Hi, I am looking for the user manual (console operations) of the HP 2113E and / or HP 2117F. Anybody know a download site ? Reason: I won those two blinkenlight panels on eBay a few weeks ago, and want to add the blinkenlight RealConsole with SIMH to demonstrate the ease with which you can make your own "old big iron" system *if* you do not have the space or AC power to run such a beast. I will always admit that nothing beats the real thing though! I checked bitsavers, but as far as I can see the specific versions I am looking for are not there, and it is not clever to download some 10 Mb just to find out it's the wrong manual ... I know, I have way too much projects going, but hey, it beats hanging in the pub :-) - Henk, PA8PDP BTW. if I have the HP 211x panel wired, I will probably have questions about HP software like which OS, etc. I am reaaly totally blank on HP. I was only an end-user on HP64000 systems as a software engineer using editor, assembler, compiler, emulator and state analyser IIRC, with 8085 (yuck), 6801 (ahh) and 68000 (yes!) pods). I still love the way the HP64000 screen used the soft key concept. This message and attachment(s) are intended solely for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or otherwise exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient or agent thereof responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by telephone and with a "reply" message. Thank you for your cooperation.