21 Apr
2021
21 Apr
'21
3:50 p.m.
On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 09:53:26PM +0100, Antonio Carlini via cctalk
wrote:
I've managed to reconstitute my SIMH config and
I've checked out a few
of the ISO files I managed to generate using ddrescue.
The Mar 89 CONOLD and May 89 CONDIST do not even show up as media
under Linux. If I get the chance I'll try out the Oxford GAME store
polisher for one at least of them. As a backup I'll dig out my 3000
grit sandpaper and try that out.
I have to say I'm a little worried about the sandpaper... do you have a
spare CD to test the effect on? Another option might be to send the CD
to someone who does have a store nearby with a CD polisher. Either way,
I guess the first step would be to find out whether the Oxford GAME
store has one. Thanks again for your effort!
I've only looked at a few CONDIST volumes and none
of the
corresponding CONOLD volumes.
The oldest working one is the 1989 July CONDIST, which read 99.99%
with ddrescue. It mounts quite happily and I can see the directory.
[...]
Anyway, it looks like it is all there. However (and there's always a
"however") the VAXSET kit that started this all off is VAXSET*080* and
not the hoped for *070*. Interestingly the [.LINE] subdirectory does
contain some doc files but the [.KIT] directory is empty. I've
included the CD_CONTENTS.DAT below. From that you can see:
"VAXSET" **** N V8.0 SUB N Y VAXSET080 NO_BINARIES
which would suggest that the kit didn't ship although the SPD and so
on did. No idea why. Until I saw that I assumed that this was the one
set of files to get whacked, but that seems very unlikely. Especially
since the 1989 JUL AD CONDIST is the same.
VAXSET is just a combined package consisting of CMS, LSE, SCA, MMS, PCA,
and DTM. Here's a table of corresponding version numbers I've compiled
from various sources (likely not 100% correct):
|===
| VAXSET | v5.0 | v6.0 | v7.0 | v8.0 | v9.0 | v10.0
| CMS | v2.3 | v3.0 | v3.1 | v3.2 | v3.3 | v3.4
| LSE | v2.1 | v2.2 | v2.2 | v2.3 | v3.0 | v3.1
| SCA | v1.1 | v1.2 | v1.2 | v1.3 | v2.0 | v3.0
| MMS | v2.2 | v2.3 | v2.4 | v2.5 | v2.5 | v2.6
| PCA |?v1.2 | v2.0 | v2.0 | v2.1 | v2.2 | v3.0
| DTM | v2.2 | v2.3 | v2.3 | v3.0 | v3.1 | v3.2
| Release | 1987 | 1988 | 1988 | 1989 | 1990 | 1990
| Minimal VMS |?v4.4 | v4.6 | v4.6 | v5.1 | v5.3 | v5.3
|===
It looks like the individual components of VAXSET v8.0 are on the
1989-07 CONDIST even if VAXSET is listed as NO_BINARIES. While VAXSET
v8.0 requires VMS v5.1, I'm not sure about its components. Some of them
may run on (Micro)VMS 4.7.
I also ran up the MENU.EXE that is included and VAXSET
is listed under
"New Products" and not "Updated Products". My interpretation would
be
that it is not on any earlier CONDIST CDROMs. But it would be nice for
earlier ones to get flushed out and published!
That's entirely possible, I have no reason to believe VAXSET was on
earlier CONDIST CDs. Either way, I'm very interested in the older
CONDISTs, too! This one already contains a few other things I have been
looking for for a while.
Anyway, over the next few days I'll package up
these early CDROMs and
put them up on either google drive or dropbox. I'll post a link here
and whoever wants them can grab them. If Al wants them for bitsavers
that's OK by me.
I plan to include the ISO, a README.TXT that explains that these are
all incomplete and I'll attach the ddrescue output, a scan of the CD,
a SHA256 of the files. I'll tar it up and compress with xz.
If anyone would prefer some other format or compression or whatever,
I'm open to suggestions.
Maybe a ZIP file is easier for some people? Otherwise this sounds good!
Cheers,
Malte
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Malte Dehling
<mdehling at gmail.com>