8 Feb
2021
8 Feb
'21
2:53 p.m.
If you search ebay for "DEC RK11-C Disk Controller", you'll find a listing
of a backplane of flipchip cards, but it's not like any RK11-C I have ever
seen. Am I right, this is a mis-labeled auction?
Bill
8 Feb
8 Feb
3:14 p.m.
It looks like it could be an RK11-C.? Are you possibly thinking of the
RK11-D which fits in a BA11 chassis?
TTFN - Guy
On 2/8/21 2:53 PM, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote:
If you search ebay for "DEC RK11-C Disk
Controller", you'll find a listing
of a backplane of flipchip cards, but it's not like any RK11-C I have ever
seen. Am I right, this is a mis-labeled auction?
Bill
--
TTFN - Guy
3:17 p.m.
I suppose I am...
On Mon, Feb 8, 2021, 6:14 PM Guy Sotomayor via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
wrote:
It looks like it could be an RK11-C. Are you possibly
thinking of the
RK11-D which fits in a BA11 chassis?
TTFN - Guy
On 2/8/21 2:53 PM, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote:
If you search ebay for "DEC RK11-C Disk
Controller", you'll find a
listing
of a backplane of flipchip cards, but it's
not like any RK11-C I have
ever
seen. Am I right, this is a mis-labeled
auction?
Bill
--
TTFN - Guy
3:16 p.m.
On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 5:53 PM Bill Degnan via cctalk
<cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
If you search ebay for "DEC RK11-C Disk
Controller", you'll find a listing
of a backplane of flipchip cards, but it's not like any RK11-C I have ever
seen. Am I right, this is a mis-labeled auction?
It seems to match fairly well with the module layout for the standard
(non-double-buffered) RK11-C at
http://gunkies.org/wiki/RK11-C_disk_controller
(slot 1 on the right)
I can't recall mine to a high amount of detail, but that looks about right.
The ribbon cables are a bit out of place... perhaps they were just
stuffed into empty slots to keep them from being damaged.
-ethan
6:14 p.m.
Interesting. It looks to have about half of the modules my old RK8
controller had, I wonder how they managed to shrink it down for a pdp11.
Was the data-break interface for the 8 that complicated?
C
On 2/8/2021 6:16 PM, Ethan Dicks via cctalk wrote:
On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 5:53 PM Bill Degnan via cctalk
<cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
If you search ebay for "DEC RK11-C Disk
Controller", you'll find a listing
of a backplane of flipchip cards, but it's not like any RK11-C I have ever
seen. Am I right, this is a mis-labeled auction?
It seems to match fairly well with the module layout for the standard
(non-double-buffered) RK11-C at
http://gunkies.org/wiki/RK11-C_disk_controller
(slot 1 on the right)
I can't recall mine to a high amount of detail, but that looks about right.
The ribbon cables are a bit out of place... perhaps they were just
stuffed into empty slots to keep them from being damaged.
-ethan
7:21 p.m.
Yup, RK11-C, and it seems complete (modulo drive cables and terminators.) I have one
debugged and running in my '11/45, so I know it well.
On Feb 8, 2021, at 3:16 PM, Ethan Dicks via cctalk
<cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
The ribbon cables are a bit out of place... perhaps they were just
stuffed into empty slots to keep them from being damaged.
The cables are actually in the correct slots -- they connect A30 and B30 to the
pass-through connectors to support plugging in a pair of KM11s from the outside of the
rack for debug.
On nice thing about this controller is that it supports "Read/Write All" mode,
which lets you read or write the raw bitstream including block headers. This can be
useful for disk recovery if you have a corrupted block header, or for reading/writing
"foreign" disks (within limits). This is controlled by bit 9 in the CSR, which
is unimplemented on the later controllers.
--FritzM.
9:37 p.m.
On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 10:22 PM Fritz Mueller via cctalk
<cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
Ah... handy. I don't recall if mine has those or not. I do have a
replica KM-11 set that I need to construct. It will definitely come
in handy.
Yup, RK11-C, and it seems complete (modulo drive
cables and terminators.) I have
one debugged and running in my '11/45, so I know it well.
I've had one for years but I haven't tried working on it yet.
On Feb 8,
2021, at 3:16 PM, Ethan Dicks via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
The ribbon cables are a bit out of place... perhaps they were just
stuffed into empty slots to keep them from being damaged.
The cables are actually in the correct slots -- they connect A30 and B30 to the
pass-through connectors to support plugging in a pair of KM11s from the
outside of the rack for debug. On nice thing about this controller is that it
supports "Read/Write All" mode, which
lets you read or write the raw bitstream including block headers. This can be useful
for disk recovery if you have a corrupted block header, or for reading/writing
"foreign"
disks (within limits). This is controlled by bit 9 in the CSR, which is unimplemented
on
the later controllers.
Interesting. Did not know that. I don't know that I've ever had a
corrupt disk that I needed to read, but it's good to know that feature
exists.
-ethan
9 Feb
9 Feb
1:46 a.m.
I have two backplanes and a diablo drive if anyone is interested.
Paul
On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 11:38 PM Ethan Dicks via cctalk <
cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 10:22 PM Fritz Mueller via
cctalk
<cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
to the
Yup, RK11-C, and it seems complete (modulo drive
cables and
terminators.) I have
one debugged and running in my '11/45, so I
know it well.
I've had one for years but I haven't tried working on it yet.
> On Feb 8, 2021, at 3:16 PM, Ethan Dicks via
cctalk <
cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
The
ribbon cables are a bit out of place... perhaps they were just
stuffed into empty slots to keep them from being damaged.
The cables are actually in the correct slots -- they connect A30 and B30 pass-through connectors to support plugging in a
pair of KM11s from the
outside of the rack for debug.
Ah... handy. I don't recall if mine has those or not. I do have a
replica KM-11 set that I need to construct. It will definitely come
in handy.
On nice thing about this controller is that it
supports "Read/Write All"
mode, which
lets you read or write the raw bitstream
including block headers. This
can be useful
for disk recovery if you have a corrupted block
header, or for
reading/writing "foreign"
disks (within limits). This is controlled by bit
9 in the CSR, which is
unimplemented on
the later controllers.
Interesting. Did not know that. I don't know that I've ever had a
corrupt disk that I needed to read, but it's good to know that feature
exists.
-ethan
7:50 a.m.
On 02/08/2021 11:37 PM, Ethan Dicks via cctalk wrote:
On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 10:22 PM Fritz Mueller via
cctalk
<cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
The write all function is likely how you format a blank pack.
Jon
On nice thing about this controller is that it
supports "Read/Write All" mode, which
lets you read or write the raw bitstream including block headers. This can be useful
for disk recovery if you have a corrupted block header, or for reading/writing
"foreign"
disks (within limits). This is controlled by bit 9 in the CSR, which is unimplemented
on
the later controllers.
Interesting. Did not know that. I don't know that
I've ever had a
corrupt disk that I needed to read, but it's good to know that feature
exists.
-ethan
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