Yea! Thanks to Ted Birdsell's reservation we reached the 100 mark! (This
is like a Jerry Lewis telethon.)
C'mon, let's squeeze out 50 more! I know you all can do it!!! :)
I'm thinking about putting an advertisement on some usenet groups to get
some more response. I'm going to advertise them at $15 plus shipping.
Please do not get alarmed. Of course I will be making a profit.
Remember, there are 400 of these HHCs available. Tell a friend!
Sam
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Computer Historian, Programmer, Musician, Philosopher, Athlete, Writer, Jackass
I thought this would be interesting.
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In alt.folklore.computers, wkt(a)hennry.cs.adfa.oz.au (Warren Toomey)
wrote:
%The petition urging SCO to make source code licenses for 6th and 7th
Edition
%UNIX (and their relations) is going well, with over 200 signatures on
the
%petition so far. However, we still need your support to encourage SCO
to act.
%
%If you ever used UNIX on a PDP-11, own a copy of John Lions
Commentary
%(legal or otherwise), believe that these systems are historically
%interesting, or even if you think owning a source code license to a
%REAL UNIX would be cool, then please SIGN THE PETITION at
%
% http://minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au/PUPS/petition.html
%
%If you know anybody else who might be prepared to sign this petition,
%then ___pass this message onto them___. Finally, check out the home
page
%of the PDP-11 UNIX Preservation Society at
%
% http://minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au/PUPS/
%
%Many thanks in advance,
%
% Warren Toomey wkt(a)cs.adfa.oz.au
%
%
Hello, all:
Here's one for you...a kind sole that I know on CompuServe was kind enough to
produce color scans of the original MITS Altair article from the 1/75 issue of
Popluar Electronics. I posted it yesterday on the Classic Computer ftp site
under the name altarmag.zip. The file is big (3.7mb), containing about 9 jpgs.
Wait till you see the color!
I'm also working on this guy to prepare Adobe PDF scans of the original
Altair construction manual and schematics. I've seen some scans previously,
but they have shadows, etc. Hopefully, these will be of similar quality to the
mag scans.
When I've got them, I'll post a message.
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Rich Cini/WUGNET
- ClubWin Charter Member (6)
- MCPS Windows 95/Networking
I'm taking the following machines to the dump on Saturday. If anyone is
within striking distance of Bedford, NH and wants any of these machines
please let me know.
TI-99/4a (doesn't work)
A few TI cartridges and books
Heathkit H-11 (works)
Heathkit dual 8" disk drive unit (doesn't work)
Vector V3-5036 S-100 system (works)
Vector dual 5.25" disk drive unit (untested)
VT-100 clone
--
David Betz
dbetz(a)xlisper.mv.com
DavidBetz(a)aol.com
(603) 472-2389
David, or anyone who's going to drop by David's place... I'd pay for
packing/shipping for any of the Heathkit or Vector equipment that others
don't want to keep.
Kai
> ----------
> From: David Betz
> Reply To: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu
> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 1997 7:40 AM
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
> Subject: Machines on the way to the dump...
>
> I'm taking the following machines to the dump on Saturday. If anyone
> is
> within striking distance of Bedford, NH and wants any of these
> machines
> please let me know.
>
> TI-99/4a (doesn't work)
> A few TI cartridges and books
> Heathkit H-11 (works)
> Heathkit dual 8" disk drive unit (doesn't work)
> Vector V3-5036 S-100 system (works)
> Vector dual 5.25" disk drive unit (untested)
> VT-100 clone
>
> --
> David Betz
> dbetz(a)xlisper.mv.com
> DavidBetz(a)aol.com
> (603) 472-2389
>
>From: "e.tedeschi" <e.tedeschi(a)ndirect.co.uk>
>Subject: Re: Why?
>Well, to get more specific, I have the (perhaps wrong) feeling that:
> a) You are against collectors who collect for the historical importance
> onyl and are not really worried if the item works or not (as long as all
> the parts are in there and the thing can be made to work if and when
> required). I have been ridiculized when I suggested this one way to go
> about collecting.
I have never felt that here, and I have several items in my collection
in non-working order. Would I give up my P-500, MTU VMM board, or
SuperPET if I never got them fixed? NO! I would hope to get them fixed
but the important thing now is to get them, mainly because it is part of
the 'collection' if they work, wonderful, if they don't they still has
meaning.
> b) You are against collectors who want ot take out bits and pieces from
> the systems in order to show them separately (but retaining and perhaps
> even ehibiting the "crippled" item). I have been refused help in thsi
> respect when it became apparent I was going to do this.
I think that may be personal views by individual collectors and not by
the group in whole. Some feel that not having 'original parts' or
add-ons is blasphmey. I can understand and appreciate where you come
from, there are compnents of computers that are shear art as the disk
controller in the apple II (from what I read the board was drawn 'not
designed by computer' by Steve Wozniac.) I would be interested to learn
more about it. There have been chips that have amazed me too. Everyone
has their own intrest. The only reason you are perceiving otherwise is
that those people are the ones that are posting more, from years of
running an BBS as well as participating on the group, the more you post
messages the more attention and notoriety you will receive. If you want
to see something written about an interest of yours, sometimes you just
have to sit down and write it yourself.
> c) You are against helping "foreigners" (and therefore "different")
> collectors to export "your" stuff perhaps in the wrong perception that
> it will diminish the heritage of the country (yours). I have striken a
> deal with one of the subscriber here and he disappeared in the distance
> after a while (he did not answer anymore...) By the way does anybody
> need British stuff? I would be glad to help you with it.
I reply to what I know (some times I also replay to what I don't know
and put my foot in the mouth in the process). If you see anyone post
about Commodores or PETs more specifically, you can be sure within a day
or so a response from me will follow (unless it is something I am
totally in the dark about). Case in point, Exidy Sorceror, I purchased
one and sent it to Sam Ismael, he is now looking for information, not
very many people ever seen one, much less an ad for one, sometimes the
best we can do is quiote from old magazine ads. :/ Also some of the
sytems are regional and there may not be many people from that area who
have seen that particular machine on this list...
> Of course I have no proof of the above but from the short experience I
> had here, I think that the problem exhists as opposed to the "openess"
> of other American collecting groups like, for example, the radio
> collecting community which has been VERY helpful with me and other
> "foreigners" to buy and export stuff from the USA and CANADA (what about
> the stuff you ARE importing from overseas then?).
I have sent fellow users disks and cartridges through the mail to
Europe, anything larger I could not afford the shipping. This depends
on the individual. Sam was lucky to get me to shop the Sorcer as quick
as I did, I myself lothe shipping things, especially heavy/bulky
things. I think that again depends on the individual.
> I think that if you think I am wrong the best way to demonstrate it, if
> you care, is not with words but with facts.
> Thank you for your interest
> enrico
You are very welcome and hope you keep with the list and help us all to
work out this misunderstanding.
Larry Anderson
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Scott Ware <s-ware(a)nwu.edu> writes:
> The main unit is a single piece about the size of a Processor Technology
> Sol.
I believe this may be a Big Clue. Isn't the Expander one of the
things that Lee Felsenstein designed between Processor Technology and
Osborne? I also seem to remember that it was primarily marketed in
Europe.
Good catch!
-Frank McConnell
> > Currently no one knows (or is saying they know) how to encrypt 7800
> > carts.
> >
>
> Actually, I seem to recall that a guy in rec.games.video.classic has
> figured it out, but there hasn't been any practical application of it
> yet. But I haven't read r.g.v.c in a LONG time, so things may have
> changed...
>
> I wish I could remember his name... he was one of the big cheese
> techie
> types in the newsgroup that was always hacking up weird stuff, so I
> don't
> doubt that he did it.
> -------
>
> My good friend, Bruce Tomlin, was the person who did that.
>
> -Mp