test-drb September 1997

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by jrbrady＠delphi.com

Many collectors have multiple systems and peripherals that can be cannibalized for parts if anything in their primary machine fails, but what about maintaining an inventory of discrete components such as ICs or those 150,000 Mfd filter capacitors? I reviewed the availability of parts for many of my systems and found that most components are readily available. Others were more difficult to locate or were listed under another industry part number (e.g., a "25LS2521" is actually a "74LS688"). Do you think it's worth the effort to purchase spare discrete components? Are there any specific categories of devices or parts that are prone to damage, failure, or extinction? Regards, Jason Brady jrbrady(a)delphi.com Seattle, WA

27 years, 2 months

Prices (Re: DEC PDP-11's, Peripherals, Docs, Unix, etc. for sale; L.A.,CA.)

by c-bristol＠usa.net

I'm sorry, I don't know what this stuff is worth. I bought my PDP-11 stuff when it was still worth something. I paid $5,000 for the 11/45, and $1,000 for the Emulex SC21/B1, to make a home Unix system in 1983. Just ignore my prices and make any offer. Did I hear an offer of $30 + shipping for the SC21/B1? ?? Buy the way, I already sold about 15 items (mostly stereo stuff) from this list at almost the prices I asked. So on the computer stuff, please ignore my prices, but try to pay me enough to crate it up if you are not able to pick it up in L.A. ---------- From: Zane H. Healy <healyzh(a)ix.netcom.com> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Subject: Re: DEC PDP-11's, Peripherals, Docs, Unix, etc. for sale; L.A.,CA. Date: Friday, September 26, 1997 10:26 PM >> FLOPPY DISK DRIVE, DSD, 2 8" floppies in 10" rack box, runs a=20 >> PDP-11, copy of DEC RX01, $95. Optional: RT-11 set, source, > ^^^^^^^ >> XXDP Diagnostics, on floppies > >If Mentec gets wind that you're selling the source to a still-supported >operating system like RT-11, you better get a lawyer - and a good one! Well he did say he was planning on leaving the country! :^) Actually he's been trying to sell this stuff for quite some time, I first saw this when I was doing a search on 19" racks and DejaNews pulled it up, I think that was in July. Zane | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Adminstrator | | healyzh(a)ix.netcom.com (primary) | Linux Enthusiast | | healyzh(a)holonet.net (alternate) | Mac Programmer | +----------------------------------+---------------------------+ | For Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | and the collecting of Classic Computers with info on them. | | see http://www.dragonfire.net/~healyzh/ |

27 years, 2 months

Apple III+ questions

by engine＠chac.org

At 08:41 9/27/97 -0500, you wrote: >I have alot of original software and docs for the ///, but not the ///+, >but if I know my history right, they ///+ was just basically the version >that worked :) I'm researching that now, and, not quite. The original, buggy /// started shipping in September 1980. There was a revised, mostly fixed version also called the /// that was introduced in December 1981. The ///+ didn't appear till December 1983 and both models were discontinued in April 1984....so that's why most of us don't have a ///+. __________________________________________ Kip Crosby engine(a)chac.org http://www.chac.org/index.html Computer History Association of California

27 years, 2 months

Nicolet 290 needs home

by engine＠chac.org

At 06:14 9/27/97 +0000, Ken Harbit wrote: >> We have a working (or at least it was) Nicolet 290 computer.... > Does anyone know anything about these computers? I have no idea what >else they may have been used for or how rare this thing is.... > >I've never heard of a Nicolet 290... What is it? I have a funny feeling it has something to do with http://www.nicimg.com , which is what you get if you stuff +"Nicolet" into AltaVista. And since they're in San Diego, this computer may be on my turf, oh joy. __________________________________________ Kip Crosby engine(a)chac.org http://www.chac.org/index.html Computer History Association of California

27 years, 2 months

Apple III+ questions

by MicroAge97＠aol.com

hello, My friend say the apple/// should be able to boot off the profile.... but he hasn't used one on an aplle ///, just lisa's. dave

27 years, 2 months

Apple III+ questions

by thedm＠sunflower.com

Okay, where to begin: I have several ///'s but no plus, so needless to say, im jealous:) The AA's are factory, they go to the clock circuit to retain the time, some later regular ///'s had this as well. {clone pc's use this method as well, like old DTK's} The profile drive is more tricky, I have one too and it works. It is not a bootable device, you need a "catalyst" disk, that's the disk that runs the card and initialized the drive. It has some kind of menu system you edit to bring up like a dosshell kinda of thing to select items, This I havent figured out yet, when I go into the "catalyst editor" i get a file now found. Mine came loaded and working. I have alot of original software and docs for the ///, but not the ///+, but if I know my history right, they ///+ was just basically the version that worked :) ---------- > From: Zane H. Healy <healyzh(a)ix.netcom.com> > To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> > Subject: Apple III+ questions > Date: Saturday, September 27, 1997 12:01 AM > > Hi, > Got a Apple III+ yesterday, not sure if it works, haven't powered it up > yet, it was such a mess that I'm working on cleaning it up first. > > I just cracked the case open and notice that it has three AA batteries in a > battery holder between the floppy drive and the power supply. They're in > front of where the cards go. Finding AA's strike me as more than a little > odd! Is this a user modification? > > Also I've been lucky enough to get a Profile drive with it, and the > controller card is in the computer. As I've said, I've not powered the > system up yet, is there anything here I should be aware of. Does it boot > off of the HD or just the floppy? I do have a boot floppy, but I've no > idea if it's any good. > > Zane > > > | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Adminstrator | > | healyzh(a)ix.netcom.com (primary) | Linux Enthusiast | > | healyzh(a)holonet.net (alternate) | Mac Programmer | > +----------------------------------+---------------------------+ > | For Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | > | and the collecting of Classic Computers with info on them. | > | see http://www.dragonfire.net/~healyzh/ | >

27 years, 2 months

FS: IBM 5100 & need Apple FDD

by manney＠nwohio.com

$500 is the top offer so far. (that was more than I'd hoped to get). Manney -----Original Message----- From: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> To: Manney <Manney> Date: Friday, September 26, 1997 1:16 PM Subject: Re: FS: IBM 5100 & need Apple FDD >On Fri, 26 Sep 1997, PG Manney wrote: > >> I have a complete IBM 5100 system available (CPU, external drives, printer, >> all documentation). Works fine, so far as I know. >> >> Unfortunately, the guy has some money into it, and wants some for it. >> >> It is in Northwestern Ohio. >> >> Offers? > >$100? > >> p.s. I need an Apple disk drive...anyone have one? Is any one out there an >> Apple expert and is interested in answering questions? If so, please e-mail >> me. > >Ask away. I grew up on Apple. I also have several disk drives >available, plus controller cards, and other stuff. What did you need? > >Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- >Computer Historian, Programmer, Musician, Philosopher, Athlete, Writer, Jackass > > Attend the First Annual Vintage Computer Festival > See http://www.siconic.com/vcf for details! > > > >

27 years, 2 months

CLASSICCMP digest 187

by gmast＠polymail.cpunix.calpoly.edu

Hey Sam, I told the last guy, they want $10, $10 for my pain + shipping (cheap for you, he was in Chicago). Get back to me ASAP! Greg Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 22:21:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Sam Ismail <dastar(a)crl.com> To: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu Subject: Re: Goodwill Stuff Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.970926222040.17970F-100000(a)crl4.crl.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 26 Sep 1997, Greg Mast wrote: > TI 99/4 Expansion Module. Big heavy sucker. Has a floppy in it and an > interface cable. Hey Greg, I'm interested in this. If no one else has jumped on it please grab it for me. How much is it? Thanks. Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------- Computer Historian, Programmer, Musician, Philosopher, Athlete, Writer, Jackass Attend the First Annual Vintage Computer Festival See http://www.siconic.com/vcf for details!

27 years, 2 months

Goodwill Stuff

by gmast＠polymail.cpunix.calpoly.edu

I was at the Goodwill today and came across a couple interesting finds. The problem is that I'm trying not to accumulate any more of this stuff. If someone is interested in one of these, maybe we can work it out. I am in Central CA so shipping is kind of a pain for me. I guess you could make me an offer then I'll see if I can get it, then we'll do a deal. I'd just like to make it worth my trouble. I didn't buy these so if you're interested, send me an offer I guess. I'll cruise over there tomorrow and see if they're still around. Hate to see them get tossed. Email me before 9 AM PDT tomorrow or I doubt if I'll get over there again until middle of next week. TI 99/4 Expansion Module. Big heavy sucker. Has a floppy in it and an interface cable. Osborne Executive portable, works, KB, 5" (or so) amber monitor.

27 years, 2 months

CC> Management suggestion

by engine＠chac.org

Since I've been on the list for a few days now, I'm getting used to the volume of the traffic, but I have a suggestion to make managing it a bit easier. Like most of us, I suspect, I like to segregate the received traffic so I can archive it. Why don't we take a leaf from CYHIST's playbook and start putting a flag at the front of the Subject: (as I did above) to make it easier to sort? This would be especially valuable for me since I receive both list and non-list mail from a few people. TIA, __________________________________________ Kip Crosby engine(a)chac.org http://www.chac.org/index.html Computer History Association of California

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