Because as per the original request, I'm looking to document versions of
Spacewar from the later half of the 60s ('65-'69).
On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 3:01 PM, Tom Uban <uban at ubanproductions.com> wrote:
As I said, I was going by printset dates and circuit
board dates, so
given that time is required to produce a product, it may well be that
the first machine was not actually shipped until 1970.
What is special about December 31, 1969?
--tom
On 12/24/12 8:02 AM, Martin Goldberg wrote:
Are you sure? My understanding (from all the
documentation I've seen) is
that the PDS-1 was released in 1970?
On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 11:31 PM, Tom Uban <uban at ubanproductions.com>
wrote:
> Actually, the print set for the PDS-1 is dated from the late 60s and the
> first model of the machine which I did own and later traded to another
> collector was a late 60s vintage. Mine, the PDS-1D, is from the early
70s.
>
> --tom
>
> On 12/23/12 2:18 AM, Martin Goldberg wrote:
>> Thanks Tom, appreciate the repsonse but the PDS-1 wasn't out in the
> 1960s.
>> As mentioned, I'm trying to compile a listing of ports of Spacewar on
>> various hardware during the 1960s. :)
>>
>> So far during that time period (mid through late 60s), I haven't seen
any
>> direct ports outside of DEC equipment.
>>
>> On a related note, is anyone here a grad from U of Utah during that
> period
>> or in contact with someone who was? I'm also trying to track down what
>> mainframes/minis they had and what if any of them had xy displays.
> Someone
>> claims to have played Spacewar there in '65, but so far it's panned out
> as
>> being highly unlikely, since up to that time it only existed on the
> PDP-1,
>> which Utah didn't have. The PDP-6 version wasn't created by Russel
until
>> '66 at SAIL (their PDP-6 was
installed in June '66). Likewise, Evans
was
>> first recruited in '65 to start their
CS program.
>>
>> The earliest documentation I've been able to find is that Utah
purchased
> a
>> Univac 1108 in 1967 (
http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/694650.pdf)
>>
>> And they were just starting to plan building a 1108/PDP-8 graphics
system
>> in '67:
>>
>
http://content.lib.utah.edu/utils/getfile/collection/uspace/id/2332/filenam…
>>
>> Likewise they had a PDP-10 in the very late 60s (used as one of the
first
>> Arpanet nodes).
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 6:40 PM, Tom Uban <uban at ubanproductions.com>
> wrote:
>>
>>> I do not know that it was technically a "port", but a version of
> spacewar
>>> runs on the Imlac PDS-1 vector graphics computer. I know of two which
> are
>>> still in running condition. Mine is a PDS-1D as seen here:
>>>
http://members.iglou.com/thunderbird/vcf/vcf-Pages/Image10.html
>>>
>>> On 12/22/12 3:07 AM, Martin Goldberg wrote:
>>>> Hoping some of the people here can help, I'm trying to compile a
> listing
>>> of
>>>> hardware that versions of the Spacewar code were ported to after the
>>> PDP-1
>>>> during the 1960s. There was the PDP-6 version which was done at
> Stanford
>>>> SAIL, and there were the PDP-7 and 8 versions which appeared in the
> DECUS
>>>> catalog in the early 70s (which means they could have technically
been
>>>> done in the very late 60s), and
the early 70s PDP-10 version (which
was
>>>> just a port of the PDP-6
version).
>>>>
>>>> Is anyone aware of any non DEC hardware it was ported to in the 60s?
I
>>>> haven't been able to find any
concrete evidence that it was on
anything
>> other than DEC hardware in the 60s.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>> --
>> Marty
>>
>
>