>Also, if anyone wants one of these things, $10 plus shipping. The
>condition
>is unknown since I haven't fired them up ... and they don't include
>keyboards :).
Do you know how much shipping will be?
I am getting my PDP-11/34 and my RK05 disk drives and packs tommorrow, and I have a few questions.They have have been in storage for years, and, although they have been kept dry, they are probably dusty. Can anyone tell me how to clean the drives and the disk packs before I use them?
Thanks,
Owen
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> From: Ward D. Griffiths III <gram(a)cnct.com>
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
> Subject: Re: Museums
> Date: Thursday, March 25, 1999 1:14
> (The FCC stepped in because of complaints
> from the close neighbors of folks running TRS-80 Model Ones (or Apple IIs
> or Commodore Pets or S-100 boxen) on the other side of an unshielded wall
> from a television with rabbit ear antenna in apartment buildings).
Our Spectrum Management Agency (or whatever it's called this week) has a
less enduser friendly attitude towards dipsticks in fringe areas that think
they should be able to watch marginal signals on "rabbit ears" inside a
substantial building.
It amounts to "Get an outdoor antenna." No outdoor antenna, no valid
grounds for complaint. There are no specific regs regarding emf emission
>from computers, they have put the onus on the RECEIVER manufacturer to
ensure adequate filtering & shielding from unwanted signals. The CB fad of
the 70's was a direct cause of this, after it was discovered that perfectly
functional CB's would drive certain televisions berserk because of stupid
choices of IF frequencies (Amongst other "They did WHAT!" type design, um,
features.)
If you have a properly installed external antenna (Yagi of some kind - cut
for the channels you are trying to receive) and proper coax feed into the
set, and you are STILL getting interference, only then will they look into
it.
This attitude has cured enormous numbers of problems.
Cheers
Geoff Roberts
Computer Systems Manager
Saint Marks College
Port Pirie, South Australia
geoffrob(a)stmarks.pp.catholic.edu.au
>
> No not yet. I'm going to try and get the parts and make a terminal
>cable tomorrow.
You have to be REAL careful which way the pins go on that. I had to
make two of 'em because the FAQ (where I found the pin assignments)
wasn't really clear which way you should be looking at it. (They ended up
being opposite)
>>If the root password is changed, your going to be screwed without system
>disks.
>
> I'm afraid you're right. That's the nature of Unix.
I was lucky on mine. All of them came from the factory with a preset password
which was *something* like "MPC" or something like that. Anyway, it should be
in the 3B2 FAQ.
Les
On Mon, 31 Aug 1998 19:23:11 +1, "Hans Franke" <franke(a)sbs.de> wrote:
>>does anybody know who has right now the rights for
>>the KIM-1 design and the respective ROM code?
>>Or more in general - is there any successor for
>>the Commodore Semiconductor divison ?
I did some research on this about 18 months ago in preparation for
contacting Commodore's bankruptcy counsel to see about purchasing the rights
to Commodore's 8-bit technology.
Even though I read the Chapter 11 reorganization plan and Chapter 7
liquidation motion, and my corporate counsel looked at the docs, it's really
hard to trace the chain of asset transfers, since I could not find a
specific list of those assets sold; only broad "all intellectual property"
language was used.
Collectively, Commodore's assets were sold to Escom (a German computer
manufacturer) for $14 million, $4 million of which realted to CBM and $10
million related to Commodore International Bahamas, Ltd. an affiliate of
CBM. The former CSG operation located at 950 Rittenhouse Road in Norristown
PA was purchased by GMT Microelectronics Corp., a company formed by former
CSG management in order to purchase the chip-making assets. The purchase
price was $4.3 million plus another $1 million to clear EPA liens. Assets
included the plant, equipment, other inventory items at that location. Last
year, I made a field trip to GMT and verified that they exist and are
operating out of the old CSG building.
The non-CSG assets stayed with Escom until they filed for receivership
(bankruptcy), in 1996. The assets were then sold to a Netherlands-based
company (Commodore NL??), who then sold the Amiga assets to Gateway (the
Holstein cow people). I don't think that anyone truly knows who owns the old
8-bit assets. Commodore NL sells PeeCee compatible machines under the
Commodore name, so I'd bank on Gateway owning them. If anyone on this list
knows anyone at Gateway, now may be the time to use the relationship.
Rich Cini/WUGNET <nospam_rcini(a)msn.com>
- ClubWin/CW7
- MCP Windows 95/Windows Networking
- Preserver of "classic" computers
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Doug Yowza <yowza(a)yowza.com> wrote:
> I've always wanted to know which machines have only a single instance
> represented on this list.
Hmm, any other HP9000 series 500 owners out there? (I have a 520, but
would like to hear from anyone who has any FOCUS-architecture 9000s.)
-Frank McConnell
The System/34 is on wheels. You do need to lock the hard drive heads
if there's a hard drive. To do this: slide a coin or screwdriver
into the little slots on the sides of the machine to open the panels.
Once you've found the hard drive, there is one variety I can help
you with. In this one, there is a metal box to the right of the
motor, spindle, etc. On one side of this box is a single screw
which you have to remove. This will allow you to swing the metal box
out of the way on its hinges. Once done, you will find a white
plastic wheel on the bottom edge of the drive. TUrn it all the way
in the direction that it will turn. THere should be directions on the
metal box as well.
> plus some manuals and tapes. Everything is supposed to be in working
> order- they upgraded and pulled the plug.
>
> 1. How much do these things weigh? The computer person there
estimated
> 2000 lb. for the 34, 1000 lb. for the 36, 700 lb. on the printers and
500
> lb. on the tape drives. Does that sound about right?
>
>The weights are about right. A good loading dock or a good forklift is
>necessary.
>
> 2. How possible is partial dismantling for transport? I didn't get
to
> tear into them to look. Loading access is fairly good in the building
> they are in, but unloading the 34 could be tricky. It would help if I
> could lighten them up.
>
>Genarally they are on wheels and are not taken apart to be moved. I
don't know
>the configuation of the 34. It is possible it could be composed of
several
>parts, but looking at the model number I think it is one piece.. I have
moved
>several of these systems and usually I rent a truck with a railgate
type of
>liftgate on it. These have a larger deck and ride flatter. Hopefully
the truck
>matches the dock. Use a flat dock plate. If there is a mismatch put a
piece of
>sheet steel over the dock plate to reate a smooth surface to roll on.
IBM made
>a little wire U shaped clip (bent at the bottom of the U) that is used
to keep
>the wheels from rolling. This can hold the unit still untill you can
tie it
>down. Remember there is lots of mass involved. It is best to tie off
each
>machine.
>
> 3. What needs to be done before moving? Head locking, moving or
removing
> anything, stuff like that.
>
>At each corner near the wheels are leveling screws. these need to be
raised
>with a crescent wrench, all the way up.
>
> Other less important stuff that I'm curious about:
>
> 4. What kind of interface does it have to the terminals?
>
> 5. What kind of power does it need? I'd assume 3 phase 220v.
>
>It could be single phase.
>
> 6. How much computing power is this? Compared to a VAX 11/750, say.
>
> 7. How will these things tolerate living in an unheated building over
> winter? I live in IL.
>
>They should survive if you don't try to power them up. They want to be
warm to
>run.
>
> Any other hints and tips would be greatly appreciated. I'd really
like to
> be able to move these machines without damage (to the machines or me).
>
> I went there today mainly as a recon mission, but they convinced me to
> take home a Wang word processing system. The server is a model
OIS-60X,
> and it has 4 terminals hooked up by RS336 (?) over coax (BNC
connectors),
> plus a laser printer. I think the printer weighs more than the
server.
> I got a bunch of cartridges for it, and some Canon copier cartridges
too,
> "because they're almost the same". I think not.
> >>
>If the Laser printer is an LDP-8 then the Canon Carts should work. The
engine
>is a Canon SX I think.
>
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< I've got cabling installed all over the place. I just need to work out
< what I want to use it to connect to what...
I have it beat... Beige RG58 for 10b2 and I am Da Wife!!! Actually
due to the construction of the house it's pretty easy to string wire
as needed to any room through the attic. I've had to do it for the TV
distribution.
My .02 is why did they go with BNC? Eithernet would do as well with
F connectors and they are cheaper and easier to affix. I've done my
share of connectors for RF in 25+ years from TNC, BNC, N, F, PL259s,
RCA and XLRs to name a few.
Allison
At 01:42 AM 10/30/98 -0500, you wrote:
>On Thu, 29 Oct 1998, Sam Ismail wrote:
>
>> As far as I know it was in the ROM on the motherboard.
>
>If you turn the machine on with no disk in the drive and no cartridge in
>either slot, you get ROM BASIC.
>
>There is also a more advanced BASIC on a cartridge. If you turn the
>machine on with the BASIC cartridge in a slot, you get cartridge BASIC.
>
>This is not a guess. This is how my PCjr behaves.
That's my understanding. There are three levels of BASIC for the Jr.
Level 1 is the ROM BASIC, level 2 is the disk BASIC and level 3 is the
cartridge BASIC. I was surprised that the cartridge BASIC was the most
complete but that's what the manual says.
Joe
