11 Feb
2013
11 Feb
'13
4:53 p.m.
Hi Folks,
I just heard that the Spare Time Gizmos SBC6120 partial kit is being offered as a
Kickstarter project:
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/sparetimegizmos/classic-pdp8-replica
There are just 12-days left until the project expires. It currently has 11 of 30 slots
filled.
Only 30-slots are available and all must be filled for the project to be funded.
I have signed up for one, so I'm hoping that it goes forward!
Steve L.
12 Feb
12 Feb
7:25 a.m.
On 12/02/2013, at 8:53 AM, Steve Lafferty <steve at tronola.com> wrote:
Hi Folks,
I just heard that the Spare Time Gizmos SBC6120 partial kit is being offered as a
Kickstarter project:
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/sparetimegizmos/classic-pdp8-replica
I would have signed up (as I've wanted one for a long while) but it's US only :-(
Huw Davies | e-mail: Huw.Davies at kerberos.davies.net.au
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13 Feb
13 Feb
5:24 p.m.
In article <201302112153.r1BLrqIE031670 at mx1.ezwind.net>,
Steve Lafferty <steve at tronola.com> writes:
Funded.
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14 Feb
14 Feb
12:06 p.m.
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Richard <legalize at xmission.com> wrote:
And now fully funded. When I woke up there were two left. By the
time I had breakfast together and sat down at a proper Internet
device, there were none.
Eh, I was never going to get around to building it anyway :)
Congrats to all who scored one.
j
12:25 p.m.
Eh, I was never going to get around to building it
anyway :)
It's worth checking back now and then. It might not be widely known, but
it is possible to cancel your Kickstarter pledge up until the time project
closes. Two people have cancelled already and their units got snapped up by
others in short order.
Bob
1:41 p.m.
On 2/14/2013 10:25 AM, Bob Armstrong wrote:
I'dtake a PDP 11 kit from the wish list.
Ben.
PS. How is kickstarter different from the old way?
Email me XX orders and I will consider making it,
payment in advance.
Eh, I was
never going to get around to building it anyway :)
It's worth checking back now and then. It might not be widely known, but
it is possible to cancel your Kickstarter pledge up until the time project
closes. Two people have cancelled already and their units got snapped up by
others in short order.
Bob
3:03 p.m.
On Feb 14, 2013, at 1:41 PM, ben <bfranchuk at jetnet.ab.ca> wrote:
On 2/14/2013 10:25 AM, Bob Armstrong wrote:
I'dtake a PDP 11 kit from the wish list.
Ben.
PS. How is kickstarter different from the old way?
Email me XX orders and I will consider making it,
payment in advance.
Because it's not exactly payment in advance; Amazon's system
will place a hold on your credit card, but the hold comes off
if the project doesn't make its goal. If the project makes
its goal, the charge goes through.
In short, it's not that different from "the old way" aside
Eh, I was
never going to get around to building it anyway :)
It's worth checking back now and then. It might not be widely known, but
it is possible to cancel your Kickstarter pledge up until the time project
closes. Two people have cancelled already and their units got snapped up by
others in short order.
Bob
from the fact that it's far more automated. It
also presents
more hurdles to the project leader; among other things,
Kickstarter requires you to make a video, which is one of the
major things that has kept me from putting any of my pet
projects that need to be built in quantity up there (yes, I
know that's "lazy", but it's also beyond my skillset and
rather demanding of my limited free time).
- Dave
4:35 p.m.
David Riley wrote:
Kickstarter requires you to make a video,
FWIW, they don't actually require a video (I don't have one, for example)
but they will strongly encourage you to make one. The Kickstarter project
review process is negotiable - you'll get a list of things they don't like,
and you discuss it with them. Some of 'em you fix, and some of them
Kickstarter will agree to overlook.
Bob
7:05 p.m.
On Thu, 14 Feb 2013, Bob Armstrong wrote:
When I did the P112 Kickstarter project, they wanted me to do a video
before they'd approve the project.
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David Riley
wrote:
Kickstarter requires you to make a video,
FWIW, they don't actually require a video (I don't have one, for example)
but they will strongly encourage you to make one. The Kickstarter project
review process is negotiable - you'll get a list of things they don't like,
and you discuss it with them. Some of 'em you fix, and some of them
Kickstarter will agree to overlook.
4:32 p.m.
PS. How is kickstarter different from the old way?
Email me XX orders and I will consider making it, payment in advance.
"Payment in advance" was always a problem because services like PayPal
specifically prohibit taking payment in advance for a product you can't
ship. Also having a large influx of money in a short period of time is a
recipe for getting your PayPal account frozen, which leaves you in a world
of hurt. Yeah, I'm sure you can come up with examples that violate that
rule, but PayPal is nothing if not inconsistent.
I was willing to front the money myself, but "email me XX orders" also was
a problem. After having done it several times, I can say that only about
50% of the people who say "sign me up" will actually cough up the cash when
the time comes. The only safe thing from my point of view was to take the
airline approach - sell twice as many tickets as you actually have seats.
Of course that leads to unhappy customers, and, well, you know how that
goes...
Kickstarter solves both those problems. It brings its own set of issues,
of course, but I decided to give it a try.
Bob
4:54 p.m.
It seems to be working quite well for you for this run of SBC6120/FP6120 kits. Any chance
you'll revive any of your other products using Kickstarter once you're done with
this one?
On Feb 14, 2013, at 4:32 PM, "Bob Armstrong" <bob at jfcl.com> wrote:
PS. How is
kickstarter different from the old way?
Email me XX orders and I will consider making it, payment in advance.
"Payment in advance" was always a problem because services like PayPal
specifically prohibit taking payment in advance for a product you can't
ship. Also having a large influx of money in a short period of time is a
recipe for getting your PayPal account frozen, which leaves you in a world
of hurt. Yeah, I'm sure you can come up with examples that violate that
rule, but PayPal is nothing if not inconsistent.
I was willing to front the money myself, but "email me XX orders" also was
a problem. After having done it several times, I can say that only about
50% of the people who say "sign me up" will actually cough up the cash when
the time comes. The only safe thing from my point of view was to take the
airline approach - sell twice as many tickets as you actually have seats.
Of course that leads to unhappy customers, and, well, you know how that
goes...
Kickstarter solves both those problems. It brings its own set of issues,
of course, but I decided to give it a try.
Bob
8:06 p.m.
On 2/14/2013 2:54 PM, David Betz wrote:
It seems to be working quite well for you for this run
of
SBC6120/FP6120 kits. Any chance you'll revive any of your other
products using Kickstarter once you're done with this one?
My gripe with kickstarter, is no preview feature.
I would like to know of projects a good year in advance,
since money and time can vanish quite soon, often a day
or two before I find a interesting project.
Ben.
PS. A comic book sized e-reader ( 13x19 cm ) screen size
for PDF's in the $200 range would be good idea for 2010+,
once one thinks of something that is not a 1970's era project.
8:30 p.m.
In article <511D8A0E.9040108 at jetnet.ab.ca>,
ben <bfranchuk at jetnet.ab.ca> writes:
My gripe with kickstarter, is no preview feature.
My gripe with kickstarter is that noone wants to fund my projects
designed around a 40-pin DIP Z80 with large amounts of associated glue
logic in DIP packages for a board kit cost of $250 or more.
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15 Feb
15 Feb
1:12 a.m.
Richard <legalize at xmission.com> wrote:
My gripe with kickstarter is that noone wants to fund
my projects
designed around a 40-pin DIP Z80 with large amounts of associated glue
logic in DIP packages for a board kit cost of $250 or more.
Which is doing waht with all the glue?
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