That's too bad, Id love to get ahold of some software, just a boot disk is
boring.....
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> From: Kip Crosby <engine(a)chac.org>
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
> Subject: Re: TRS-80 model 4
> Date: Friday, September 26, 1997 10:12 AM
>
> Well, I was startled last night.
>
> I went to Back to School Night in my son's tenth-grade classes, walked
into
> one of the rooms (which was obviously shared among several subjects) and
> there....were about seven TRS-80 model 4's, networked -- or at least set
up
> with some kind of print sharing -- and clearly in daily use.
Unfortunately
> my son's teacher wasn't the one who used them, so she knew nothing about
them.
>
> __________________________________________
> Kip Crosby engine(a)chac.org
> http://www.chac.org/index.html
> Computer History Association of California
>
At 03:17 PM 9/24/97 -0600, you wrote:
>lifetime! Once it gets to this point, it will cease to be a 'fun'
>hobby, and will turn into a commercialized, over-marketed
>'investment vehicle'. Coin & Stamp collecting, Baseball cards, and
Not all coin collecting is like that. Certainly, modern US (with the
grading services and all) is like that, but there are still many areas of
numismatics that are still open to hobbiests. Large cents, Fugio Cents (my
personal favorite), colonials, canadian, a lot of foreign, tokens, and so on
still offer lots of opportunity for learning, research, and fun, without
being so sanitary and heartless as a lot of such hobbies.
Important note: Buy the book before you buy the coin. Know what you are
doing, or you *will* get burned. (There's a company ala QVC that sells
coins on TV at night -- Things like 3 Susan B. Anthony dollars for $10, when
you can go to the post office and get the exact same thing for $3.)
I think that even if the collecting of original PC's and Imsai's and such
becomes too mainstream, there will still be plenty for the rest of us.
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Well, I was startled last night.
I went to Back to School Night in my son's tenth-grade classes, walked into
one of the rooms (which was obviously shared among several subjects) and
there....were about seven TRS-80 model 4's, networked -- or at least set up
with some kind of print sharing -- and clearly in daily use. Unfortunately
my son's teacher wasn't the one who used them, so she knew nothing about them.
__________________________________________
Kip Crosby engine(a)chac.org
http://www.chac.org/index.html
Computer History Association of California
<Was any machine (most likely mainframe class) ever built using F100K ECL
<(the super fast stuff - even today)? The family is small but well thought
<out, and includes some rather bizarre functions.
I'm not certain but it may be in the VAX9000 series. It was all ECL and
the ecl was built up into special modules to control heat and compact the
circuitry (for less wire). It was a fast machine but costly to build and
would get real upset if the cooling failed..
Allison
At 20:07 9/25/97 -0500, you wrote:
>What does that mean for those of us that show up at British car meets and
>park next to the pristine Rollses, jags, bentleys, and so on, in mud-covered
>Land Rovers? 8^)
It means hearing a lot of people say "Hey, Roger! I see you got it running
again!" ;-)
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Kip Crosby engine(a)chac.org
http://www.chac.org/index.html
Computer History Association of California
<I also do a considerable amount of electronic design, so have a lot of
<the common stuff (TTL, signal transistors, op-amps, passives, etc) for that
I'm an engineer and do a lot of selfbuilt as well and the only way is to
have what I call the bottomless junkbox. I mean I have about 10+ xerox
paper boxes (holds 10 reams of A4 paper) full of old boards and loose parts.
and another 10-20 divided covered trays of parts many new (in 1979!) though
old as when I bought I'd get 10 as they were cheap even if I only needed
one. Even expensive chips I'd get two to have a spare.
I'm not fussy about replacing a 1977 datecode with 1990 as repairs are
simply that. Keep in mind function is my goal.
Allison
At 02:38 PM 9/24/97 -0400, you wrote:
>I agree. It's also interesting to read between the lines of this thread
>and note that some people would definately be the type to do "concours"
>restorations. (Personally, I draw the line at worrying about the color of
>the ribbon cables.)
What does that mean for those of us that show up at British car meets and
park next to the pristine Rollses, jags, bentleys, and so on, in mud-covered
Land Rovers? 8^)
Personally, I like computers in as new condition as possible, but I'm not
fanatically about it, and Upgrades/expansions don't matter much to me. I
actually like used machines because they have a history behind them.
Someone used them, and maybe they added a bigger hard disk or a better video
card.
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Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad
sinasohn(a)crl.com that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/
At 04:44 PM 9/24/97 -0500, you wrote:
>This is particularly evident in the realm of old games. If you have an
>old Ultima for the Apple ][, complete with everything it came with, it
>will fetch a pretty penny.
I did a search at Amazon.Com for "Atari" and was surprised to see quite a
few 8-bit games and programs show up, and with prices like $50. I think
they were pretty much all labeled "Special Order", but they were listed...
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Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad
sinasohn(a)crl.com that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/
Miscellaneous Computer-related shows have been mentioned (Whiz Kids, Knight
Rider, Riptide, Automan, etc.) but have y'all seen a show called Reboot?
It's animated, and shown (generally, I think) saturday mornings on ABC
(Again, I think). It takes place inside a computer and the good guys are
always battling the evil virii, and such. All the characters are
computer-related terms/objects.
It's definitely worth watching at least once. (I was turned onto it in
Ottawa, Canada, so I know it gets around somewhat.) Of course, there's no
David Hassellhoff...
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Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad
sinasohn(a)crl.com that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/
