> How do you get in the cmos on a Grid 1660????
>
> Some body brought it to me and said it could not find A drive and when I
looked it had 5 drives A.C.D.F.H. And when I got rid of H drive it took
the Operating files with it. now I got disk error and I want to get into
cmos to see if I can format the drive and start from scratch.
When all else fails I use an old (Packard Bell!) 286 setup program that
seems to work most of the time. Won't work on nonstandard HDD tables,
though.
manney
> <I remember my heathkit (H-89) had a similar warning about starting up w
> <a disk in the drive.
>
> This is generally true for most everything but 3.5" floppy disks,
> TU58 dectape and harddisks(there are exceptions).
How 'bout CD-ROM's? <g>
Don't DARE plug that drive into a //c!!! I did it once (not with my own ones
:) and it fried the //c, leaving the drive intact (I think).
Original:
>seen one quite like this. it's a bit smaller than the apple 3.5 drive, and
>doesnt have the stripes molded in and does not have an eject button either,
>only the hole to push a paper clip wire in. can this drive be used on a //c
or
>similar?
As far as I know the 800k Apple drive you have described can only be used
on a Mac Plus or better. Or a modified 512k. I really doubt that it will
work with a //c. I could be wrong...
<> I recall a warning about the datadrives or the Adam in general: don
<> turn on the Adam with a datatape in the drive, the drive will send ou
<> pulse that may damage data stored on the part of the tape next to th
<> write head (some said up to a few feet away, I don't know about
<> that...:/ )
<
<I remember my heathkit (H-89) had a similar warning about starting up w
<a disk in the drive.
This is generally true for most everything but 3.5" floppy disks,
TU58 dectape and harddisks(there are exceptions).
Allison
At 05:39 PM 12/23/97 -0500, you wrote:
>I'm looking at picking up an Olivetti M10, but I don't know too much about
>this one. I'm told that it has neither a floppy nor a hard drive. Can
>someone enlighten me, or at least point me in right direction for more
>information?
If I'm not mistaken (and I might be) the M10 is one of the family that
includes the RS model 100, NEC 8201a, a Kyocera (I forget the model #, but K
made 'em all) and one or two others.
No floppy, what's a hard drive?, but eminently useful and probably one of
the rarer machines in the family. iirc, it had a pop-up screen, which none
of the others had.
Actually, it's an evil piece of garbage, and you should send it to me right
away. Don't hesitate, your life could be at stake! 8^)
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Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad
roger(a)sinasohn.com that none but madmen know."
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San Francisco, California http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/
Adam wrote:
> Someone near Sydney just offered me a pile of stuff, mostly old pc/xt bits.
> But in amongst it all was a Commodore 8296-d and a Sharp 1700. I imagine
> the Sharp is one of the plamtop models they produced, rather than the more
> laptop style Sharp PC-5000 - is this the case? And the Commodore I guess
> to be an 8286 with a typing mistake, and thus merely a MS-DOS clone. COuld
> someone please confirm this for me?
No, 8296 is a very late PET. I have three of them, but one lacks a
keyboard. Good old PET 8000 series architecture, although I'm told some
have a later version of BASIC. 128k of memory, but I think you can only
get at 96k + screen.
The 8296-D was the built in disk drive model. Twin floppies, DSQD, on
the GPIB internally. Uses a later version of the Commodore DOS software
than I have docs for :-( (Commodore disk drives all had a CPU in the
drive unit that ran a system they called DOS and communicated with the
system unit over the GPIB or the later VIC/64 interface)
My advice to you: GRAB IT!!!!!!!
Philip.
PS I once found an 8296D in the skip at work. I asked to buy it and was
told officially no, not safe, PSU is playing up but unofficially I could
grab a few parts if need be. I did and upgraded my (then only) 8296 to
the D spec. It cost me _more_ to do the upgrade than it would have to
repair the original machine. I was not pleased...
Someone near Sydney just offered me a pile of stuff, mostly old pc/xt bits.
But in amongst it all was a Commodore 8296-d and a Sharp 1700. I imagine
the Sharp is one of the plamtop models they produced, rather than the more
laptop style Sharp PC-5000 - is this the case? And the Commodore I guess
to be an 8286 with a typing mistake, and thus merely a MS-DOS clone. COuld
someone please confirm this for me?
Thanks heaps,
Adam.
At 08:20 PM 12/23/97 -0800, you wrote:
>As far as I know the 800k Apple drive you have described can only be used
>on a Mac Plus or better. Or a modified 512k. I really doubt that it will
>work with a //c. I could be wrong...
I had my Apple 800k running on my 512k, which started out as a 128k.
- John Higginbotham
- limbo.netpath.net
I picked up two macs today for $15 total.
the first one is a mac 512 and the second is a mac+ 1meg. both are missing
their mouses but they do work just fine. I also got two external 800k
floppies. One is called mirror magnum 800, but doesnt recognize a working
floppy. the second one is called an apple external 800 drive, but i've never
seen one quite like this. it's a bit smaller than the apple 3.5 drive, and
doesnt have the stripes molded in and does not have an eject button either,
only the hole to push a paper clip wire in. can this drive be used on a //c or
similar? current plans for these macs will be to take the best parts of two
512k macs and make one good one with the remainder going to my brother for a
macquarium project. <!> I already own a platinum colour se and this one i just
got is a 1meg beige colour se. is there any significant differences between
these two se models?
david