In article <1137064185.5176.27.camel at fortran.babel>,
Tore S Bekkedal <toresbe at ifi.uio.no> writes:
On Wed, 2006-01-04 at 21:55 -0700, Richard wrote:
Speaking of pre-HP Apollo, does anyone on this
list have an Apollo
DN10000?
I have access to two or three of them. I believe there are others....
I'm interested in the DN1000 because they had a high-performance PHIGS
implementation around 1989/1990. This was a time when companies with
proprietary graphics APIs (most notably SGI with their GL API) were
claiming that a high-performance PHIGS implementation wasn't possible
because they didn't like the central structure store (i.e. display
lsits).
SGI had great engineers, but their sales and marketing force was
consistently one of the slimiest kinds of humans I've ever
encountered. They would routinely do bait-and-switch type techniques
in demonstrations and make all sorts of misleading statements and
sometimes outright lies. Its unfortunate that marketplace success
leads to sales and marketing arms of companies becoming more often
than not arrogant dickheads.
At any rate, the DN10000 had a decent PHIGS implementation which I
used at the UofU circa 1989/1990. However, it was optional software
and didn't ship with the machine by default. My long-term interest in
getting one of these is to find a DN10000 with a PHIGS implementation
and hopefully docs.
SGI machines from the workstation period are relatively easy to
collect, but its the more exotic graphics workstations made by
competitors that I find more interesting.
I know that HP made machines to compete with SGI at this time, but since
HP had the habit of giving all their machines completely unrememberable
names like the PX400GQ (I'm making that up, but its similar to what
they did with their model numers), its hard to know what HP had at this
timeframe without being an HP historian.
I also know that Sun has a line of 3D graphics accelerators of the
period that were built with engineers cribbed from E&S and have some
interesting antialiasing features. I think Dave Naigle was one of the
principle engineers in the early 90s, don't know if he still works
there or not.
Then there are more interesting machines like the Ardent/Stellar/
Stardent workstations and the graphics workstations made by Kubota.
Anyone have some of these exotica in their collection?
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