actually, what i meant by the power-user comment was a person who is
not afraid to use a black-and-white command prompt if it can help
him/her do something. So, would a System/36 be good for me?
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Found this on Usenet from a fellow looking to clear out a System/36.
If you can help, please contact the original author directly. Best of
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From: rogick(a)roadrunner.com (Rick Byrne)
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Subject: Free IBM System/36 and Peripherals
Date: 9 Jan 1998 16:17:45 GMT
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My company needs the space and wants to give away an IBM System/36,
immediately! We need it out of here ASAP. Runs great! You haul.
Equipment
is located in Santa Fe, New Mexico. Call Rick at 505-982-5573 or email:
rogick(a)roadrunner.com
The equipment is as follows:
IBM System/36 Model 5360
IBM 4234 Dot Band Printer
6 IBM 3197 Color Workstations
Motorola Codex 2205 Modem
Dual Tape Backup by Fathom Technologies
About 6 5250 Emulation Cards (Short Length)
Everything works great!
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Bruce Lane, SysOp,
The Dragon's Cave BBS (Fido 1:343/272)
kyrrin2 {at} wiz<ards> d[o]t n=e=t
"...No matter how hard we may wish otherwise, our science can only describe
an object, event, or living creature, in our own human terms. It cannot possibly
define any of them!..."
Well, it's not going to affect all of us. I don't see how the government
can even claim to control the Internet. (Watch how I so cleverly tangle
classics into this. ;-) )
The Internet is like space: Something which is relatively (accesibly)
new. With Space, an agreement was made saying how it belonged to all
nations. (That's my understading)
Now, ever since the first TCP was made on a PDP-11/?? (sorry, memory's a
bit bad) The 'Net has been rapidly growing. It's truely international.
Here, we've got examples. People from US-Europe-Asia-Austrilia are
collecting classics. Now, is it legal for the (US) government to censor a
message say going from Tony-Riccardo (In Italy) I mean, it might not even
go through a US server. The Internet should be out of any government's
controls. We should just have an open standard. Governments should be able
to VOTE, on an equal basis of that with companies, etc. And then there are
those "encryption standards" last summer.... wiped out any chance of brain
activity in DC, outside of businesses....
Tim D. Hotze
-----Original Message-----
From: Ward Donald Griffiths III <gram(a)cnct.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Saturday, January 10, 1998 6:35 AM
Subject: Re: [Fwd: Fwd: Very Important, read, react, forward]
>Joe wrote:
>>
>> At 10:28 PM 1/8/98 -0600, you wrote:
>> >
>> >Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...two words...'topic' is one. 'off' is the other.
>> >
>> >=-)
>> >
>> >Anthony Clifton - Wirehead
>>
>> One more word ---- HOAX! Since when did the FCC start regulating the
>> telephone industry? Phone rates are set by the individual state public
>> service commisions not by the FCC.
>
>Sorry to say, it _does_ affect us (though yes, it's off-topic, but most
>of us communicate through Internet links). The FedGov has a couple of
>taxes on local phone bills for many years. And unless you've forgotten
>the CDA, they want control over the Net, with special tools to decode
>any messages someone wants private. Classic computers will not work
>with those standards, of course. Yes, even if you aren't libertarian.
>(I know damned well that there are one or two socialists on this list),
>we can be affected -- we can be forbidden to communicate. And there
>are at _least_ two attempts in progress to "reword" the CDA so that it
>takes away just as much freedom but doesn't hit the federal judicial
>hot buttons.
>
>Seems outrageous? The First Amendment covers everything. Presently.
>transmitting Nobel's (the guy who funded the Prize) formula for
>explosives is being watched by our "masters". Some of us collect
>computers that may have been in government hands before the general
>policy of "rip out the hard disk and hit it with the chainsaw" came
>into effect. Other hobbies have been crippled by the government --
>remember guns (my next love after computers as computers are my next
>love after science fiction)? Oh, it's platonic.
>--
>Ward Griffiths
>Dylan: How many years must some people exist,
> before they're allowed to be free?
>WDG3rd: If they "must" exist until they're "allowed",
> they'll never be free.
At 10:28 PM 1/8/98 -0600, you wrote:
>
>Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...two words...'topic' is one. 'off' is the other.
>
>=-)
>
>Anthony Clifton - Wirehead
One more word ---- HOAX! Since when did the FCC start regulating the
telephone industry? Phone rates are set by the individual state public
service commisions not by the FCC.
Joe
>
>On Thu, 8 Jan 1998, will emerson wrote:
>
>>
>>
>
Found this in a news-group.
Joe
My company needs the space and wants to give away an IBM System/36,
immediately! We need it out of here ASAP. Runs great! You haul. Call Rick
at 505-982-5573 or email: rogick(a)roadrunner.com
The equipment is as follows:
IBM System/36 Model 5360
IBM 4234 Dot Band Printer
6 IBM 3197 Color Workstations
Motorola Codex 2205 Modem
Dual Tape Backup by Fathom Technologies
About 6 5250 Emulation Cards (Short Length)
Everything works great!
In a message dated 98-01-08 22:43:53 EST, you write:
<< I have a couple of junk Model 30's if anyone...
My vote goes to the Model 25 as the most horrid computer PC of all time.
Unexpandable, impossible to work on. Ick! >>
actually, i think its kind of neat in a strange way. all in one form factor,
like a compact mac. in fact, the IBM Eduquests are built the same way. the
only bad part is expandability and if the monitor or power supply dies, you're
finished.
david
Between Christmas and New Year's I was cleaning out my mother's house and
found a Texas Instruments TI-71, complete with its docs and warranty card.
This is a small, line-powered digital clock. Still works fine.
What interests me here is that I recall hearing an unsupported contention,
years ago, that this was the _first_ commodity digital clock that used
seven-segment displays instead of flippers. Can anyone confirm or deny?
Tony, you probably know this one.
TIA,
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Kip Crosby engine(a)chac.org
http://www.chac.org/index.html
Computer History Association of California
Well, it isn't impressive yet, but there isn't much point to keeping
it hidden either. So, here's the URL for my beginnings of a web page
for SwTPC - Soutwest Technical Products Corp:
http://www.cs.unc.edu/~yakowenk/swtpc
Hope you like it.
Bill.
At 10:12 AM 1/8/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Tektronix made a number of interesting UN*X workstations (their flavor
[...snip-o-rama...]
>The following is some info about these that I collected from someone
>who worked at Tektronix during the time:
[...snipitty-doo-dah...]
>The Magnolia was a proof-of-concept design, built in small quantities for
[...snipola...]
>Here's a quick run-down (somewhat chronological):
[...schnippy...]
This is the kind of info that I really believe should be archived on the web
for all eternity.
I don't own a tektronix ws now, so although interesting, it's not something
I really want to clutter up my email folders with.
However, I might just get one next week. In which case, I'd really want
this info. But, I wouldn't want to bother Bill for it again (and again and
again...).
If it were on a web page somewhere, a search in Alta Vista (or whichever
search engine one used) would turn it up.
So, I would like to *really* encourage people who have this sort of info to
put it on the web.
Of course, it's all fine and dandy for me to say that (especially when I
have yet to get *my* collection online!) when I know you all have more
important things to do and more important stuff to fill your webspace with.
So, I'll offer to host and html-ize any stuff like this anyone wants to send
me. Just dump it (any kind of: history, folklore, specs, special commands,
secret codes, easter eggs, power supply voltages, etc.) in an e-mail and
send it to me at <roger(a)sinasohn.com> and I'll get it on-line. (It won't
necessarily be beautiful, but it will be useable.)
Thanks!
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Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad
roger(a)sinasohn.com that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/
For the sake of those reader not too thrilled about the current Linux and
x86 threads (zzzzz...), I offer the following update...
I received a bit mopre information about the units, and either they are
all pieces of a single Burroughs machine, or several individual machines.
What is not clear is what model they are.
I hope to get more information soon. The current owners have the things
half buried in surplus junk (probably good stuff, too!), so I may need to
prod them along.
Does anyone on this list have any sort of data on Burroughs machines? I
would like to get some sort of summary on the different models before
taking any possible plunges into the "real big iron" world.
William Donzelli
william(a)ans.net
