At 02:38 PM 9/24/97 -0400, you wrote: What does that mean for those of us that show up at British car meets and park next to the pristine Rollses, jags, bentleys, and so on, in mud-covered Land Rovers? 8^) Personally, I like computers in as new condition as possible, but I'm not fanatically about it, and Upgrades/expansions don't matter much to me. I actually like used machines because they have a history behind them. Someone used them, and maybe they added a bigger hard disk or a better video card. --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad sinasohn(a)crl.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/