2 Jan
2013
2 Jan
'13
12:17 a.m.
I just stumbled across a sort of show-and-tell of computers used by NASA
in the 1960s. See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrwpXEiTDVk
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2 Jan
2 Jan
9:31 a.m.
In article <alpine.DEB.2.00.1301020016130.19724 at sleipnir.cs.csubak.edu>,
David Griffith <dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu> writes:
I just stumbled across a sort of show-and-tell of
computers used by NASA
in the 1960s. See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrwpXEiTDVk
I identified:
01:37 Model 28 ASR teletypes
I noticed but could not identify:
07:13 calligraphic graphics system with hidden line removal. Could be
an Evans & Sutherland LDS-1, but might be something earlier.
I've seen this system in several NASA films, but I've never been
able to get any information on the hardware used.
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3 Jan
3 Jan
9:18 a.m.
In article <E1TqSA9-000311-LD at shell.xmission.com>,
Richard <legalize at xmission.com> writes:
In article <alpine.DEB.2.00.1301020016130.19724 at
sleipnir.cs.csubak.edu>,
David Griffith <dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu> writes:
Is it possible that this is an IBM 2250 vector display?
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I just stumbled across a sort of show-and-tell of
computers used by NASA
in the 1960s. See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrwpXEiTDVk
I noticed but could not identify:
07:13 calligraphic graphics system with hidden line removal. Could be
an Evans & Sutherland LDS-1, but might be something earlier.
I've seen this system in several NASA films, but I've never been
able to get any information on the hardware used. 
2 Jan
2 Jan
1:03 p.m.
On 01/02/2013 12:17 AM, David Griffith wrote:
I just stumbled across a sort of show-and-tell of computers used by NASA
in the 1960s. See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrwpXEiTDVk
An interesting question came to mind. It seems that the popular icon
for old computing gear is tapes spinning and lights blinking.
So 50 years on from today, what will be the icon for the PC era?
--Chuck
1:08 p.m.
On 01/02/2013 04:03 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote:
People playing video games, looking at porn, and paying other people
to reinstall the OS?
-Dave
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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
I just
stumbled across a sort of show-and-tell of computers used by NASA
in the 1960s. See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrwpXEiTDVk
An interesting question came to mind. It seems that the popular icon
for old computing gear is tapes spinning and lights blinking.
So 50 years on from today, what will be the icon for the PC era? 
1:18 p.m.
On 01/02/2013 04:03 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote:
An interesting question came to mind. It seems that
the popular icon
for old computing gear is tapes spinning and lights blinking.
So 50 years on from today, what will be the icon for the PC era?
A keyboard and a CRT.
Mike Loewen mloewen at cpumagic.scol.pa.us
Old Technology http://sturgeon.css.psu.edu/~mloewen/Oldtech/
1:10 p.m.
Which PC era?
cassette tapes?the floppy disk?CDs ?DVDs ?blu-ray disks?hard drives?a picture of a bunch
of clouds???
Dan.
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 13:03:16 -0800
From: cclist at sydex.com
To:
Subject: Re: NASA computers circa 1969
On 01/02/2013 12:17 AM, David Griffith wrote:
I just stumbled across a sort of show-and-tell of computers used by NASA
in the 1960s. See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrwpXEiTDVk
An interesting question came to mind. It seems that the popular icon
for old computing gear is tapes spinning and lights blinking.
So 50 years on from today, what will be the icon for the PC era?
--Chuck
1:16 p.m.
I just
stumbled across a sort of show-and-tell of computers used by NASA
in the 1960s. See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrwpXEiTDVk
An interesting question came to mind. It seems that the popular icon
for old computing gear is tapes spinning and lights blinking.
So 50 years on from today, what will be the icon for the PC era? 
1:21 p.m.
A sad mac face?
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Subject: Re: NASA computers circa 1969
On 01/02/2013 12:17 AM, David Griffith wrote:
I just stumbled across a sort of show-and-tell of computers used by NASA
in the 1960s. See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrwpXEiTDVk
An interesting question came to mind. It seems that the popular icon
for old computing gear is tapes spinning and lights blinking.
So 50 years on from today, what will be the icon for the PC era?
--Chuck
1:22 p.m.
On 2013-01-02 14:03, Chuck Guzis wrote:
On 01/02/2013 12:17 AM, David Griffith wrote:
A blue screen?
I just stumbled across a sort of show-and-tell of computers used by NASA
in the 1960s. See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrwpXEiTDVk
An interesting question came to mind. It seems that the popular icon
for old computing gear is tapes spinning and lights blinking.
So 50 years on from today, what will be the icon for the PC era? 
1:24 p.m.
On 1/2/2013 2:03 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote:
On 01/02/2013 12:17 AM, David Griffith wrote:
Trash Can.
I just stumbled across a sort of show-and-tell of computers used by NASA
in the 1960s. See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrwpXEiTDVk
An interesting question came to mind. It seems that the popular icon
for old computing gear is tapes spinning and lights blinking.
So 50 years on from today, what will be the icon for the PC era? --Chuck
1:32 p.m.
It was thus said that the Great Chuck Guzis once stated:
On 01/02/2013 12:17 AM, David Griffith wrote:
A picture of a CRT with a flying toaster on it.
-spc (What's a "tape"? 8-P
I just stumbled across a sort of show-and-tell of computers used by NASA
in the 1960s. See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrwpXEiTDVk
An interesting question came to mind. It seems that the popular icon
for old computing gear is tapes spinning and lights blinking.
So 50 years on from today, what will be the icon for the PC era? 
2:56 p.m.
New subject: icon for the PC ear (was Re: NASA computers circa 1969)
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Subject: icon for the PC ear (was Re: NASA computers circa 1969)
Chuck Guzis wrote:
Free Porn, Facebook.
So 50 years on from today, what will be the icon
for the PC era?
The Blue Screen of Death?
A piece of Spam?
3:04 p.m.
On 01/02/2013 03:03 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote:
An interesting question came to mind. It seems that
the popular icon for
old computing gear is tapes spinning and lights blinking.
So 50 years on from today, what will be the icon for the PC era?
You expect people in 50 years time to care about anything that happened 50
years ago? The current generation seem to think of last week as ancient
history :-(
4 Jan
4 Jan
2:19 p.m.
On 01/02/2013 05:14 PM, William Donzelli wrote:
Well, I knew plenty of people when I was that age who were interested in
history; they still had to be engaged in the first place, of course - but
once they were, what they'd seen tended to stick with them and often
prompted them to seek out similar things or more information.
I suppose it's that which seems to have been eroded over time; today people
will see something that they think is cool for all of five minutes, before
moving on to something else.
You expect
people in 50 years time to care about anything that happened 50
years ago? The current generation seem to think of last week as ancient
history :-(
Yeah, just like you and me and everyone else when we were 14.
People grown to like history.
2:27 p.m.
New subject: ADD (was: NASA computers circa 1969)
In article <50E75554.7040005 at gmail.com>,
Jules Richardson <jules.richardson99 at gmail.com> writes:
I suppose it's that which seems to have been
eroded over time; today people
will see something that they think is cool for all of five minutes, before
moving on to something else.
One big difference between now and earlier decades is that "something
new" shows up every 5 minutes now, whereas before new things showed up
at a slower rate. It's a consequence of exponential technological
change creating an exponential increase in novel items.
There was a time, within the memory of many (most?) on this list, when
you could stay current with the entire field of computer science.
When I graduated college in 1986, it was still possible to stay
current with the entire subfield of computer graphics. Now it is
impossible to stay current with the subfield of computer graphics that
is computer gaming.
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2:49 p.m.
New subject: ADD (was: NASA computers circa 1969)
One big difference between now and earlier decades is
that "something
new" shows up every 5 minutes now, whereas before new things showed up
at a slower rate. It's a consequence of exponential technological
change creating an exponential increase in novel items.
You can download all 10K+ MAME games, and only play Pengo (1982, SEGA).
The rate of news never was SO fast!
There was a time, within the memory of many (most?) on
this list, when
you could stay current with the entire field of computer science.
When I graduated college in 1986, it was still possible to stay
current with the entire subfield of computer graphics. Now it is
impossible to stay current with the subfield of computer graphics that
is computer gaming.
And each time I set my eyes on that, I still think this is alien
technology, and John Carmack is from another galaxy.
3:13 p.m.
On 01/04/2013 02:19 PM, Jules Richardson wrote:
I suppose it's that which seems to have been eroded over time; today
people will see something that they think is cool for all of five
minutes, before moving on to something else.
My guess is that 50 years from today, people will view the idea of a
personal computer as something so bulky that you could actually hold it
in your hands, rather than have it implanted in your skull.
--Chuck
4 Jan
4 Jan
11:57 a.m.
On Wed, 2 Jan 2013 15:29:06 -0800 (PST)
Fred Cisin <cisin at xenosoft.com> wrote:
On Wed, 2 Jan 2013, Chuck Guzis wrote:
I'd say floppy disks were a thing of the eighties. Things like
Commodore 64 and small computers around that time frame, etc.
Iconic of the
PC-System (that is, an IBM PC kind of computer) would be a CD,
when looking at removable storage media.
Tape reels are fun to look at, it looks cool when they're accessed,
especially when they're accessing chunks of data at a time, the
reels spin in this jerky manner.
You usually don't see CDs spinning inside the drives, but they look
nice as it is. The prism effect of them makes it pretty Iconic even
without seeing them spinning.
I would imagine, that flashy gaming equipment would be pretty
memorable in fifty years or so. People making fun how people
"back then" would decorate and casemod their computers to make
them better looking. Same thing with things like Logitech G11, etc.
Probably the era after that would be defined by smartphones and
tablet computers.
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So 50 years on from today, what will be the icon
for the PC era?
floppy disk? 
2 Jan
2 Jan
3:58 p.m.
On 01/02/13 16:03, Chuck Guzis wrote:
On 01/02/2013 12:17 AM, David Griffith wrote:
The Blue Screen of Death.
Mark
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Investigation, 1938
I just stumbled across a sort of show-and-tell of computers used by NASA
in the 1960s. See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrwpXEiTDVk
An interesting question came to mind. It seems that the popular icon for
old computing gear is tapes spinning and lights blinking.
So 50 years on from today, what will be the icon for the PC era?
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