In article <200704191924.00621.lbickley at bickleywest.com>, Lyle Bickley <lbickley at bickleywest.com> writes: Nope, all the SGI machines in this auction were sans hard drives: <http://www.dovebid.com/assets/display.asp?ItemID=cpt58901> -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" -- DirectX 9 draft available for download <http://www.xmission.com/~legalize/book/download/index.html> Legalize Adulthood! <http://blogs.xmission.com/legalize/>

In article <102301c78356$2b9a5830$f0fea8c0 at alpha>, "Alexandre Souza" <alexandre-listas at e-secure.com.br> writes: Actually, there is an X11 port of doom that runs on SGI boxes, so yeah, I could probably run doom on that once I get hard drives and an OS on it. I don't think it would be lawnmower man style (god, what an awful movie). LM came out in 1992 and the "Reality Monster" came out in 1999. I guess that doesn't really make this machine "vintage" so much as "discontinued". Still, getting 4 racks of SGI iron for $666 (the devil made me do it!) is a steal. -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" -- DirectX 9 draft available for download <http://www.xmission.com/~legalize/book/download/index.html> Legalize Adulthood! <http://blogs.xmission.com/legalize/>

Hello! Friday, April 20, 2007, 9:09:24 PM, you wrote: If there are equivalents in other systems, what are they? I guess that is the space where UNIX != UNIX != UNIX. -- Best regards, Gerhard mailto:mail at g-lenerz.de Old SGI Stuff http://sgistuff.g-lenerz.de/

In article <200704201209.24485.lbickley at bickleywest.com>, Lyle Bickley <lbickley at bickleywest.com> writes: Yep, also picked up: Crimson $50 <http://www.dovebid.com/assets/display.asp?ItemID=cpt58892> "Tall boy" Onyx $50 <http://www.dovebid.com/assets/display.asp?ItemID=cpt58902> I have no idea why this Onyx appears to be twice as high as the usual deskside units I've seen. What's in the extra space? Challenge $50 <http://www.dovebid.com/assets/display.asp?ItemID=cpt58877> 15 spaceballs and a trackball $177.50 <http://www.dovebid.com/assets/display.asp?ItemID=cpt58864> So yeah, I'll be flying out and renting a truck to get that gear home. Hopefully I'll also have a chance to meet our esteemed list hoster Jay West in person and take a gander at his collection and drink a beer or two. All this gear is in St. Louis. -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" -- DirectX 9 draft available for download <http://www.xmission.com/~legalize/book/download/index.html> Legalize Adulthood! <http://blogs.xmission.com/legalize/>

What I wouldn't give for one of that... :oO

On 4/20/07, Richard <legalize at xmission.com> wrote: Ach, my favorite SGI machine! It's just so....red! I've got a Iris Power Series (?) 4D/130 downstairs that I can't get going. Man is it *heavy*...

On 4/21/07, Gerhard Lenerz <mail at g-lenerz.de> wrote: Yep, got a couple of those, too. One even works! It powers up, but I just can't get anything out of the console. It was in pretty sad shape when I got it, boards all out, console cables disconnected. I replaced everything to the best of my knowledge, but no luck on any POST info. Also, it dims the lights a bit every time I turn it on :) It's a forgotten project in the basement right now. But it makes a great drink stand!

On Sat, 2007-04-21 at 23:12 +0200, Gerhard Lenerz wrote: Hmm, that must be what I have sitting here next to my desk. Its brown/blue and says Power Series on the front, but AFAICT it is technically a Crimson w/ VGXT. I wish it was red though. :-( Worked last I turned it on.... (No, I'm not fond of the dimming light effect when I turn it on, neither are my neighbors. :-) ) Unfortunately, these days, it mostly serves as my printer stand. Mine was not to heavy to lug up and downstairs, if I _completely_ striped it down to the bare metal frame. Pulled the drives, the boards, the fan trays, the PSU, the back plane, everything.. Good time to dust the boards, and to hose off the metal frame. It's how I got mine from downstairs.. to the upstairs.. then back down again. (Yes, there was a couple of year's in between trips.) <snip> David

Hi! Friday, April 20, 2007, 7:19:58 PM, you wrote: Running DOOM is a pretty basic task... I guess even an R4000 Indigo can handle several instances of the classic DOOM. I remember running different Lucas Arts adventures (3 or 4+) at the same time on an Indigo 2 without problems using 'scummvm'. Hey, why does "doing SGI" always equal flashy lights and games? ;-) Agreed... it's a good price for a multiple rack system if you've got the space and the means to transport it. It might not be classic in the "old DEC" kind of way, but it is still a reasonable piece of iron to get hold of. Ok, I admit that I might be biased... ;-) -- Best regards, Gerhard mailto:mail at g-lenerz.de Old SGI Stuff http://sgistuff.g-lenerz.de/

In article <11910126669.20070420212734 at g-lenerz.de>, Gerhard Lenerz <mail at g-lenerz.de> writes: I'll fly out and rent a lift-gate truck from Penske to get it home. I have a warehouse location to store it (where my two Onyxs are currently). -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" -- DirectX 9 draft available for download <http://www.xmission.com/~legalize/book/download/index.html> Legalize Adulthood! <http://blogs.xmission.com/legalize/>

In article <10e701c78396$308d5410$f0fea8c0 at alpha>, "Alexandre Souza" <alexandre-listas at e-secure.com.br> writes: Like most things in graphics, "it depends" ;-). PCs probably can't even come close to the RealityMonster machine. There is also the bandwidth of the I/O system and busses to consider when comparing to a PC. Once you get the whole scene loaded into a PC card it can scream, but if the scene has to be paged in to the 3D card on a PC, then you're at the mercy of your system bus, clock rate and disk rates. There are also graphics features that these workstations have that aren't well supported on PCs until very recently. Things like volume rendering. Then there's the fact that the higher end SGI cards can do 12-bits per channel, for 48-bit RGB output, allowing for extremely high quality graphics rendering. The last time that I personally programmed an SGI box was 1997, so its been a while for me. However, SGI was largely driven by scientific visualization, simulation and the entertainment industry (read: Hollywood) while the PC market is driven by gaming. These are very different markets. In the PC market, its hard to get a hardware vendor interested in your requested feature if its not going to be used in games. Then again, the PC cards are becoming so programmable that nobody requests specific features anymore, they just request more bandwidth, more memory and more programmability. Most of the SGI hardware engineers ended up at NVidia, so its no surprise that the PC cards are displacing more and more SGI machines. The one big exception that I know of is Kurt Akeley, who is an SGI founded, and is now heading up the graphics research group for Microsoft in Beijing. SGI machines of this variety do seem to be increasingly rare. They don't show up on ebay much because they require freight shipping. I more often see parts for these machines showing up on ebay. They don't show up on dovebid much either -- these machines and an Onyx that I bought earlier are the first that have shown up on dovebid since I've been monitoring. -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" -- DirectX 9 draft available for download <http://www.xmission.com/~legalize/book/download/index.html> Legalize Adulthood! <http://blogs.xmission.com/legalize/>