8 Aug
2013
8 Aug
'13
2:45 a.m.
I spent the afternoon finishing off repairs on a Teletype machine I picked
up this morning and now I'm searching for the lesser important pedestal (I
can live without it but the lack of a chad bucket will suck) and the far
more important paper tape. From what I read you can't get away with using
regular paper. It has to be prelubricated.
Where on earth do you even find that stuff anymore? All I see on abay is a
box of NOS rolls for $100 and a single roll for $150....
8 Aug
8 Aug
2:51 a.m.
On Thu, 8 Aug 2013, John Ball wrote:
I spent the afternoon finishing off repairs on a Teletype machine I picked
up this morning and now I'm searching for the lesser important pedestal (I
can live without it but the lack of a chad bucket will suck) and the far
more important paper tape. From what I read you can't get away with using
regular paper. It has to be prelubricated.
Where on earth do you even find that stuff anymore? All I see on abay is a
box of NOS rolls for $100 and a single roll for $150....
I found some paper of the right sizes (for a DECwriter LA120) at Staples'
websiteof all places...but I have no idea if they sell prelubricated paper
for a Teletype.
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects
4:06 a.m.
From: John Ball <ball.of.john at gmail.com>
Where on earth do you even find that stuff anymore? All
I see on abay is a
box of NOS rolls for $100 and a single roll for $150....
New stock:
http://wncsupply.com/paper-tape-rolls.html
$92 for 7 rolls
WNC is a long-time supplier. ?Their prices have gone up considerably
?over the last 10 years, especially since Trybus (another supplier) folded
a few years ago.
--Bill
2:21 p.m.
From: William Maddox
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2013 1:06 AM
From: John Ball <ball.of.john at gmail.com>
> Where on earth do you even find that stuff
anymore? All I see on abay
> is a box of NOS rolls for $100 and a single roll for $150....
New stock:
$92 for 7 rolls
WNC is a long-time supplier. Their prices have gone
up considerably
over the last 10 years, especially since Trybus (another supplier)
folded a few years ago.
What's much harder to find is *unoiled* *folded* paper tape, the kind
used by (among others) the high-speed paper tape punches in DEC minis.
(Oiled tape fouls the punch, and only comes in reels.) Does anyone know
of a supplier for that?
Rich Alderson
Vintage Computing Sr. Systems Engineer
Living Computer Museum
2245 1st Avenue S
Seattle, WA 98134
mailto:RichA at LivingComputerMuseum.org
http://www.LivingComputerMuseum.org/
5:21 p.m.
On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Rich Alderson
<RichA at livingcomputermuseum.org> wrote:
What's much harder to find is *unoiled* *folded*
paper tape, the kind
used by (among others) the high-speed paper tape punches in DEC minis.
(Oiled tape fouls the punch, and only comes in reels.) Does anyone know
of a supplier for that?
If you want enough of it, you could probably get it made, but AFAICT
there's none commercially available. Small quantities show up on eBay
occasionally.
7:47 p.m.
From: William Donzelli
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2013 3:14 PM
[quoting Eric Smith regarding folded paper tape]
> Small quantities show up on eBay
> occasionally.
Yes, indeed it does. Go search for some. NOW.
There is a problem with the NOS folded paper tape. The paper is acidic,
and the folds themselves are the primary failure point. If it isn't new,
it's no good for our purposes.
We did fold a large quantity of the oiled stuff to get us past the early
stage of diagnostics on the KI10, but the reader really really doesn't
like the oiled tape, which is translucent and plays Hob with the optical
read head.
Rich Alderson
Vintage Computing Sr. Systems Engineer
Living Computer Museum
2245 1st Avenue S
Seattle, WA 98134
mailto:RichA at LivingComputerMuseum.org
http://www.LivingComputerMuseum.org/
7:30 p.m.
On Thu, Aug 08, 2013 at 06:21:34PM +0000, Rich Alderson wrote:
What's much harder to find is *unoiled* *folded*
paper tape, the kind
used by (among others) the high-speed paper tape punches in DEC minis.
(Oiled tape fouls the punch, and only comes in reels.) Does anyone know
of a supplier for that?
If only I hadn't been picked clean by looters ... I got 11.9 miles of
it (the DEC "Programmed Data Processor" stuff) with my PDP-8/E in 1983.
I have no idea WTF happened -- it seemed like after each move another
carton was missing. Anywway I agree that rigging up a contraption to
fold your own might actually be a fun project.
John Wilson
D Bit
8:12 p.m.
If only I hadn't been picked clean by looters ...
I got 11.9 miles of
it (the DEC "Programmed Data Processor" stuff) with my PDP-8/E in 1983.
I have no idea WTF happened -- it seemed like after each move another
carton was missing. Anywway I agree that rigging up a contraption to
fold your own might actually be a fun project.
Many commercially available paper folders will do a continuous fanfold
- no need to reinvent the wheel.
--
Will
9 Aug
9 Aug
10:50 a.m.
On 09.08.2013 02:12, William Donzelli wrote:
Many commercially available paper folders will do a
continuous fanfold
- no need to reinvent the wheel.
Please give me an example! I was unable to find a machine that does the job.
What I found was sheet folders in any size and price class. And fanfolding
stackers that operate on perforated paper. Which is not what's needed.
Kind regards
Philipp
--
Dipl.-Inf. (FH) Philipp Hachtmann
Buchdruck, Bleisatz, Spezialit?ten
Alemannstr. 21, D-30165 Hannover
Tel. 0511/3522222, Mobil 0171/2632239
Fax. 0511/3500439
hachti at hachti.de
www.tiegeldruck.de
UStdID DE 202668329
11:55 a.m.
Please give me an example! I was unable to find a
machine that does the job.
What I found was sheet folders in any size and price class. And fanfolding
stackers that operate on perforated paper. Which is not what's needed.
Cripes, it has been about ten...twelve...fourteen...??? years since I
used a paper folder, so I can not remember the models.
The ones we used were extremely versatile, and could do almost
anything. They were incredibly finicky, however, and it could take up
to an hour to get them properly adjusted and settled down so they
could do folds consistently.
--
Will
8 Aug
8 Aug
10:42 p.m.
On Thu, 8 Aug 2013, John Wilson wrote:
I have no idea WTF happened -- it seemed like after
each move another
carton was missing.
Three moves is the equivalent of a fire. - attribution?
My FPUIB stuff has been in the boxes for three, four, or five moves.
I have little idea what I'll find next. But MOST of it looks familiar
when I see it.
I will be unavailable next week, so y'all get a brewak from the incessant
FPUIB listings for a while.
11:21 a.m.
>Three moves is the equivalent of a fire. -
attribution?
On Fri, 9 Aug 2013, John Wilson wrote:
Nice! Then it's a miracle I have *anything* left.
Well some of the big
iron would probably have survived a real fire so why not.
"Three removals are as bad as a fire"
seems to be an 18th century English proverb, based on an earlier German
proverb. Quoted by Ben Franklin (1758) and Charles Dickens (1836), and
sometimes erroneously attributed to one or the other.
I guess that we are not the only ones to ever experience it.
--
Grumpy Ol' Fred cisin at xenosoft.com
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