obviously I don't even know if the system disks are still good, let alone what sort of hardware faults exist inside... thanks for *any* help with this thing!! cheers Jules

26 years, 3 months

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test-drb April 1998