test-drb July 1997

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111 participants
442 discussions

by idavis＠comland.com

It has been a month since I started the list, so I guess it's time for an little update. We have quite a few entries so far, and the list really looks good. Only two of us (Brett and myself) have volunteered to have our vehicles repainted, stickers applied, and flashing lights installed. Just keep in mind that this list is strictly that, just a list. No one is comitted to do anything, but we are all here in the interest of preservation, so anything you can do will help. I, as well as everyone on the list has a limit to what they will/can haul and ship if necessary. We all pretty much have the same goals and limitations. If you are not on the list, and want to be added, feel free to email me. On a side note, I have also added a second page with a list of items that have been saved. If someone contacts you through the list and you manage to save something, go ahead and let me know. I will add it to the page. If you cannot get to the web page, or know someone who wants a copy, I can email it to you/them. Thanks for all of the entries. Isaac Davis | Don't throw out that old computer, idavis(a)comland.com | check out the Classic Computer Rescue List - indavis(a)juno.com | http://www.comland.com/~idavis/classic/classic.html

26 years, 11 months

Gateway 2000 Buys Amiga

by sinasohn＠crl.com

At 09:48 PM 7/9/97 GMT, you wrote: >the Amiga? Even the video editing/effects market seems to have turned >towards Apple machines. And even Apple itself is finding selling >difficult in the face of the Wintel machines. I'd be willing to bet that GW2K is after the video toaster technology (yes, I know it's a separate company). It is a pretty hot system, at least according to friends who do that sort of thing. --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad sinasohn(a)crl.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/

26 years, 11 months

Gateway 2000 Buys Amiga

by BNICALEK＠aol.com

Collectors: All this talk about the Amiga's got me thinking about what I read in the "Amiga Format" magazine (which they still have subscriptions for). Apparently Gateway 2000 has purchased the Amiga name, but from what I hear, has no real plans for implementation on a new product at the moment. What there are however, are old A1200's or something like that (I'm not to familiar with the Amiga line) going for sale as "remanufactured". Also curious to see if people out there would be interested in seeing Amiga create a new "home computer" which would incorporate educational, productivity and entertainment titles into one package with Internet connectivity. Any thoughts? You can write me personally if you prefer. Bryan Nicalek bnicalek(a)aol.com

26 years, 11 months

"Bally Astrocade"

by coslor＠pscosf.peru.edu

Hello: I recently picked up two old game system units that i really don't know a whole lot about. I am hoping some you you may be able to fill me in on soem more information. 1) This unit is label "APF tv fun" pn the front. It has a knob with four game selection possibilities, on/off switch/ start button, angle setting, bat size setting, and ball speed setting. It appears this is an old Tennis/baseball type of game unit. It also appears that the actual controllers on on the main unit in the form of knobs. It saw it was made in Japan by APF Electronics, Inc. although I can't find a year. Could anyone help there? It also says underneath TV FUN Model No. 401A and seriel number is S- 052193. Finally it has the TV channell selector (3 or 4) and battery storage unit to run it off batteries. Could anyone please give me some more information on this, and also info. on if it might have some value out there or interest from any of you? 2) This looks like a 'golden oldie'. This also is a self contained game unit. It came complete with two odd looking joysticks, although the machine has ports for four joysticks. On the front it has a calculator looking button pad and to the right of that is a cassette insertion place along with an eject and reset button. Behing all of this is a storage compartment for several cassettes, complete with hard palstic cover for this area as well.I also have an overlay that says Astrocade BASIC (c) 1978 Astrocade, Inc.? This apparently goes with a cassette for the unit that says " BASIC, Computer Programming Cartridge with Built-In Interface (c) 1981 Astrocade, Inc. " On the cassette is a small like and an audio cassette Jack (in/out) -- also came witha small microphone.On the underside it says Astrocade Arcade Model ABA-1000-2 with a seriel # of 020777 and Astrovision, Inc, Garner, Iowa also on the bottom. Again, would any of you know more information on this unit, and if it might have some value out there to collectors? Are any of you interested? I only paid $5 for both of the above items, and I guess I am willing to entertain propositions if anyone wants them. Please let me know. Oh, yes, are there other cassettes available for the Astrocade? Are the above units very common these days? Thanks, CORD COSLOR //*=====================================================================++ || Cord G. Coslor P.O. Box 308 - 1300 3rd St. Apt "M1" -- Peru, NE || || (402) 872- 3272 coslor(a)bobcat.peru.edu 68421-0308 || || Classic computer software and hardware collector || || Autograph collector || ++=====================================================================*//

26 years, 11 months

Zenith Portable Computer ZP-150

by dastar＠crl.com

Anyone know much about the Zenith Portable Computer ZP-150? I'm possibly buying one this weekend and want to know a little about it before I go through all the trouble. Thanks! Sam ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Computer Historian, Programmer, Musician, Philosopher, Athlete, Writer, Jackass

26 years, 11 months

"Bally Astrocade"

by allisonp＠world.std.com

> 1) This unit is label "APF tv fun" pn the front. It has a knob with fou > game selection possibilities, on/off switch/ start button, angle settin > bat size setting, and ball speed setting. It appears this is an old > Tennis/baseball type of game unit. It also appears that the actual > controllers on on the main unit in the form of knobs. It saw it was mad > in Japan by APF Electronics, Inc. although I can't find a year. Could > anyone help there? It also says underneath TV FUN Model No. 401A and that's the oldie of the bunch! Early game machines from the mid '70 were the tennis/pong type and used a few chips. their logic was a mix of digital and analog. My guess would be 75-77 timeframe. It would be some years before the tvgames would go the microprocessor route to get the the first ataris and company. Allison

26 years, 11 months

Crappadore 64

by sinasohn＠crl.com

At 03:19 PM 7/3/97 -0700, you wrote: >> That's funny...a computer facelift. > > Actually, a number of companies offered the same type of thing for the >ZX-81/Timex-Sinclair 1000. It was to give the computer a real keyboard And the Atari ST -- to put it in a tower case, among other things. --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad sinasohn(a)crl.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/

26 years, 11 months

Heathkit Hero 1/2000

by rcini＠msn.com

Just out of curiosity (isn't that a great lead-in??), how much would an old Heath Hero 1000/2000 robot go for?? They seem relatively scarce, but I would like to get one to support my renewed interest in robotics. Just what I need, another hobby... ------------------------ Rich Cini/WUGNET - ClubWin Charter Member (6) - MCPS Windows 95/Networking

26 years, 11 months

(fwd) FS: Commodore SuperPet SP9000 (Runs Fine) $100 (fwd)

by dastar＠crl.com

Maybe someone is interested in this. Sam ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Computer Historian, Programmer, Musician, Philosopher, Athlete, Writer, Jackass ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Chris Glackin" <cglackin(a)msn.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: FS: Commodore SuperPet SP9000 (Runs Fine) $100 For Sale: Commodore SuperPet SP9000 ($100) For sale by private owner Located in Farmington Hills, Michigan Prefer Pickup/Cash Only $100 PLEASE DIRECT ALL INQUIRIES TO: CGLACKIN(a)MSN.COM 1 Commodore Superpet SP9000 Turns on and seems to run fine * I can't verify the operation of any of the edge connectors due to lack of accessories, but I have turned it on and written some simple BASIC programs that run fine in 6502 and 6809 mode Has both 6502 and 6809 boards with toggle switches on side Green Monochrome trapezoid shaped screen works fine Original piezo speaker sound still works great Keyboard works great Case is in pretty good condition * No dents or major marks, a few minor scratches that could be touched up The 'hood' lifts fine, doesn't even squeak, and has the original stick inside to hold it up - just like a car hood (anyone ever make a miniature drop light for the Pet series?) ** I do not have ANY manuals or accessories for this computer When this computer is turned on, a menu comes up with a list of programming languages to select from. At the top of the screen it says: WATERLOO MICROSYSTEMS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I learned to program in 6502 assembly language on the Pet 2001 w/ a 4040 dual disk drive unit in 1981. I never even knew of a SuperPet until I found this one waiting for the Sanitation Engineers on a curb a few years ago. I thought it was the regular old Pet when I saw it from afar. So I picked it up and carried it home - an excruciating half mile journey. If you are one who remembers lifting a Pet, you know what I'm talking about! I figured I'd relive some of the ol' days and actually put some sort of working system together, but there just isn't any time left in this SDK-A-MINUTE computer world. I have met others online that love their Pet's -- and other various computer antiques -- and seem to enjoy keeping them running, so perhaps this SuperPet can find a much more deserving home. The serial number is SP0000284. Is this the 284th SuperPet off the line? Out of how many? Is it related to HAL? If anyone knows the answers, I'd love to hear them. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- E-MAIL: CGLACKIN(a)MSN.COM Commodore SuperPet SP9000 for $100 -- Sam ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Computer Historian, Programmer, Musician, Philosopher, Athlete, Writer, Jackass

26 years, 11 months

Amigas and PETs...

by foxnhare＠goldrush.com

RE: CD-32 and Amiga w/drive on the side... The CD32 is actually an Amiga 1200 not the more limited 600. The 1200 has the more advanced AGA graphics chipset (and a 68020 processor). There are expansion units (SX-1 I think is the name of them) readily available to bump the CD32 up to a full-fledged 1200. You can easily adapt an IBM clone 'box' power supply to use on the 500. I have my Amiga 500 and hard drive wired into one. (the hardest part would be finding an Amiga 500 power connector) The 500 is a great computer and one of the easiest to expand, (except for the 2000). You can find alot of good projects on the internet for it. ===-===--===---=-=-=-=-=-===---===--- >From: Marvin <marvin(a)rain.org> >Subject: Pet Serial Numbers >Just curious if anyone knows what the starting serial number was for the >Commodore Pets? So far, the following are the earliest Pets I have. I >believe these both came from the local university at one of their sales. My oldest is in the 14000 area IIRC. It is an original 8k unit (the tape drives with it were butchered Sanyo units, so it was'nt too late in the productiion run.) --==-=-=-=--=--=--=====--=--==--=-= >From: Cord Coslor <coslor(a)pscosf.peru.edu> >Subject: c-16 and Plus/4 >I remember seeing a post here a week or two ago asking about the >availability of Commodore 16 and Plus/4 cartridges. I response, I >gathered, was that they were not very common here in teh United States, >and seemed just altogether uncommon.... maybe even some doubt as to the >actual number of titles created. >Recently, I picked up my first c-16 / Plus/4 cart -- it was Scott Adams >adventure game Strange Odyssey sold by Commodore. This titles was not >mentioned by those on this listserv. It was one of the set of eight I had bought (all with the commodore brand name on em), I probably didn't mention it cause I don't remember all the titles... (I am reconing they are in the outside storage closet which is currently inhabited by wasps...) *bummer* >Anyway, I also have a TON of other titles that I have been using for some >time on my PC emulator called Minus/4. A very good emulator. So, I guess >what I am finally getting at is it seems there actually WERE a lot of >different titles created for these machines, though I do not know the >actual numbers of titles, quantities, or popularity in the US. Could >anyone out there fill us in on some facts? Besides Magic Carpet Software, Data-20 (responsible for the +3 productivity programs in the +4s ROM), and Progressive Software (Superbase is available for the Plus/4!) I didnt hear of all that much stuff put out in the U.S. Europe on the other hand has had a great following with the Plus/4 and C-16, most of the programs I would safely guess are from there. User support here was either through PLUG (Plus/4 Users Group), or Jim Hehl in Anchorage. Plug provided a list of European distributors and Jim was into program conversion (Such popular 64 programs like Speedscript were converted). The major bummer about European Plus/4 stuff is alot of it is compressed and locked into PAL mode and thus unviewable on NTSC displays. (Jim & Jack Vandewrwhite had converted some though, I think they are available on funet.fi's FTP., I think the series is called 'ceepee4' something...) >I just don't have the experience in these machines needed to accurately >inform others. >Finally, does anyone have a c-16 or Plus/4 machine for sale or trade. I >just have this one cartridge, but I have a burning desire to acquire one >or more of these machines. Please let me know. Actually.... YES! I picked up one a couple weeks back and will sell it to you for the price I paid ($2.95) plus shipping (USPS, $10 or so...) It comes in its box with a Power Supply (I don't think I have any extra manuals, sorry). I just powered it up and it does work (though there is a strange wire hanging out; looking on the motherboard I would assume it was for a utility cart or something. Regardless it doesn't affect operation.) E-mail me if interested. Larry Anderson -- -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Visit our web page at: http://www.goldrush.com/~foxnhare/ Call our BBS (Silicon Realms BBS 300-2400 baud) at: (209) 754-1363 -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-

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test-drb July 1997