9 Sep
2020
9 Sep
'20
2:14 p.m.
Fyi .. there seems to be a lots of Netware for sale on Ebay for some reason.
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On Sep 9, 2020, at 10:42, Grant Taylor via cctalk
<cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
?On 9/9/20 5:08 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote:
But that's good, isn't it?
Yes and no.
Yes in that it's below the problem point. :-)
No in that I don't have the necessary Support Pack's to install. :-(
I confess I may have misread your original
message as being "I need NW5.1 with no SPs." Was that wrong?
It might have been an ambiguity on my part.
I've learned a little bit since my last message.
I seem to have NetWare 5.1 (SP 0) for both "Domestic" (128-bit) and
"Exportable" (56-bit). But there is a catch.
The exportable version is part of Novell Small Business Suite 5.1, which seems to be a
superset of NetWare 5.1. I don't yet know if I can bust it down to be a more standard
NetWare 5.1 without all the other unwanted NSBS stuff.
I did learn that NSBS 5.1 is the "Exportable" (56-bit) version and that it
comes with Exportable NetWare 5.1 Support Pack 1 as an install able option on another
disk.
Said Exportable NetWare 5.1 Support Pack 1 will install on NSBS 5.1. But given that
it's the "Exportable" (56-bit) version, it won't install on standard
"Domestic" (128-bit) NetWare 5.1. That being said, I don't really care
about the 56-bit vs 128-bit. I just want stock NetWare 5.1 without all the NSBS 5.1 ...
features. I'll install just the few features that I want.
Aside: NSBS 5.1 includes ZENworks (Starter?) and some other things that are above and
beyond stock NetWare. I don't want those ... features yet. I want to learn more
about stock NetWare 5.1.
But if you have SP0, no bugfixes, then surely you
can just install the SPs on top of it to get to whatever level you want?
The only Support Pack that I've been able to find thus far is Exportable NetWare 5.1
Support Pack 1. I've not yet been able to locate any other support packs.
Well, I guess I can still get SP7 and SP8 from Novell's Patch Download. But
that's beyond what works with what I'm testing with Border Manager 3.5
It's a weird nitch that I'm trying to fit in. Early Domestic (128-bit) NetWare
with Support Pack > 0 and < 7.
My $DAYJOB was part of Novell until about a year
ago. I _may_ be able to find internal download links still but I am not confident. Want me
to start asking around? I may need some fairly specific info as there are few Netware folk
left now. E.g. how many separate SPs did NW5.1 get? Do you need both US and ROW versions?
I would be very interested in contacting someone at Novell ~> Micro Focus about
acquiring copies of what was freely downloadable ~20 years ago.
I did take a swing (and apparently a miss) to contact someone at Micro Focus a year or so
ago. But that never went anywhere. But I'm not surprised that a generic web contact
us form didn't yield anything.
Please ask questions that you need ~> want more information about, be it here or
directly off list (your choice).
Oh dear...
Ya.... I'm not surprised. But it is making things ... tricky ... entertaining.
TBH I have a suspicion nobody may have kept stuff
like that, even inside Novell... :(
Ya. That seems to be the way that a LOT of things have gone in the industry. It's
hobbyists like myself that tend to be archiving this stuff. I'm just 15-25 years too
late.
I'm going through my NetWare disks (5.1 ~> 5.x ~> x.x) and getting a better
handle on what version / language(s) / encryption they are.
Thank you for your time Liam. I appreciate your input and help.
--
Grant. . . .
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