23 Aug
2016
23 Aug
'16
5:03 p.m.
Halt and Catch Fire Tonight
Halt and Catch Fire Tonight
premiere of season showing episode 1 and 2 both!
thx - Ed#
7:52 a.m.
Cool. I supplied all of the magazines (1986) covers for this season. Look
on the office tables, etc. I have these available (images not the actual
mags) if anyone else wants them. Let me know privately.
Bill
On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 10:45 AM, <ethan at 757.org> wrote:
Halt and Catch Fire Tonight
Halt and Catch Fire Tonight
premiere of season showing episode 1 and 2 both!
thx - Ed#
The tech timeline is so off :-(
Mr. Robot is doing a better job of getting tech facts done well.
--
Ethan O'Toole
8:50 a.m.
Cool. I supplied all of the magazines (1986) covers
for this season. Look
on the office tables, etc. I have these available (images not the actual
mags) if anyone else wants them. Let me know privately.
Bill
Awesome!!!!
I just did some research and I guess the Amiga was coming out at the time.
But V.22 wasn't a competitor to HST! :-)
Pretty wild that retro computers are such a thing now that prime time TV
shows are based around it.
--
Ethan O'Toole
9:06 a.m.
On 8/24/2016 10:50 AM, ethan at 757.org wrote:
I don't think it's the retro computers
that are the subject, but rather,
the pioneering efforts and often
flamboyant personalities involved.
- John
Cool. I
supplied all of the
magazines (1986) covers for this
season. Look
on the office tables, etc. I have
these available (images not the actual
mags) if anyone else wants them. Let
me know privately.
Bill
Awesome!!!!
I just did some research and I guess
the Amiga was coming out at the time.
But V.22 wasn't a competitor to HST! :-)
Pretty wild that retro computers are
such a thing now that prime time TV
shows are based around it. 
9:52 a.m.
On Aug 24, 2016, at 11:06 AM, js at cimmeri.com
wrote:
I don't think it's the retro computers that are the subject, but rather,
the pioneering efforts and often flamboyant personalities involved.
- John
Here I was thinking it was a period drama rather than a documentary!
9:59 a.m.
On 8/24/2016 11:52 AM, Geoff Oltmans wrote:
Who said anything about it being a documentary? It's a period drama largely
based on the kinds of flamboyant personalities that pioneered much of the
personal computer industry. While retro computers are in the show, I don't
view it as being about the retro computers themselves.
- J.
On Aug 24,
2016, at 11:06 AM, js at cimmeri.com wrote:
I don't think it's the retro computers that are the subject, but rather,
the pioneering efforts and often flamboyant personalities involved.
- John
Here I was thinking it was a period drama rather than a documentary!
12:56 p.m.
On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 11:59 AM, js at cimmeri.com <js at cimmeri.com> wrote:
Not you. But several previous posters lamented about the
aprocryphal/anachronistic quality of the tech in the show.
Who said anything about it being a documentary?
It's a period drama
largely
based on the kinds of flamboyant personalities that pioneered much of the
personal computer industry. While retro computers are in the show, I don't
view it as being about the retro computers themselves.
1:28 p.m.
> Who said anything about it being a documentary?
It's a period drama
> largely based on the kinds of flamboyant personalities that pioneered
> much of the personal computer industry. While retro computers are in
> the show, I don't view it as being about the retro computers
> themselves.
On Wed, 24 Aug 2016, Geoffrey Oltmans wrote:
Not you. But several previous posters lamented about
the
aprocryphal/anachronistic quality of the tech in the show.
The problem is simply that WE are less interested in a period drama about
their perceptions of the personalities of an industry that they weren't
in. They might get them right; they might not.
What WE would like to see is a well researched show that even gets the
history right. THAT would be fun!
For example: IBM at the time (pre-DMCA, pre-Lotus "look and feel") had no
objections to aftermarket that did not copy the actual code, was
supportive of reverse-engineering, and PUBLISHED ($40) schematics and
source code. Apple, until the Lisa? and Mac was open. The secrecy of
studying the machine and the threat of legal action from IBM was contrary
to the current corporate cultures.
The original culture clash of DRI and IBM would make a GREAT scene!
(MUCH better than the completely nonsensical alternate reality of billg
inventing OS and cold calling IBM in "Pirates Of The Valley")
(although admittedly, even those who experienced it have divergent
interpretations)
8:17 p.m.
Taking this forward 30+ years, Silicon Valley is a period drama that gets
significant details spot-on right - both in the gross generalizations that
are network TV and in the nuances targeted to the cognoscenti.
I work with several people who could be the template for Gilfoil. There was
recently an episode with a sub-plot about code reviews and tabs vs. white
space that was so perfect for me - and so meaningless to my non-programmer
family. My daughter works for a start-up that has been going through rounds
of financing. She is sure she has met the woman running the fictional VC
firm backing Pied Piper. Between us we see it almost more as a documentary
than a sit-com.
On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 4:28 PM, Fred Cisin <cisin at xenosoft.com> wrote:
Who said anything about it being a documentary?
It's a period drama
On Wed, 24 Aug 2016, Geoffrey Oltmans wrote:
largely
based on the kinds of flamboyant personalities that pioneered much
of the personal computer industry. While retro computers are in the show,
I don't view it as being about the retro computers themselves.
Not you. But several previous posters lamented
about the
aprocryphal/anachronistic quality of the tech in the show.
The problem is simply that WE are less interested in a period drama about
their perceptions of the personalities of an industry that they weren't
in. They might get them right; they might not.
What WE would like to see is a well researched show that even gets the
history right. THAT would be fun!
For example: IBM at the time (pre-DMCA, pre-Lotus "look and feel") had no
objections to aftermarket that did not copy the actual code, was supportive
of reverse-engineering, and PUBLISHED ($40) schematics and source code.
Apple, until the Lisa? and Mac was open. The secrecy of studying the
machine and the threat of legal action from IBM was contrary to the current
corporate cultures.
The original culture clash of DRI and IBM would make a GREAT scene!
(MUCH better than the completely nonsensical alternate reality of billg
inventing OS and cold calling IBM in "Pirates Of The Valley")
(although admittedly, even those who experienced it have divergent
interpretations)
8:34 p.m.
Did they really just say "Tandy Shandy"??!!
If that wasn't a thing then, I'm guessing it will be now ?
--
Chris Elmquist
26 Aug
26 Aug
3:30 p.m.
HBO?s ?Silicon Valley? has a number of Silicon Valley-area advisors actively helping to
ensure they get these details right.
-- Chris
On Aug 24, 2016, at 8:17 PM, Tony Aiuto <tony.aiuto
at gmail.com> wrote:
Taking this forward 30+ years, Silicon Valley is a period drama that gets
significant details spot-on right - both in the gross generalizations that
are network TV and in the nuances targeted to the cognoscenti.
24 Aug
24 Aug
8:30 a.m.
> Halt and Catch Fire Tonight
> Halt and Catch Fire Tonight
> premiere of season showing episode 1 and 2 both!
> thx - Ed#
On Wed, 24 Aug 2016, ethan at 757.org wrote:
The tech timeline is so off :-(
Mr. Robot is doing a better job of getting tech facts done well.
Really?
In 1981, instead of buying a copy of the PUBLISHED schematics and BIOS
source code for $40 or disassembling in DEBUG or in BASIC, one had to read
out binary in LEDs to see the ROM contents, and worry about IBM doing
DMCA prosecution for reverse-engineering?
Isn't it wonderful that we have such excellent accurate history of well
publicized events of the time, from this show and "Pirates Of The Valley"
(with billg cold-calling IBM to sell them on having an OS)?
It must have been incredibly difficult for the producers to find ANY
technical advisors who were around in those days!
They should have just come to us! We could have explained to them that
FORTRAN was based on Valtrep, that Englebart got his ideas from his Mac,
that the 5100 holds the key to surviving the ultimate crash in 2038, the
arpanet was invented to get access to FACEBOOK and to the porn that was
already on WWW, and that Jobs invented the computer in order to create a
market for billg's invention of the OS!
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