In article <43E197BE.6010506 at gmail.com>, Sridhar Ayengar <ploopster at gmail.com> writes: So apparently they're not hard to come by :) -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline"-- code samples, sample chapter, FAQ: <http://www.xmission.com/~legalize/book/> Pilgrimage: Utah's annual demoparty <http://pilgrimage.scene.org>

In article <43E2099A.5080206 at gmail.com>, Sridhar Ayengar <ploopster at gmail.com> writes: . Do you particularly care what graphics they are running? Or do you just take 'em with whatever they have. At some point I'd like to get one of these with a nice 3D graphics option installed. When that time comes, I'd like to know what's commonly in them as far as graphics options are concerned. -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline"-- code samples, sample chapter, FAQ: <http://www.xmission.com/~legalize/book/> Pilgrimage: Utah's annual demoparty <http://pilgrimage.scene.org>

Richard wrote: http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/intellistation/power/285/index.html ;) Seriously, prior to the 7043-150, a GXT800 is a good, reasonably fast 3D option. The GXT550 and GXT500 are OK, but a PITA to administer. For the 7043-150 and later, a GXT2000P is about minimum for "nice 3D". The GXT130P is ironically usually more expensive on the used market, and it sucks mightily for 3D. It's effectively a Matrox G200 PCI with DMA disabled. I run a GXT3000P in my 7043-260, and it's about as good as I need. Fast 2D, decent 3D, and can be had for less than $75USD. The GXT4500, GXT6500, etc, are stupid expensive. I teach AIX classes some, and my boss worked for IBM for many years, so we have "friends" on the Austin IBM campus. I once got to play Quake3 on an 8-way p690 with 16GB RAM. It was.... Ehhh. I'm not much of a gamer. But the brag factor was not to be passed up. Doc

Cameron Kaiser wrote: Nope. There are a bunch of machines made by Groupe Bull that run a customized AIX. Peace... Sridhar

Cameron Kaiser wrote: Mostly onboard peripherals. And chipset stuff. The machine is different enough to require a customized OS image. But, the PReP RS/6000's aren't all that different from a Mac. Hell, the CHRP RS/6000's aren't unrecognizable to a Mac OS hacker. Peace... Sridhar

Doc Shipley wrote: Oh yeah. I forgot about those. Peace... Sridhar

Zane H. Healy wrote: Nope. They're pretty standard AIX-based servers. Peace... Sridhar

Zane H. Healy wrote: Did you try plugging it in? Seriously, it's not *exactly* PeeCee PS/2, but your PC won't notice the difference. Best keyboards in the biz, baybee. It was worth finding a USB-PS/2 dobgle that really works so I can use one on my G5. Doc

At 1:34 AM -0600 2/2/06, Doc Shipley wrote: When the RS/6000-370 on my desk was replaced with a IBM PC running Linux I tried it, but didn't have any luck. I'll have to see if I can get it working on my new systems. There are at least two of us that are wanting to use them (though I think I'm the only person that's hung onto their keyboard, the other person is looking for one). You have it working on your G5!?!? Of course I'm still running my Apple Extended II Keyboard via a USB-ADB converter :^) Zane -- -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh at aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | MONK::HEALYZH (DECnet) | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |

At 8:36 AM -0800 2/2/06, Cameron Kaiser wrote: Something tells me that this is a fairly popular configuration with long-time Mac users. I used the keyboard that came with my G4/450 AGP for exactly 3 days till I could get the converter. It was three of the worst days of my life, as the original G4's shipped with that pathetic keyboard that was on the original iMac's. I didn't even try the keyboard that came with my G5, I simply set it aside. I do use it now, but on my work laptop, and only then because I don't have a better USB keyboard around. Mice are where I've had real problems once I switched to Mac OS X. First I was using a semi-acceptable mouse that shipped with HP Itanium 2 Workstations, now I'm using an IBM optical mouse (seems appropriate since I'm using my G5 keyboard on a Thinkpad). What I really want is a mouse like the classic Logitech mouse that shipped with most workstations in the late 90's. I've thought about getting a PS/2-to-USB converter to try and hook one up, but have kind of become hooked on the scroll-wheel for my Mac. Zane -- -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh at aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | MONK::HEALYZH (DECnet) | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |

On Thu, 2 Feb 2006, Zane H. Healy wrote: I never had much luck using a PS2 keyboard + USB converter on my G4 tower. Any particular brands which seem to work better than others? Any which map to the Apple / Command keys? Steve

On Thu, Feb 02, 2006 at 12:59:27PM -0500, Patrick Finnegan wrote: Actually, I found one right under my fingertips as I was typing this reply. But, you've made me curious. I just might try e-mailing you off-list. It would be nice to have a few more Model M's around. Kevin http://www.RawFedDogs.net http://www.WacoAgilityGroup.org Bruceville, TX

Doc Shipley wrote: It wouldn't work with the IBM MPro that I had (Dual CPU Pentium II), however, it seems to work with my current systems (IBM Thinkpad and an HP box, they're connected via a Cybex KVM). So far no issues, though I think my wrists are going to need to get used to using it again. One of these days I need to pick one of those up to experiment with. Though how on earth do you get the extra Apple keys on an IBM keyboard? I used a *lot* of different keyboards prior to the Apple Extended II Keyboard. It has a very nice solid feel to it, and I've been using it now for 9 years (three Mac's). In my case, I don't think it's a "where you came from" thing, I simply like the way it feels, and they way it sits on my desk. A *assume* what I'm using is an iMate. There are a couple of things that require a modern Apple USB keyboard, but that's only if you're trying to enter keycodes during startup. For that I simply hook the keyboard that came with it up to the front. I don't remember having any such issues with my G4. The other thing is F12 (I think that's right) ejects the CD. Zane

Patrick Finnegan wrote: Both my wrists are wrecked from motorcycles and drilling rigs. Logitech Marble is the ONLY way to fly. Doc

Teo Zenios wrote: Mmmm, Cheet-Os! You're right about the optical smoothness, which is why I like the Marble. It does need cleaning every couple of months, but it's worth it to avoid the wrist movement of a normal mouse. ObCC: And it works perfectly with RS/6000s, SGIs, NeXTstations, SPARC (with adapter), AXP, Mac, and even PeeCees! Doc

Richard wrote: That's not the only one. There were the POWER GXT series. Some of the 3D ones had quite a bit of speed. Peace... Sridhar

On Wed, 1 Feb 2006, Zane H. Healy wrote: To the best of my knowledge, the only difference between an RS6K and PC/AT style keyboard is the presence of an internal speaker on the former. Steve

Other than the physical connector, what's the differnce between a PS/2 and a PC/AT keyboard? -tony

On Thu, 2 Feb 2006, Sridhar Ayengar wrote: Hmm. Never tripped over this, then. After an office move at work, I called the service folks to figure out why the internal speaker on my Risc 390H had stopped working. Yes, you guessed it, I had crossed up the keyboards between my Intel box and the RS/6K. If there were scan-code differences, I never encountered them. Steve

In article <200602020847.28308.lbickley at bickleywest.com>, Lyle Bickley <lbickley at bickleywest.com> writes: He made it for a visualization symposium at the UofU, probably around 1994/1995 time frame. I've been trying to get him to send me the source code for years, I don't know if its even accessible at this point, but I'll prod him again and see what happens :-). -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline"-- code samples, sample chapter, FAQ: <http://www.xmission.com/~legalize/book/> Pilgrimage: Utah's annual demoparty <http://pilgrimage.scene.org>