I have recovered an Olivetti M21. Its an 8086 based system with floppy
disk and 20 Mb hard disk in a case reminiscent of the original Compaq.
Anyone have technical info on this beastie? I noticed an extra DA-9 (?)
connector on the mother board which is not available when the covers are
in place - what's that for?. Also the definition of the two DIP switch
blocks on the mother-board which do not seem to follow the IBM spec.
And thirdly how to get into setup, or a copy of the setup disk.
I have tentativly decided to dedicate this system to an attempt to port
the Z80 UN*X kernel that Allison mentioned a couple of weeks ago. Got it
all fired up with DOS 3.1 and Turbo C 1.5 at the moment, I will be
adding a vintage copy of BRIEF and away I go.....
As an aside, in looking through my store of 5-1/4" disks, I see I have
IBM versions of DOS 1.0, 1.10, 2.00, 3.10, and 3.30, gosh they go back a
ways. Also found some MS disks with old versions of Windows and a
GWBasic adaptation kit.
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I need to get boot and other software for an Apple Lisa with an external
profile hard disk and a built-in 3.5 inch drive.
Can anyone help me out?
Thanks...
Anthony Clifton - Wirehead
Bruce,
Thanks for the info. Here's more.
At 01:10 AM 1/17/98 -0800, you wrote:
>Hi, Joe. Let's see if I can help you ID your goodies...
>
>>They're all full height 5 1/4" drives and they weigh a ton. The first one
>>is marked "digital RZ55" and has a sticker that says "1041080-08-9" and it
>>appears to have a SCSI interface.
>
> Correct. This is a 330 MB drive. The RZ56 was a 700 or so, and the RZ57
>was a 1 gigger. They're all SCSI, generally found on the VAXStation or
>DECStation line of systems. If you absolutely have to, they should be
>usable on PCs with a low-level format.
Doesn't sound very useful on a PC. I have two of each drive. If anyone
has need for them for an old DEC, let me know. You can swap me something
for them. Allison gets first shot since SHE has allready mentioned that
SHE can use them. One of the Rd-54s has a paper tag that says "MVE 11A
VMS 5.4.2 ACSIM". Does that sound useful to anyone? Of course, it may not
still be one thre, but it probably is.
>
>>The second one appears to have a ST-506 interface and is a Maxtor drive
>and is marked >"RD54-A" and "30-26245-01" and "RQDX 3".
>
> This is a 170 meg MFM drive, intended for use in the MicroPDP or MicroVAX
>lines, or any other DEC system using an RQDX3 controller. It is the same as
>a Maxtor XT2190.
>
> The LK201 is the standard DEC keyboard for just about everything from
>their VT220 terminals to the MicroVAX, VAXStation, and DECStation line.
>
> The numbers you're reading off for the boards don't make any sense. DEC
>numbers are typically a single letter, usually M, followed by four digits.
>Look on the ejector handles and the card bracket. If the board was not made
>by DEC, it may not have this marking.
I can't find any number that starts with M. One card is marked " L P W
R digital GS-2 34888-4909" across the top edge. The second card is
marked " L P W R digital GS-2 03789-6028" across the top edge. But
both cards look the same. The other number is on a paper label. They have
a LOT of ICs on them marked "TC511000AJ-10". And there is a VERY large IC
near the center of the board. There is also a red and yellow LED on the
top edge.
Joe
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-----Original Message-----
From: John Higginbotham <higginbo(a)netpath.net>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Tuesday, January 13, 1998 9:24 PM
Subject: Re: Firsts
>At 09:32 PM 1/13/98 -0600, you wrote:
>
>>>The TRS-80 Model 100 and it's amigos the Nec 8201 and Olivetti ??? had
>
>>Visit the SANCTUARY at http://home.att.net/~francois.auradonhat's probably
>>why they are called laptops and not portables.
>
>Shoot, it's not even a laptop. I've seen Pentium notebooks bulkier than a
>M100. :)
>
>
>-John Higginbotham-
>-limbo.netpath.net-
The firsts laptops used to have handle (I'm talking XT's and 286s) but I
guess these were removed to make the machine smaller and lighter.
By the way they are not laptops either; I always have to find a table to put
them on so I can use them. If I put them on my lap I'm always afraid to drop
them ;-)
I'll try not to insert the signature in the middle of the message this
time:)
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Visit the SANCTUARY at http://home.att.net/~francois.auradon
>You still don't have it working? What problems are you having? If you want,
>I'll email you a complete working version. The file should be under .5 mb.
Sounds good. The instructions are a little vague, and when I can't get
anything to recognise anything else. Just e-mail it to
photze(a)batelco.com.bh ; to aviod anyone else recieving .5MB that they don't
need/want.
Thanks,
Tim D. Hotze
Heh, i bought a surplus monitor from work after they upgraded to g50 monitors
and pc330 systems. i got an 8515 with the same sticker on it! i was thinking
about removing it, but i think i might keep it now!
i think it was really a documented effort to make sure people werent doing non
work environment things on their workstations in accordance with business
conduct guidelines. (no games, no www.xxx.com, etc)
In a message dated 98-01-17 01:57:20 EST, you write:
<< I saw this label on an IBM monitor in a thrift shop the other day and I
thought some of you guys might get a kick out of it. It read:
USE OF THIS DEVICE IS RESTRICTED TO IBM
MANAGEMENT APPROVED PURPOSES ONLY
and they even had a policy number for this mandate: Z229-0444-00
Beauracracy at it's finest. >>
Okay, here I go.
I have a PDP-11/83. It boots a very limited version of RSX-11M. (Sysgen
is gone, no multi users, etc.) That's boring. I also have a RSTS/E distrib
tape. 9-track tape. I don't have a Q-bus magtape controller.
But, I do have an MT: emulating controller and drive attached to the PDP-11/34A.
It works. I have read and written to the tape. Reading is fine, writing
is iffy due to a braindamaged bootdisk (Not the new RT-11 set -an old one with
MT.SYS on it) that Caterpillar made.
The important part comes here. I have a thing called a DW-11B (I think).
Anyway, it's a Unibus to Q-bus converter. One end goes in the Unibus
box, and the other goes in the Q-bus box. Putting the Q-bus end
in the 83, and the Unibus end in the 34, I'd be able to talk to the
MT: controller, right? (I'd have to remove the 34A CPU, so it doesn't
screw with the bus, right?)
Does this sound OK, or am I missing something?
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>>>2. Does anyone know how to get the XGS Win32 emulator working?
>>
>>Sounds obscene. You probably need the ROMs for the IIgs. No, I don't
know
>>where or how you can get them.
>Got 'em. But, I still can't get it working. I'll try it on my 200 MHz
"beast". (Well, compared to my former 486/66 28MB RAM 2.1GB HDD, it's
REALLY NICE.)
> BTW, Zane, sorry for not replying to that Linux e-mail, I've been
really busy. I'll respond soon.
> Tim D. Hotze
You still don't have it working? What problems are you having? If you want,
I'll email you a complete working version. The file should be under .5 mb.
-- Kirk
A while ago, I mentioned that I had a DECMate III, the one without
the hard drive. It has two DECWrite manuals, a disk set for the same,
and miscellaneous incompatible junk (like Windows 1.0 for the Rainbow)
Could anyone tell me what OS I can use on this, where I can get it,
and how to install it. The DEC is not at my house, and any mistake will
last me at least a week until I can go back to it. Also, a short essay
on the OS wouldn't hurt. A supplementary question: how do I get PPP on
Minix?
Yet another question: what are the power requirements of an IBM
System/34?
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>Okay, so I have a C-64c, 1541 floppy, and monitor. Now how exactly would I
>go about downloading programs from the internet on my PC machine and
>porting them over to the Commodore? Will I need a special serial cable? I
>have the 64 boxed up at the moment so can't really tell what I need.
Let's assume you do not have an IBM clone or access to one...
First you would download the file from the FTP site.
Second while on the (I assume more powerful) internet connecting
machine you uncompress the file if it is compressed (usually ZIPped I've
seen).
Third, Transfer it to the 64. Now if it is a D64 file you will need
to save it to a drive that has a larger capacity then a 1541, such as a
1571, 1581, 256k+ REU w/ramdisk running or a CMD Hard Drive. The
easiest transfer would be via modem to modem or a simple null-modem
cable (plans are on the net), there are other options including making
your IBM, Amiga or whatever act as a slave drive for your 64 and just
doing a file copy... (special cable like x1541 needed)
Finaly (if nesessary) convert the file, it it is .D64 there are a few
d64 to 1541 utilities out there for both the 64 and 128. T64 is a
different story, it will need to go to tape, and even though I know it
can be done I am unsure whether or not a utility exists yet for the 64.
Now you should be able to load and run the program (note some of the
programs may have problems due to being either written for NTSC or PAL
video modes and your computer being the other... :/
Larry Anderson
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