I went to a hamfest today and picked up two systems that "AREN'T GOING BACK
HOME". One is a Rubicon II and the other is a Tandy 6000 HD. The Rubicon
uses 2 floppy drives and I think runs CPM. The Tandy is running Xenix (sp?)
and has a 8 inch floppy drive and 15Mb hard drive. Can anyone tell me
anything about these? How rare? When they were made? If they have any
value? etc.
Joe
> a PC type can't consider until he's bloated his system to at least
> 640K (or lately, 32Mb).
96MB is what I just put into mine. Corel 7 _flies_!
...but, it's hard to unlearn habits. I still find myself deleting <1K text
files to "save space". I don't program much anymore, but if I did, I
suspect I'd still be trying to squeeze a few bytes out here and there.
With memory and HDD's so cheap, tho', and the intense pressure in the
software market, it's simply not economically feasible to shave bytes.
Also, a lot of the bloat is not only in features ("PIM outputs next year's
schedule in HTML for easy posting to the web -- now with finite element
analysis of paperclips!"), but things such as clipart, which gets stuck on
the hard drive, for convenience...even MSWorks comes with clipart, for
Pete's sake. Everything comes with 20 fonts (reminds me of an English
restaurant: everything with chips) and a tutorial.
Pete,
Have to send this on list as your address bounces.
<Have you installed the "N" diskset - networking tools? If so then it
<should be in /usr/sbin.
I'd selected it for install but for some reson setup didn't install all
the files I'd selected. I ran pkgtool and put everthing from the "n"
diskset in and it's there now.
<With regard to the packet driver for your DE-100 card it may be worth
<visiting D-Link's web site.
The PDI8023 would be better if I could use it in the dos/win3.1 box. I'll
check the web site.
Allison
OK, the question of the moment is how do I connect a console to a
VAXstation 2000? Is it the plug with arrows pointing in opposite
directions or do I need a special cable?
I'm assuming for a terminal I can just use a laptop running a comm package
that does VT100 emulation.
Zane
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At 13:29 09/01/98 -0800, Kip Crosby wrote:
>Between Christmas and New Year's I was cleaning out my mother's house and
>found a Texas Instruments TI-71, complete with its docs and warranty card.
>This is a small, line-powered digital clock. Still works fine.
>
>What interests me here is that I recall hearing an unsupported contention,
>years ago, that this was the _first_ commodity digital clock that used
>seven-segment displays instead of flippers. Can anyone confirm or deny?
Yes, more or less the "nostalgic taste" is more or less the same with all
the '70 's innovations.
I recall my first electronic watch: it was one of those black TI with red
plastic display.
Because of it's strong energy consumption, I had to replace the cells every
year.
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I saw a Boox by Tom somebody (sorry, forgot last name) on
Vax-11 programming and assembly language at Barnes&Noble for $6.
Its a big hard cover book.
It was in the discount stack, if anyone is interested I'd get it
and ship it at cost. You might want to check your local B&N and
see if they can order it at that cost too.
Michael Fulbright
msf(a)redhat.com
Peter the folloing messages may be of interest to you.
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<553 lyndale-486.-. config error: mail loops back to me (MX problem?)
<554 <pjoules(a)lyndale-486.->... Local configuration error
The rest of the crowd may be interested in this.
<Is your DOS box pure DOS or do you use Windows?
<Do you use any networking software with DOS?
Currently no networking with windows and it's windows 3.1. I call it dos
box as unlike Win95 win3.x is layered on dos.
I do however run trumpet(winsock), FreeAgent, winftp and Netscape3+ via
modem to the ISP.
<If you use windows 3.x then you will need to have a packet driver
<installed via autoexec.bat for your network card and then just install
<Trumpet Winsock and configure that.
Then I need a packet driver for either purdata PDI8023plus-16 or DECPCA
(DE100) card as that what I have.
However if I do that how do I run trumpet for the modem and the NI?
Allison
> Look at how fast a CP/M system can be up and running Wordstar, compared
to
> a Win95 system running Word97.
...but try wordstar on a Win95 system! (Actually, I still sell a few 386
systems as dedicated, cheap systems for word processing.)
<>640K (or lately, 32Mb). And I suspect that anytime Allison has even
<>4K at hand, she kicks some butt.
As someone who has (and still does) develope hardware and software,
Thank You!
<"power user" t
The original term is apple/mac in origin and was someone that knew the
guts and made their system situp and bark(sometimes literally!).
<Oh, and of late it seems to be more like 64Mb is the minimum to do anythi
<with a PC suffering the Winbloat. I totally agree that these can't handl
Even my biggest vax only 16meg, and my PC a measly 8mb and I run all that
and winders<ok 3.1 I cheat ;)>. Code bloat has become fantastic.
<stuff that any decently configured computer with less than 64k could do
<Look at how fast a CP/M system can be up and running Wordstar, compared t
<a Win95 system running Word97.
As someone that has some 10mhz z80 systems, that is an understatement. I
spent most of the 80s blowing the doors of PCs with PDP-11/23s and z80s.
It wasn't till the 386/33s that that became a real contest in my eyes.
At that point I started using old vaxen to make the race interesting.
Allison
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>To: "Discussion re-collecting of classic computers"
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>Subject: Free IBM system 36
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>Found this in a news-group.
>
> Joe
>
>My company needs the space and wants to give away an IBM System/36,
>immediately! We need it out of here ASAP. Runs great! You haul.
Call Rick
>at 505-982-5573 or email: rogick(a)roadrunner.com
>
>The equipment is as follows:
> IBM System/36 Model 5360
> IBM 4234 Dot Band Printer
> 6 IBM 3197 Color Workstations
> Motorola Codex 2205 Modem
> Dual Tape Backup by Fathom Technologies
> About 6 5250 Emulation Cards (Short Length)
>Everything works great!
OK, here's my question: would I, as a "power user" have any non-
romantic/nostalgic/etc. use for such a machine?
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