I have just bought an almost-new condition fully kitted out Dick Smith
System 80 - this was an Australian-sold clone of the TRS-80.
The system consists of a console with included tape player, an S-100
expansion box and two 200K 5.25" floppy drives. The receipt dated September
1982 was in one of the boxes (all original packing) along with all
connectors. The expansion box contains an extra 32K RAM (total 48K) and
connecting cables to the main system, the two drives (each one a separate
stock item, one "Disk 0" and the other "Disk 1") and to a Centronics
printer.
Price asked in a charity shop was $10 each for the two big boxes and $5 each
for the two drives. Not too bad, and you can't argue too much when the money
is going to a good cause! But absolutely no documentation.
The basic system works OK. What I want to know is how to connect up the
expansion box to the main box and the drives. The connecting cables are
standard flat multi-strand cable with the Pin 1 side marked in red. But
which is Pin 1 at the connection blocks? I don't want to kill this
beautifully clean unit by connecting it up backwards! If someone could tell
me which end of each of the connection blocks on the back of the console, on
the S-100 box and on the disk drives is the Pin 1 end, I would be grateful.
Phil
You might if you had been had by someone in this list. If the man is a con, I
think I am doing a public service here trying to stop him to strike again with
somebody else.
Thank you
enrico
lisard(a)zetnet.co.uk wrote:
>
> On 1998-04-07 classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu said to lisard(a)zetnet.co.uk
> :Warning! You might get something different from what you have
> :bidded for. I did.
>
> keep your bitching private. nobody else gives a toss.
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This came off a web classifieds page:
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IBM SYSTEM/36 MODEL 5360, $100/OBO, Used
Description
MIDRANGE COMPUTER FULLY FUNCTIONAL WITH 5225 MODEL 2
PRINTER
For sale by private party
(718) 863-9651
fma
bronx, New York 10462
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OK, I'm stumped. What are the switch setting for the 4-switch DIP switch
on the back of a RRD-40 drive? I managed to come up with a working
configuration, but how safe is SCSI address 0 under VMS? I know the
Hobbyist CD at least boots through the hardware search in Standalone backup
(didn't have time to install tonite). Also what's the 4th switch for?
Thanks,
Zane
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I would note that I have already claimed these items, about a week ago, but
the Olivetti things are still available. Thanks, Sam, for the heads-up.
Cheers
A
-----Original Message-----
From: Sam Ismail <dastar(a)wco.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Wednesday, April 08, 1998 3:55 PM
Subject: (fwd) Obsolete computers looking for a home! (fwd)
>
>For you blokes down under.
>
>
>Plus, I have a number of Olivetti M24, M28, & M280 systems
>to get rid off, same deal.
For you blokes down under.
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: R.Alphey(a)forestry.unimelb.edu.au (Russell J. Alphey)
Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm,aus.computers
Subject: Obsolete computers looking for a home!
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 05:34:46 GMT
Organization: School of Forestry, University of Melbourne
It's time to clean up the spare room...
These computers are available, free to a good home. Note
that they are all in Melbourne, Australia. Shipping at
new owner's cost! :)
1. Labtam CP/M system, with 8086 processor board add-in.
Single 8" drive, with built-in monitor.
2. Micromation multiuser CP/M system. Has 4 processor boards,
plus serial terminals. 20 Mb hard drive, dual 8" drives, QIC-24
tape unit.
3. 2* ??? CP/M systems, monitors have WOODEN sides! Come with
processor unit, plus 2 * DISCUS 8" drives.
All systems come with boot disks.
Plus, I have a number of Olivetti M24, M28, & M280 systems
to get rid off, same deal.
Contact me by email to arrange something. I'm not going to
wait too long before "dumping" these machines...
R.
R.Alphey(a)forestry.unimelb.edu.au
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At 01:04 AM 4/7/98 -0500, you wrote:
>I've held onto machines that I would've happily given away except for the
>time involved to go through the stuff on the hard disk and clean it up.
[...]
>What the world needs is a painless one button backup-and-clean program.
Or a belief that they can turn the machine over to a reputable
collector/museum who will do it for them.
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Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad
roger(a)sinasohn.com that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California http://www.sinasohn.com/
At 01:25 AM 4/7/98 -0500, you wrote:
>> Except, that people may feel it's easier (and/or safer) to just destroy the
>> machine than it is to try and make sure no one can read their data. What
>
>It's rarely done, most people aren't that superstitious of electronic
machines.
Perhaps not in the past, but now that the average village idiot is using
quicken and tax programs... They may not have used Dad's imsai, but they
don't know that his old tax returns aren't in that old box.
>> I agree that people should be responsible for their own data, but I also
>> feel that we, as collectors, need to hold ourselves to a higher standard,
>> so that people will feel comfortable giving us their old machines.
>
>If they actually gave us the machines. Most times they're swapped or sold
cheaply.
Whether or not they give them for free or for $, they have to feel
comfortable doing it, or they won't do it.
>Bad similarity...no one is paying you for confidentiality.
Okay, surely you know someone to whom you don't tell anything personal
because you know it'll be all over the office/neighborhood/local news
within the hour. If people don't believe they can turn over their
computers without having to worry about their tax returns showing up on the
internet, they won't do it.
>> Most of the people here probably know how to wipe a hard drive so it can't
>> be read. (My best guess is a low-level format, then fill it with worthless
>> data? Good thing I have nothing to hide!) But the average AOL user
>> doesn't. When Grandpa passes on, you don't want the grandkids trashing all
>And many have had to use level 3 read/write data destruction if they've
worked for
>the government. If the goverment is required to insure a clean machine to the
>point of even installing a new hard disk prior to public sale, why should the
>average Joe be protected in his or her sloppy handling of their private
matters.
>If you get right down to it they risk public viewing just by installing
anything
>on the hard disk and connecting to the net.
I'm not advocating responsibility for the user's sake. If you care about
the neighbors seeing you nekkid, pull down the damn shades. The reason I
advocate it is because I don't want my neighbors boarding up their windows
because they don't know if pulling down the shades is enough.
I don't want people trashing significant machines because they heard about
someone who knew someone who had a friend who heard about someone who gave
a computer to a collector, and then those quickcam pics of the wife au
naturel (that he thought he deleted) ended up on the 'net. Whether or not
its true, and whether or not someone has pics like that, doesn't matter.
The technoidiots will trash machines rather than take any risks.
Don't believe me? Ever heard of the Good Times virus?
>Not more of the one, but a picture or two of each machine. I realize
you're just
>working on the site but a picture really makes the site interesting to
those not
>familiar with the machines. A prefect example is the dual drive on a
Rainbow. How
>many people can even grasp the thought of putting a floppy in right way in
one
>slot, upside down in the other?
I'm working on that. I've got 6 rolls of film to go to Price Club this
week. Then I have to scan them, edit/crop/resize them, build a list of the
pics (with dimensions and captions), come up with some snappy text, look
for some links, and dig up the specs of the machine so I can build the web
page. Whew. Don't worry, I'll get there. 8^)
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roger(a)sinasohn.com that none but madmen know."
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San Francisco, California http://www.sinasohn.com/
>qty. 1 - Compaq Deskpro 386/20e - $20.00
>
>qty. 1 - Compaq Deskpro 433i - $30.00
OK... are either of these spoken for? Do you know the stats for these? How
much RAM, HDD (if any) space, disk drives, etc, and does that include a
monitor? (And, if you can find it, what is the video card, etc.)
Thanks,
Tim D. Hotze
<Well, I'm just thinking odd thoughts right now(specifically about
<converting a CB radio I have to the 10m amateur band), but if you can
If you need a hand I can help with that.
<figure out all the output voltages that the computer uses, than it
<shouldn't be too hard to either build several power supplies to handle th
<large amounts of power it needs, or perhaps re-wind the main power
<transformers(or just replace them with somethign that has the same output
<Which brings me to another thought, what IS the output voltage of the pow
<supply/transformer(s)? And of course, if the hard(and floppy) drive motor
<need 220v, you can also look for replacement motors that run on 110v.
<That's what I'm going to need to do for my Series/1.
Not that trivial as the system has a fair amount of pwer sequencing and
power good logic tied to the front panel and power system. besides where
to you find a 110Vac to 5V@ 30+amps floating around. That and any fans
and motors that may use 220v. THere is a lack of data on that and no way
to power it to determine if thats is the case.
Allison
