-----Original Message-----
From: Zane H. Healy <healyzh(a)ix.netcom.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Saturday, January 17, 1998 8:38 PM
Subject: Re: Got an Apple IIgs
>>Well, I've got a comment and a question.
>>1. Yes, the apple software is avaible for download, but I forget where.
You
>>need to copy it in a special way for it to work on disks. You might be
able
>>to have a serial link, etc. do it, unless you've got a Mac, which makses
it
>>SO easy.
>
>It sounds like no one can remember where it can be found, I know I can't
>:^(
I've got the OS here, downloaded on my computer, so whoever wants it, just ask, and I'll e-mail it as an attachment, or, I could like post it on my web site, or something.
There is a Macintosh utility that is required to write the disks,
>called "Disk Copy". Very handy util if you have a Mac. I ran into one
>problem when I created my set of disks, I wasn't able to write them using
>my PowerMac 8500/180. I ended up creating them using either my SE/30 or
>Powerbook 520c, I don't remember which. Basically any cheap 68k Mac with a
>1.44Mb floppy can do this.
>
>>2. Does anyone know how to get the XGS Win32 emulator working?
>
>Sounds obscene. You probably need the ROMs for the IIgs. No, I don't know
>where or how you can get them.
Got 'em. But, I still can't get it working. I'll try it on my 200 MHz "beast". (Well, compared to my former 486/66 28MB RAM 2.1GB HDD, it's REALLY NICE.)
BTW, Zane, sorry for not replying to that Linux e-mail, I've been really busy. I'll respond soon.
Tim D. Hotze
Thank but since it is an internal PSU I would rather keep it in it's
original state. I'll give the step up Xformer a try.
>Some PSUs can be easily modified to work off 110V anyway. I can give
>typical modifications if you're interested.
>
>> If so in what conditions?
>
>[...]
>
>> Francois Auradon.
>
>-tony
>
Well, I've got a comment and a question.
1. Yes, the apple software is avaible for download, but I forget where. You
need to copy it in a special way for it to work on disks. You might be able
to have a serial link, etc. do it, unless you've got a Mac, which makses it
SO easy.
2. Does anyone know how to get the XGS Win32 emulator working?
Tim D. Hotze
-----Original Message-----
From: John R. Keys Jr. <jrkeys(a)concentric.net>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Saturday, January 17, 1998 8:00 AM
Subject: Re: Got an Apple IIgs
>you can download the gs software from apple's web site for free - John
>At 10:50 PM 1/16/98 -0500, you wrote:
>> I got an Apple ][gs today form a guy in Georgia. It's a ROM 03 model
>>with 1mb of RAM, an RGB monitor and an Apple keyboard. It has no docs,
>>floppy drives, or mouse.
>>
>> Does anyone have a spare mouse, floppy drive, and maybe docs that I
can
>>buy? Which drives were available for this unit? I have mostly 5-1/4" disks
>>right now, so I'd like to get that type first, then maybe a 3-1/2".
>>
>> I have a copy of ProDOS floating around but I'd like to get a copy of
>>GS/OS. Can I run this with 1mb of RAM?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>Rich Cini/WUGNET
>> <nospam_rcini(a)msn.com> (remove nospam_ to use)
>> ClubWin! Charter Member (6)
>> MCP Windows 95/Windows Networking
>>============================================
>>
>>
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>
Well now you've done it! I actually am confused.
What do you mean by "must be derated"?
Can I use a big step up Xformer to run a monitor and computer without
risking to blow both up?
If so in what conditions?
Thanks
-----Original Message-----
From: Philip.Belben(a)powertech.co.uk <Philip.Belben(a)powertech.co.uk>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Friday, January 16, 1998 10:44 AM
Subject: Re[4]: Amstrads in the US
>> OK I'll get an EE to help me out. Did you ever used that with a monitor?
is
>> the 60 Hz vs 50 Hz a problem?
>>
>>>When I went to the US recently, I built my own 110/220V converter. I
>>>found a small (10VA) transformer that had dual 120V primaries and wired
>>>these as an autotransformer. Boxed it up in small wooden box and Bob's
>>>your uncle.
>
>As Tony pointed out, 50/60 Hz shouldn't be a problem.
>
>HOWEVER, it should be pointed out that the transformer must be capable
>of carrying the power. I used a 10VA transformer to power the one or
>two devices that had 240V only. To run monitors and things, you'd need
>100VA or so. Transformers do exist for just this sort of purpose, upto
>about 2kVA, but V. heavy!
>
>(Rule of thumb for switchmode power supplies - Look at ower consumption
>and assume 1VA = 0.6W)
>
>Finally, a tranformer designed for 60Hz must be derated to a lower
>VOLTAGE when used at 50Hz.
>
>I hope that hasn't got you all too confused.
>
>Philip.
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On 16 Jan 98 at 22:50, Richard A. Cini wrote:
> I got an Apple ][gs today form a guy in Georgia. It's a ROM 03 model
> with 1mb of RAM, an RGB monitor and an Apple keyboard. It has no docs,
> floppy drives, or mouse.
>
> Does anyone have a spare mouse, floppy drive, and maybe docs that I can
> buy? Which drives were available for this unit? I have mostly 5-1/4" disks
> right now, so I'd like to get that type first, then maybe a 3-1/2".
The ADB mouse is the same as the ones used on all Macs since the SE
and Mac II so you should have no problems finding one.
A stock IIGS will work with 3.5" 800K drives or 5.25" 140K drives
(the Unidisk 5.25). You can use older Disk II drives using a cable
adapter but it may not be worth the effort. Not all external 3.5"
drives from Apple work with the IIGS and are Mac only; the one to
look for has an eject button, platinum ribbed case and a covered D19
socket for daisy-chaining a second floppy drive.
For more information, consult the FAQs which are posted on the
comp.sys.apple2 newsgroup (beware of flame wars!) or on the web at
http://www.visi.com/~nathan/a2/index.html.
> I have a copy of ProDOS floating around but I'd like to get a
copy of > GS/OS. Can I run this with 1mb of RAM?
Version 6.0.1 of GS/OS is posted on Apple's FTP site. This version
will not do anything useful in 1Mb so look around for a memory
expansion card. A couple of companies now supply bare boards that
will take cheap 30 pin 1Mb SIMMs.
Happy Apple II Computing,
Phil
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University of Leicester
Tel (0)116 252-2231
E-Mail pb14(a)le.ac.uk
Nope I have no idea of the type of drives that are installed in there.
If you salvage it I would be interested in some parts (one of the keyboard
latches on mine is broken and I would like to replace it)
Let me know.
Thanks.
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe <rigdonj(a)intellistar.net>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Friday, January 16, 1998 11:08 PM
Subject: Re: Anybody want an Osborne?
>Francois,
>
> Well I got the Osborne. It turns out that the dealer had to move and had
>to get rid of a bunch of stuff so he was a lot more reasonable on his
>prices. I haven't had time to do anything with it yet. I probably won't
>for a few days. BTW Do you know what kind on drives are in there? They
>look like they might be some of the old Shugart SA 400s. If so I can
>probably use them to restore my old Altair. It has a disk controller for
>the SA 400s but the drives are long gone.
>
> Joe
>
-----Original Message-----
From: Uncle Roger <sinasohn(a)ricochet.net>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Friday, January 16, 1998 9:49 PM
Subject: Re: What I did this weekend
>At 01:17 PM 1/15/98, you wrote:
>>
>>
>>At 11:48 AM 1/15/98 -0600, you wrote:
>>>Tat goes without saying: placing a machine in a want list is also an
>>>engagement to purchase it. Otherwise the system would not work for too
long.
>
>Things "that go without saying" are usually what screw up the system.
>Things like that are best said up front. Better to have someone say "well,
>duh" then to have someone get stiffed.
>
I meant that it goes without saying in the scope of this discussion.
Otherwise yes we would need well planned rules.
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I saw this label on an IBM monitor in a thrift shop the other day and I
thought some of you guys might get a kick out of it. It read:
USE OF THIS DEVICE IS RESTRICTED TO IBM
MANAGEMENT APPROVED PURPOSES ONLY
and they even had a policy number for this mandate: Z229-0444-00
Beauracracy at it's finest.
Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com
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Hi,
I picked more stuff today and found some DEC hard drives in the pile.
Can anyone tell me what size they are and what machines they're for? I
*think* they may be out of a Vax, but that's a guess.
They're all full height 5 1/4" drives and they weigh a ton. The first one
is marked "digital RZ55" and has a sticker that says "1041080-08-9" and it
appears to have a SCSI interface. The second one appears to have a ST-506
interface and is a Maxtor drive and is marked "RD54-A" and "30-26245-01"
and "RQDX 3".
I also picked up a couple of keyboards that I think might be for a DEC.
The first one is a large keyboard marked "TS 803". It has 16 Pf keys along
the top and a separate numeric keypad. It's gray on top and white on the
bottom. The second keyboard is from digital and is a model LK 201. Doe
anyone know which machine it's for?
Joe
If you can get just the video loopback connector I'll be interested, one of
mine is missing it and I would like to replace it with an original.
thanks for the post.
> I found a non-working Osborne computer at a scrap dealers. I tried to
>test it but no lights came on or drives moved so I suspect a power supply
>problem. It's probably fixable without too much trouble. There is a
>similar one for sale on Auction Web. You can see pictures of it there
>"http://iguana.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4212123". The
>dealer wants $20 plus shipping. Anyone interested in it?
>
> Joe
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