29 Oct
1998
29 Oct
'98
9:46 p.m.
< I've got cabling installed all over the place. I just need to work out
< what I want to use it to connect to what...
I have it beat... Beige RG58 for 10b2 and I am Da Wife!!! Actually
due to the construction of the house it's pretty easy to string wire
as needed to any room through the attic. I've had to do it for the TV
distribution.
My .02 is why did they go with BNC? Eithernet would do as well with
F connectors and they are cheaper and easier to affix. I've done my
share of connectors for RF in 25+ years from TNC, BNC, N, F, PL259s,
RCA and XLRs to name a few.
Allison
30 Oct
30 Oct
4:39 a.m.
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2 Nov
2 Nov
12:32 a.m.
One thing about the F connector is that their life in insertion cycles is
really bad. In a cable facility, that may be OK, but in a network, where
machines get moved alot, replacing flaked out Fs may get boring fast.
What, no Belling-Lee coaxial plugs (used for TV
aerials in the UK, and
thus very common over here) ? Or Pye coax plugs (screw-lock connectors,
not common at all, but I have a reasonable stock of them)? And of course
the SMA/SMB/SMC connectors.
And the truely peculiar General Radio 874 - one of the first coax plugs,
and hermaphroditic too!
William Donzelli
william(a)ans.net
30 Oct
30 Oct
5:08 a.m.
Allison wrote:
My .02 is why did they go with BNC? Eithernet would
do as well with
F connectors and they are cheaper and easier to affix. I've done my
share of connectors for RF in 25+ years from TNC, BNC, N, F, PL259s,
RCA and XLRs to name a few.
So that the connector would actually fit on the handle or bracket of
cards mounted on tight spacing. F connectors are huge.
5:27 a.m.
New subject: Help in MD needed
Is there a friendly collector in Maryland who'd be willing to help me pick
up and ship about 100 lbs of goodies to California? I'd compensate you
for your trouble, and offer to return the favor next time you hear of some
goodies available in computer-rich Silicon Valley.
Thanks,
Doug
6:45 a.m.
Allison J Parent wrote:
< I've got cabling installed all over the
place. I just need to work out
< what I want to use it to connect to what...
I have it beat... Beige RG58 for 10b2 and I am Da Wife!!! Actually
due to the construction of the house it's pretty easy to string wire
as needed to any room through the attic. I've had to do it for the TV
distribution.
I use stock 58 black in the walls to wall plates and beige for the exposed
cables from the plates to the machines. Bore a 3/4" hole in the top plate of
the wall in the attic, or in the bottom if from the basement (as mine is)
and you can pass even the BNC through. Make sure to put foam sealant around
the excess hole though to keep Mickey and his mouse friends from using the
hole for a new house, after you shove a bit of plain steel wool in the hole
(to hold the foam from going too far and keep te mice from chewing the foam
anyway)
My .02 is why did they go with BNC? Eithernet would
do as well with
F connectors and they are cheaper and easier to affix. I've done my
share of connectors for RF in 25+ years from TNC, BNC, N, F, PL259s,
RCA and XLRs to name a few.
Not sure if F connectors were around back then, or if they were very much in
use. Also it makes things much harder to disconnect. That's why they
probably didn't use PL259 and SO238 combos since every had their fill of
threaded connectors from the twinax days.
6:58 a.m.
My .02 is why
did they go with BNC? Eithernet would do as well with
F connectors and they are cheaper and easier to affix. I've done my
share of connectors for RF in 25+ years from TNC, BNC, N, F, PL259s,
RCA and XLRs to name a few.
Not sure if F connectors were around back then, or if they were very much in
use. Also it makes things much harder to disconnect. That's why they
probably didn't use PL259 and SO238 combos since every had their fill of
threaded connectors from the twinax days. 
10:52 a.m.
New subject: need some parts
Anyone know where I can get a mouse pad for a sun optical mouse? I'm
also looking for an external case to house some scsi seagate
hot-swappable drives that I got.
david
1:08 p.m.
New subject: need some parts
On Fri, 30 Oct 1998, david wrote:
Anyone know where I can get a mouse pad for a sun
optical mouse? I'm
also looking for an external case to house some scsi seagate
hot-swappable drives that I got.
Type-3 or type-4?
I have an extra type-3, if that's what you need, LMK...
Aaron C. Finney Systems Administrator WFI Incorporated
------------------------------------------------------------------------
"UNIX is an exponential algorithm with a seductively small constant."
--> Scott Draves
7 Nov
7 Nov
3:41 a.m.
New subject: need some parts
I know one that I need is a type-5, and the other I'm not sure. It's
boxier than the five and the buttons are the same color as the mouse.
The model number on the back is M4.
thanks,
david
Aaron Christopher Finney wrote:
On Fri, 30 Oct 1998, david wrote:
Anyone know where I can get a mouse pad for a sun
optical mouse? I'm
also looking for an external case to house some scsi seagate
hot-swappable drives that I got.
Type-3 or type-4?
I have an extra type-3, if that's what you need, LMK...
Aaron C. Finney Systems Administrator WFI Incorporated
------------------------------------------------------------------------
"UNIX is an exponential algorithm with a seductively small constant."
--> Scott Draves 
5:52 a.m.
New subject: Sun mouse pad Re: need some parts
Aren't all the optical mouse pads the same?
BTW I saw lots of trays, controllers and backplanes for Compaq hot
swappable drives on E-OverPay this morning. Search for "compaq".
Joe
At 11:41 AM 11/7/98 -0600, you wrote:
I know one that I need is a type-5, and the other
I'm not sure. It's
boxier than the five and the buttons are the same color as the mouse.
The model number on the back is M4.
thanks,
david
Aaron Christopher Finney wrote:
On Fri, 30 Oct 1998, david wrote:
Anyone know where I can get a mouse pad for a sun
optical mouse? I'm
also looking for an external case to house some scsi seagate
hot-swappable drives that I got.
Type-3 or type-4?
I have an extra type-3, if that's what you need, LMK...
Aaron C. Finney Systems Administrator WFI Incorporated
------------------------------------------------------------------------
"UNIX is an exponential algorithm with a seductively small constant."
--> Scott Draves
4:10 a.m.
New subject: Sun mouse pad Re: need some parts
On Sat, 7 Nov 1998, Joe wrote:
Aren't all the optical mouse pads the same?
No, the Sun type-3 mouse uses a much less dense grid. They're becoming
somewhat difficult to find; before I got one for my 3's, I first used a
laser-printed grid approximately the same spacing as the real pad. Trying
to use that was an exercise in patience.
It was either that or use a type-3 => type-4 adapter...but then this _is_
a *classic* computer collection, right?
Aaron C. Finney Systems Administrator WFI Incorporated
------------------------------------------------------------------------
"UNIX is an exponential algorithm with a seductively small constant."
--> Scott Draves
30 Oct
30 Oct
2:48 p.m.
New subject: need some parts
David,
Yeah, I can probably get you one. I have a friend that deals in used PC
stuff and he had/has some Mouse Systems optical mice and pads for the PC.
It's exactly the same mouse except with a different connector. It'll
probably be a week or two before I see him though.
Can't help with the case.
Joe
At 06:52 PM 10/30/98 -0600, you wrote:
Anyone know where I can get a mouse pad for a sun
optical mouse? I'm
also looking for an external case to house some scsi seagate
hot-swappable drives that I got.
david
7 Nov
7 Nov
3:42 a.m.
New subject: need some parts
Joe,
Please let me know what you find out from your friend. I know that one
is a type-5 mouse and the other I'm not sure about. The model number on
it is M4 and it is boxier than the type-5 mouse and it is also all one
color (buttons are the same color as the rest of the mouse).
Thanks,
david
Joe wrote:
David,
Yeah, I can probably get you one. I have a friend that deals in used PC
stuff and he had/has some Mouse Systems optical mice and pads for the PC.
It's exactly the same mouse except with a different connector. It'll
probably be a week or two before I see him though.
Can't help with the case.
Joe
At 06:52 PM 10/30/98 -0600, you wrote:
>Anyone know where I can get a mouse pad for a sun optical mouse? I'm
>also looking for an external case to house some scsi seagate
>hot-swappable drives that I got.
>
>david
>
3:52 a.m.
New subject: need some parts
david wrote:
<snip>
Sorry for posting those to the list. Just woke up and didn't re-read the
address lines.
david
5:55 a.m.
New subject: need some parts
OK I should see him next weekend. E-mail if you don't here from me by the
17th. You just need the mouse pad right?
Joe
At 11:42 AM 11/7/98 -0600, you wrote:
Joe,
Please let me know what you find out from your friend. I know that one
is a type-5 mouse and the other I'm not sure about. The model number on
it is M4 and it is boxier than the type-5 mouse and it is also all one
color (buttons are the same color as the rest of the mouse).
Thanks,
david
Joe wrote:
David,
Yeah, I can probably get you one. I have a friend that deals in used PC
stuff and he had/has some Mouse Systems optical mice and pads for the PC.
It's exactly the same mouse except with a different connector. It'll
probably be a week or two before I see him though.
Can't help with the case.
Joe
At 06:52 PM 10/30/98 -0600, you wrote:
>Anyone know where I can get a mouse pad for a sun optical mouse? I'm
>also looking for an external case to house some scsi seagate
>hot-swappable drives that I got.
>
>david
>
10:19 a.m.
New subject: need some parts
David,
I just noticed that a friend of mine has two Sun mice for sale on
E-OverPay. You might check and see if they look like what you need. Search
for the seller "photo(a)flash.net".net". I've dealt with the guy before and he
seems to be very reputable.
Joe
At 11:42 AM 11/7/98 -0600, you wrote:
Joe,
Please let me know what you find out from your friend. I know that one
is a type-5 mouse and the other I'm not sure about. The model number on
it is M4 and it is boxier than the type-5 mouse and it is also all one
color (buttons are the same color as the rest of the mouse).
Thanks,
david
Joe wrote:
David,
Yeah, I can probably get you one. I have a friend that deals in used PC
stuff and he had/has some Mouse Systems optical mice and pads for the PC.
It's exactly the same mouse except with a different connector. It'll
probably be a week or two before I see him though.
Can't help with the case.
Joe
At 06:52 PM 10/30/98 -0600, you wrote:
>Anyone know where I can get a mouse pad for a sun optical mouse? I'm
>also looking for an external case to house some scsi seagate
>hot-swappable drives that I got.
>
>david
>
1:47 p.m.
New subject: need some parts
Joe wrote:
David,
I just noticed that a friend of mine has two Sun mice for sale on
E-OverPay. You might check and see if they look like what you need. Search
for the seller "photo(a)flash.net".net". I've dealt with the guy before and he
seems to be very reputable.
Joe
What a small world, I've purchased some ethernet cards from him before.
:)
Thanks,
david
10:23 a.m.
New subject: need some parts
David,
PS I was just looking at the photo of the Sun mice on E-OverPay and
noticed that the label on it said "Mouse Systems". That reminded me of
something that I was told. One of the Sun Gurus told me that the Sun mice
were all made by Mouse Systems. If that's true then I doubt there'd me any
real difference in the mouse pads. At least not any functional differences.
Joe
At 11:42 AM 11/7/98 -0600, you wrote:
Joe,
Please let me know what you find out from your friend. I know that one
is a type-5 mouse and the other I'm not sure about. The model number on
it is M4 and it is boxier than the type-5 mouse and it is also all one
color (buttons are the same color as the rest of the mouse).
Thanks,
david
Joe wrote:
David,
Yeah, I can probably get you one. I have a friend that deals in used PC
stuff and he had/has some Mouse Systems optical mice and pads for the PC.
It's exactly the same mouse except with a different connector. It'll
probably be a week or two before I see him though.
Can't help with the case.
Joe
At 06:52 PM 10/30/98 -0600, you wrote:
>Anyone know where I can get a mouse pad for a sun optical mouse? I'm
>also looking for an external case to house some scsi seagate
>hot-swappable drives that I got.
>
>david
>
14 Nov
14 Nov
8:12 a.m.
New subject: need some parts
David,
I saw my friend today and picked up a PC Systems mouse and mouse pad for
you. (The PC mouse is a freebie) Send $6 and I'll get it out to you. ($3
for the mouse and pad and $3 for shipping.) Go ahead and send me your
address.
Joe
At 11:42 AM 11/7/98 -0600, you wrote:
Joe,
Please let me know what you find out from your friend. I know that one
is a type-5 mouse and the other I'm not sure about. The model number on
it is M4 and it is boxier than the type-5 mouse and it is also all one
color (buttons are the same color as the rest of the mouse).
Thanks,
david
Joe wrote:
David,
Yeah, I can probably get you one. I have a friend that deals in used PC
stuff and he had/has some Mouse Systems optical mice and pads for the PC.
It's exactly the same mouse except with a different connector. It'll
probably be a week or two before I see him though.
Can't help with the case.
Joe
At 06:52 PM 10/30/98 -0600, you wrote:
>Anyone know where I can get a mouse pad for a sun optical mouse? I'm
>also looking for an external case to house some scsi seagate
>hot-swappable drives that I got.
>
>david
>
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