12 Oct
2006
12 Oct
'06
1:49 p.m.
My lord, that's a HUGE wad of code for something as simple as
MS-DOS... How the HECK can an OS that fits on a floppy with room to
spare have 20 megs of ASM source. Does the wad include the tools that
M$ ripped off like Doublespace and the like?
12 Oct
12 Oct
2:05 p.m.
On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 13:49:48 -0400, Michael Kerpan wrote:
My lord, that's a HUGE wad of code for something as
simple as
MS-DOS... How the HECK can an OS that fits on a floppy with room to
spare have 20 megs of ASM source. Does the wad include the tools that
M$ ripped off like Doublespace and the like?
Once upon a time, the idea was to take a huge amount of logic documented by
vast amounts of source code to produce a very small piece of binary object
code, optimized to do the task.
Today it take very few lines of source code to link into many megs of object code.
Why ? Because we became lazy and adopted the use of cascadeing libarys.
The other Bob
4:05 p.m.
In article <200610121803.k9CI3ZsW032709 at keith.ezwind.net>,
"Bob" <caveguy at sbcglobal.net> writes:
Why ? Because we became lazy and adopted the use of
cascadeing libarys.
Another way to look at it is that hardware became cheap and
programmer's became expensive, so we optimized for the programmer time
needed to get the job done.
I for one and glad I don't have to write complex distributed
applications in assembly language.
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4:17 p.m.
I for one and glad I don't have to write complex
distributed
applications in assembly language.
Wimp.
;)
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5:26 p.m.
Richard wrote:
I for one and glad I don't have to write complex
distributed
applications in assembly language.
but then most applications aren't distributed, nor are they even complex at
the algorithm level - the complexity these days comes purely because
individual applications try to do far too much (we've shifted from lots of
small tools doing one job only to few big tools doing lots of different jobs).
4:58 p.m.
In article <452EB2FD.7000508 at yahoo.co.uk>,
Jules Richardson <julesrichardsonuk at yahoo.co.uk> writes:
Richard wrote:
This hasn't been true for applications I've worked on for quite some
time.
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I for one and glad I don't have to write
complex distributed
applications in assembly language.
but then most applications aren't distributed, nor are they even complex at
the algorithm level - [...] 
2:42 p.m.
On 10/12/2006 at 1:49 PM Michael Kerpan wrote:
My lord, that's a HUGE wad of code for something as
simple as
MS-DOS... How the HECK can an OS that fits on a floppy with room to
spare have 20 megs of ASM source. Does the wad include the tools that
M$ ripped off like Doublespace and the like?
AKA Magicdrive? No, it doesn't, sorry. One or two MSDN CD-ROMs had a
pretty good rundown on Doublespace, however. Curiously, the material
quietly disappeared from the MSDN collection later.
Cheers,
Chuck
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