29 Aug
2011
29 Aug
'11
10:43 a.m.
Talking about preservation of old stuff ...
Anybody know what happened to them? Not reachable for a while already.
Cheers
29 Aug
29 Aug
11:52 a.m.
any good archival project should offer a service of the cost of a drive and
shipping gets u everything in the archive or something to that affect blam
ensures its survives even when it goes down
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 12:43 PM, emanuel stiebler <emu at e-bbes.com> wrote:
Talking about preservation of old stuff ...
Anybody know what happened to them? Not reachable for a while already.
Cheers
12:07 p.m.
On Mon, 29 Aug 2011, Adrian Stoness wrote:
any good archival project should offer a service of
the cost of a drive and
shipping gets u everything in the archive or something to that affect blam
ensures its survives even when it goes down
...and who is going to pay for the personnel required to spend time
copying those hard disks?
FYI, "u" is a letter, not a literate persons' replacement for the word
"you".
*waves his cane*
g.
[...and yes, the apostrophe might be in the wrong spot.]
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by the clean end.
1:31 p.m.
FYI,
"u" is a letter, not a literate persons' replacement for the word
"you".
*waves his cane*
Damn whippersnappers. :) 
12:32 p.m.
but is preserved :)
http://web.archive.org/web/20090228235001/http://www.mess.org/
Dave Caroline
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 6:43 PM, emanuel stiebler <emu at e-bbes.com> wrote:
Talking about preservation of old stuff ...
Anybody know what happened to them? Not reachable for a while already.
Cheers
8:52 a.m.
On 30/08/2011 16:36, "Sridhar Ayengar" <ploopster at gmail.com> wrote:
Chuck Guzis wrote:
I, I, I...
(Newcastle?) Y-I.
Peace... Sridhar
I'm from Newcastle, whey aye!
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5:41 a.m.
On Mon, 29 Aug 2011, Adrian Stoness wrote:
people bitching about my use of u
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Fred Cisin <cisin at xenosoft.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Aug 2011, Adrian Stoness wrote:
>> WTF?
>
> context?
>
> or just on general principles?
>
Stop top posting and we'll discuss it. :D
g.
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http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project
Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies.
ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!
Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical
minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which
holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd
by the clean end.
10:39 a.m.
and that means what?
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 7:41 AM, Gene Buckle <geneb at deltasoft.com> wrote:
On Mon, 29 Aug 2011, Adrian Stoness wrote:
people bitching about my use of u
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Fred Cisin <cisin at xenosoft.com> wrote:
On Mon, 29 Aug 2011, Adrian Stoness wrote:
>
>> WTF?
>>
>
> context?
>
> or just on general principles?
>
>
Stop top posting and we'll discuss it. :D
g.
--
Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project
Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies.
ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!
Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical
minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which
holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd
by the clean end.
10:53 a.m.
On Tue, 30 Aug 2011, Adrian Stoness wrote:
and that means what?
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 7:41 AM, Gene Buckle <geneb at deltasoft.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Aug 2011, Adrian Stoness wrote:
>
> people bitching about my use of u
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Fred Cisin <cisin at xenosoft.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 29 Aug 2011, Adrian Stoness wrote:
>>>
>>>> WTF?
>>>>
>>>
>>> context?
>>>
>>> or just on general principles?
>>>
>>>
> Stop top posting and we'll discuss it. :D
>
It means your reading comprehension skills are sub-par.
http://www.caliburn.nl/topposting.html
g.
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http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project
Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies.
ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!
Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical
minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which
holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd
by the clean end.
31 Aug
31 Aug
8:31 a.m.
In article <alpine.LFD.2.00.1108301052490.9603 at grumble.deltasoft.com>,
Gene Buckle <geneb at deltasoft.com> writes:
It means your reading comprehension skills are
sub-par.
And his google skills are nil.
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1:03 p.m.
It means your
reading comprehension skills are sub-par.
And his google skills are nil.
1:13 p.m.
On Wed, 31 Aug 2011, Fred Cisin wrote:
When I was his age, I had no Google skills at all.
But, if Dave vouchs for him, then we shouldn't mistreat him any more than
we mistreat Dave. We can probably eventually teach him to be just like
us!
It would be more fun if we just beat up Dave more often. :)
g.
--
Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project
Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies.
ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!
Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical
minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which
holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd
by the clean end.
It means your reading comprehension skills are
sub-par.
And his google skills are nil. 
2:05 p.m.
On 08/31/2011 04:13 PM, Gene Buckle wrote:
HEY! I am NOT a fan of this idea!
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
Port Charlotte, FL
But, if Dave
vouchs for him, then we shouldn't mistreat him any more than
we mistreat Dave. We can probably eventually teach him to be just like
us!
It would be more fun if we just beat up Dave more often. :)
2:49 p.m.
On Wed, 31 Aug 2011, Dave McGuire wrote:
On 08/31/2011 04:13 PM, Gene Buckle wrote:
HEY! I am NOT a fan of this idea!
Now you just shush. We're discussing your fate and can't be interrupted.
:)
g.
--
Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project
Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies.
ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!
Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical
minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which
holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd
by the clean end.
But, if
Dave vouchs for him, then we shouldn't mistreat him any more than
we mistreat Dave. We can probably eventually teach him to be just like
us!
It would be more fun if we just beat up Dave more often. :)
2:55 p.m.
On 08/31/2011 05:49 PM, Gene Buckle wrote:
HEY! I am NOT a fan of this idea!
Now you just shush. We're discussing your fate and can't be interrupted.
:)
HEY!! 8-<
--
Dave McGuire
Port Charlotte, FL
But, if Dave
vouchs for him, then we shouldn't mistreat him any more
than
we mistreat Dave. We can probably eventually teach him to be just like
us!
It would be more fun if we just beat up Dave more often. :) 
9:34 a.m.
On Sep 1, 2011, at 11:06 AM, "Alexandre Souza - Listas" <pu1bzz.listas at
gmail.com> wrote:
Nah, suits and rabid Microsoft fanboys (between which there is a substantial overlap)
usually don't, because they tend to dislike people who publicly expose either
treachery or stupidity. And I'm just fine with that. :)
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
Port Charlotte, FL
HEY!! 8-<
Everybody loves Dave :) 
9:52 a.m.
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 9:34 AM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
?Nah, suits and rabid Microsoft fanboys (between which there is a substantial overlap)
usually don't, because they tend to dislike people who publicly expose either
treachery or stupidity. ?And I'm just fine with that. :)
? ? ? ? ? ? ?-Dave
I haven't noticed many "rabid Microsoft fanboys" on this list, while
Dave is just plain rabid :)
-Glen
10 a.m.
On Sep 1, 2011, at 12:52 PM, Glen Slick <glen.slick at gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 9:34 AM, Dave McGuire
<mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
Oh, there are definitely one or two. I'll be nice today, though. ;)
Nah, suits and rabid Microsoft fanboys (between which there is a substantial overlap)
usually don't, because they tend to dislike people who publicly expose either
treachery or stupidity. And I'm just fine with that. :)
I haven't noticed many "rabid Microsoft fanboys" on this list, while Dave is just plain rabid :)
Too true!
-Dave
--
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Port Charlotte, FL
10:48 a.m.
gues i could load up my copy of magic spell for the heathkit........
anyhow goes back to figuring out my asr33's paper tape reader so i can boot
my pdp8a with my jerrel-ash tapes
http://www.flickr.com/photos/1ajs/6089172843/sizes/l/in/photostream/
7:49 p.m.
New subject: Adrian's PDP-8 paper tapes, was Re: mess.org
On 09/01/2011 01:48 PM, Adrian Stoness wrote:
anyhow goes back to figuring out my asr33's paper
tape reader so i can boot
my pdp8a with my jerrel-ash tapes
http://www.flickr.com/photos/1ajs/6089172843/sizes/l/in/photostream/
Hey, what's the company name on those tapes? Are you able to make
binary images of them?
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
Port Charlotte, FL
8:25 p.m.
New subject: Adrian's PDP-8 paper tapes, was Re: mess.org
jerrel-ash
i have no idea how to make binaries would love to know how to make them and
turn them into tapes though havent figured out the teletype for tapes yet
but i do have a heathkit h10 that works if one could walk me through that
thing i would be happy to do it
http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/1291/boxus.jpg
ps i've been a dec head since i was stuffing penies in the rainbow 100 way
back in 1989
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 9:49 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 09/01/2011 01:48 PM, Adrian Stoness wrote:
anyhow goes back to figuring out my asr33's
paper tape reader so i can
boot
my pdp8a with my jerrel-ash tapes
http://www.flickr.com/photos/**1ajs/6089172843/sizes/l/in/**photostream/<…
Hey, what's the company name on those tapes? Are you able to make binary
images of them?
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
Port Charlotte, FL
11:12 p.m.
New subject: Adrian's PDP-8 paper tapes, was Re: mess.org
On 09/01/2011 11:25 PM, Adrian Stoness wrote:
jerrel-ash
i have no idea how to make binaries would love to know how to make them and
turn them into tapes though havent figured out the teletype for tapes yet
but i do have a heathkit h10 that works if one could walk me through that
thing i would be happy to do it
I've never used an H10, but if we can get your ASR-33 working,
especially getting it talking to a modern-ish machine, we might be able
to do it with that.
Hey wait a minute...That big "F" design on the paper tape labels,
that looks like the Fisher Scientific logo. Is it?
ps i've been a dec head since i was stuffing
penies in the rainbow 100 way
back in 1989
*snicker*
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
Port Charlotte, FL
11:48 p.m.
New subject: Adrian's PDP-8 paper tapes, was Re: mess.org
sure is a fisher logo and i got a nice pile of brochures and other cool
stuff to boot
http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/9946/atomcomps.jpg
this was kinda neat to find in the pile of stuff i got with it including the
teletype corispondance's with the sales people
http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/3863/atom005.jpg
http://img803.imageshack.us/img803/2973/atom004.jpg
the h10 uses a parelel port instead of searial.
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 1:12 AM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 09/01/2011 11:25 PM, Adrian Stoness wrote:
Hey wait a minute...That big "F" design on the paper tape labels, that
looks like the Fisher Scientific logo. Is it?
ps i've been a dec head since i was stuffing penies in the rainbow 100 way
> back in 1989
*snicker*
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
Port Charlotte, FL
jerrel-ash
i have no idea how to make binaries would love to know how to make them
and
turn them into tapes though havent figured out the teletype for tapes yet
but i do have a heathkit h10 that works if one could walk me through that
thing i would be happy to do it
I've never used an H10, but if we can get your ASR-33 working, especially
getting it talking to a modern-ish machine, we might be able to do it with
that.
http://img853.imageshack.us/**img853/1291/boxus.jpg<http://img853.images…
31 Aug
31 Aug
2:04 p.m.
On 08/31/2011 04:03 PM, Fred Cisin wrote:
When I was his age, I had no Google skills at all.
But, if Dave vouchs for him, then we shouldn't mistreat him any more than
we mistreat Dave. We can probably eventually teach him to be just like
us!
Personally, I think you shouldn't mistreat either of us at all, but
that's just me! ;)
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
Port Charlotte, FL
It means your reading comprehension skills are
sub-par.
And his google skills are nil. 
30 Aug
30 Aug
11 a.m.
Adrian Stoness wrote:
and that means what?
You see how my text is below yours? That's the way it should be. You
are putting your text above the text to which you are replying.
Peace... Sridhar
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 7:41 AM, Gene Buckle<geneb
at deltasoft.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Aug 2011, Adrian Stoness wrote:
>
> people bitching about my use of u
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Fred Cisin<cisin at xenosoft.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 29 Aug 2011, Adrian Stoness wrote:
>>>
>>>> WTF?
>>>>
>>>
>>> context?
>>>
>>> or just on general principles?
>>>
>>>
> Stop top posting and we'll discuss it. :D
>
> g.
11:52 a.m.
Sridhar Ayengar wrote:
Adrian Stoness wrote:
Agreed... although ordering is a funny thing - someone should really tell
US road maintainers so that they cease writing things like "ahead stop" on
their roads ;-)
and that means what?
You see how my text is below yours? That's the way it should be. You
are putting your text above the text to which you are replying.
12:07 p.m.
On 08/30/2011 08:41 AM, Gene Buckle wrote:
Oh good grief, stop picking on the kid. Please remember he's about
half the age of most everyone on here, and the whole illiteracy thing is
pretty common (if not ubiquitous) in his generation.
I vouch for Adrian's coolness and great potential. I know him from
another list (8-bit Heathkit stuff) and I'm the one who suggested that
he join us here.
(ObHint: the 'u' crap drives me ape shit as well ;))
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
Port Charlotte, FL
people
bitching about my use of u
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Fred Cisin <cisin at xenosoft.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Aug 2011, Adrian Stoness wrote:
>> WTF?
>
> context?
>
> or just on general principles?
>
Stop top posting and we'll discuss it. :D 
31 Aug
31 Aug
1:45 a.m.
On Tue, 30 Aug 2011, Dave McGuire wrote:
On 08/30/2011 08:41 AM, Gene Buckle wrote:
Oh good grief, stop picking on the kid. Please remember he's about half
the age of most everyone on here, and the whole illiteracy thing is pretty
common (if not ubiquitous) in his generation.
I vouch for Adrian's coolness and great potential. I know him from another
list (8-bit Heathkit stuff) and I'm the one who suggested that he join us
here.
(ObHint: the 'u' crap drives me ape shit as well ;))
No criticism, just a note: don't forget the non-native speakers on this
(international!) list, they might get a bit confused by too much
unusual orthography and/or grammar.
Christian
people
bitching about my use of u
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Fred Cisin <cisin at xenosoft.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Aug 2011, Adrian Stoness wrote:
>> WTF?
>
> context?
>
> or just on general principles?
>
Stop top posting and we'll discuss it. :D
11:17 a.m.
sadly english is my native language
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Alexandre Souza - Listas <
pu1bzz.listas at gmail.com> wrote:
No criticism, just a note: don't forget the
non-native speakers on this
(international!) list, they might get a bit
confused by too much unusual
orthography and/or grammar.
\o/ I'm here :o)
12:41 p.m.
On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 13:17:52 -0500
Adrian Stoness <tdk.knight at gmail.com> wrote:
sadly english is my native language
That is the
reason why you should try _very_hard_ to write correct
english. Keep in mind that you are a teacher. You, as a native englich
speaker, are teaching me english. You do this even if you don't want.
I learned most of my english through conversations on mailing lists like
this one. You are representing your native language. At the moment, you
don't do it a favor. To put it polite.
It is very poor when a non-native english speaker talks / writes better
english then you. At least I would be ashamed when an english men talks
better German then I.
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