>First, my apologies. I didn't mean for my original message to be sent
>public.
Sam, this is a big step for you.... ;-)
>On Fri, 6 Feb 1998, Daniel A. Seagraves wrote:
>
>> The name hacker has been dragged through the mud for far too long.
>> There's almost no real record of the 1st and 2nd generation hacks. (1st
>> were the hacks at MIT. 2nd were those at Berkeley and elsewhere, who
>> adjusted the Hacker Ethic to allow for making money. 3rd are the
>> present-day warez loosers. [They're here for refrence. Technically,
>
>Not true. Read _Hackers_ by Steven Levy. It embodies the tale of the
>first two generations you mentioned and then also goes into the game
>hackers of the early 80s on microcomputers. An excellent book. I've read
>it twice (first in 1988) and may bring it on my next trip to read again.
Can you please get the ISBN for that?
>As far as the warez-loozers, well, they are just that, warez-loozers, and
>will be a footnote in some future book.
But nothing more. I dispise them. I've got a friend, who's brother claims
to know "hackers" who own looser warez sites. I asked them to get into my
system. They tried for 2 hours, and they eventually were convinced that I
WAS running Windows 2.0. ;-) Now, he knows how to "semi-hack" but hadn't
HEARD of C/C++, and thought that Unix was dead. He didn't even know about
the "clear" Linux command!!! Hacking into a NT system is... not un-hard.
>> they don't count]) All that survives to the actual public is the image
>> of some cybernerd on drugs with wild hair maliciously attacking big
>> companies just to be a punk. My brother hates computers, and he's
>> closer to THAT description than I am.
>
>Heheh. So true, unfortunately. The other extreme is the
>fat-pud-who-eats-while-he's-hacking stereotype and then the
>thick-glasses-total-dweeb-high-pitched-voice-hacker stereotype.
And then there's the nerdy NASA mission-control type revenge guy.
>> Of course, I'm still not as good as the 1st-gen guys. I can't solder
>> any good, I have nearly no idea how to wire-wrap or use a slide rule,
>> and I can't do number conversion in my head yet. I'm not very good at
>> math. (I can do it with a calculator, but I tend to drop numbers left
>> and right with big variables) I still have some to go... -------
>
>That's all myth, Daniel (except for the number-conversion-in-the-head,
>starting working at it :). The fact is, you don't NEED to know how to
>wire-wrap or use a slide-rule. They would be impressive skills and might
>get you a date some day, but if we still NEEDED to use those tools to this
>day then we wouldn't have progressed much in the realm of technology and
>that would be very sucky.
What are the requirements for being a hacker? ;-)
Tim D. Hotze
Does anyone need a Mac mono monitor? Model number MO400, circa 1987. Best
offer takes it, no matter how pathetic. Recipient either pays shipping or
picks it up in the LA area (it's not heavy at all, I can't imagine that ups
ground would be more than a few bucks on this thing).
Aaron
An exciting thrift day for me; I found a book I've been looking for for a
while now - the "Applesoft BASIC Programmer's Reference Manual" for the
Apple II. It's a hardcover in perfect condition, even the tear-out
reference card is intact! I got that and one from Digital press, "Technical
Aspects of Data Communication, 2nd edition" (1982), both for about 2 bucks.
I happened along a Motorola/Codex 2131 csu/dsu. Anybody know anything about
this little beauty? I couldn't find much on the 'net about it, but it's
obviously a 9600b csu/dsu with a nifty design.
Cheers,
Aaron
Recent postings about old calculating machines and their operation has
prompted me to fire up a web page with some information on my Contex-30
electromechanical calculator. For now I have some images up and have
transcribed the operating instructions on the back.
I am sure many of you will be stunned by how division is performed on this
device; in any case, I welcome comments on the page, the calculator, and
the idea of creating a museum for my other calculating devices.
Myself, I collect precisely this sort of wierd technology. Boy, they sure
don't make them like THAT anymore. Thank goodness :)
Please visit
Wierd Computing Machines
http://www.comcen.com.au/~adavie/wierd/
Cheers
Andrew Davie
adavie(a)mad.scientist.com
PS: You may also like to visit my other two sites..
Museum of Soviet Calculators
http://www.comcen.com.au/~adavie/slide/calculator/soviet.html
Slide Rule Trading Post
http://www.comcen.com.au/~adavie/slide/
thinkpad 700 and 720x are mca thinkpads. had a 3 year warranty and dont share
any parts with any other thinkpad. of course, windont95 wont work on them,
although linux probably would since it's been coaxed to work on other mca
boxes.
david
One finds the best stuff at thrift stores. Check out what I found today:
The Anatomy of the 1541 Disk Drive
By Abacus Software, 1984
ISBN: 0-916439-01-1
It contains a full description of the file system, the file structure, the
file commands, and also has a full 6502 assembler listing for the drive's
ROM! Very cool. This book apparently also came with a "Test/Demo" disk
but the programs are printed in the book so they can be duplicated. What
a treasure.
Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com
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Anyone know where I can acquire an Intel i86 and/or i286 development set
with software (asm, link, etc) and docs? Used is fine, of course, but
the software must be intact.
Thanks,
Mike
(I'm in Utah, BTW if anyone has one close...)
Thanks...
I haven't got time to reply in detail, but be warned.
1. The IBM cards that went in the 3270PC range were _not_ the same as
those they sold as upgrades - the latter drove ordinary displays, etc.
2. There were many popular 3rd party 3270 (3278/3279) emulator cards
available, the best known being IRMA.
Philip
BTW I was wrong about the 5272 - it is 720 x 350 x 8 resolution.
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Tony.
I just happened to have my cards out for cleaning.
Yours seems a bit different. I wonder if it's earlier or an expansion
card for the pc/xt to give it 3270 comm capability.
My connection card has:
The BNC
2x8435
a BUNCH of gates or st, these 74L???
no memory that I can see (the computer has 640k)
a clock/crystal marked 14.1523 mhz (1589449)
Some IBM chips
2x 5617135
????
I dunno...
Mike
Tony Duell wrote:
> I have what I believe to be an interface card from a 3270 PC here. It's a
> full-length 8 bit card with PC/3278 on it. The main chips are :
> N8X305N (microcontroller)
> 3 off ROMs (15527-15529, Copyright 1983)
> 4 off 6116 RAM
> DP8340 and DP8341 (Some kind of interface chip...)
> Assorted TTL glue
> Passives, including a reed relay
>
> There's a single BNC connector on the bracket. There's also an expansion
> edge connector at the top front, which seems to be linked to the ROM
> pins/the microcontroller.
>
> -tony
Okay, I'm working on the next batch of computers for my web pages, and am
looking for any anecdotes, links, resources, or specs relating to these
computers:
Compaq Portable 386
HP 75D
Iasis Computer-in-a-book (8080)
Panasonic Senior Partner
Amstrad PC-20
NEC Starlet
Panasonic HHC
Seequa Chameleon
Sharp PC-4
TI Compact Computer 40
Specifically, the data points I list in my specs table are:
{mfr}
{location}
{model}
{processor}
{speed}
{opsys}
{bits-int}
{bits-data}
{ram-min}
{ram-max}
{rom}
{input}
{display}
{stor-cas}
{stor-fdd}
{stor-hdd}
{ports-ser}
{ports-par}
{ports-kbd}
{ports-joy}
{ports-oth}
{expansion}
{intro}
{discon}
{cost}
{size}
{weight}
{power-volt}
{power-conn}
{power-polar}
{notes}
A lot of these I can pull from the machines themselves myself as I sit down
to do each one, and for some I have manuals, but I really appreciate any
info anyone can offer. Also, stories of your experiences buying one new,
or how you always wanted one, or rumours, or what have are definitely
welcome.
Thanks!
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At 08:10 PM 2/7/98 -0800, you wrote:
>As for the Atari, the clones are coming out of Germany, and mainly targeted
>at the Music industry. The Atari's have built in Midi. I've a couple, and
Not only Midi, but also great software and (Falcon (68030) and beyond) a
DSP port for right-out-of-the-box direct-to-disk digitial recording.
Cubase Audio (about $600 new, I think) gave you 16 channels of digital
recording. (included software wasn't serious and only gave you two
channels.) All you needed was a lot of diskspace and something to record.
When the Falcon came out, it was one of the only affordable D2D solutions
available. And now, with CD-Recorders running around left and right...
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