Joe <rigdonj(a)intellistar.net> wrote:
>>OK, let's say I pull an old PC and some boxes out of a dumpster, and
>>there's a set of original AutoCAD Release 9 disks. By your rule, how
>>can I tell if I own a legit copy or not?
>
> Real simple. It they're original disks then it's a legit copy! Doesn't
>matter if it came from a dumpster or not.
No, it's not necessarily a legit copy. Autodesk sold one license
of the software, not one for each upgrade. You can't give away your
old disks if you upgrade. Licenses do not multiply when you upgrade.
>But unless you specificly agreed to that BEFORE you bought the software
>they can't hold you to it. The shrink-wrapped "agreements" are completely
>worthless. The US federal courts have made that ruling several times.
Leaving aside your quick dismissal of swaths of software precedent,
how exactly do you define "separate, licensed copies of software"?
Your "disk equals license" rule seems far too wishy-washy to me.
What's special about a disk? Are you saying that every copy a
company sends you is a separate "copy" that can be given away?
- John
Jefferson Computer Museum <http://www.threedee.com/jcm>
> Or maybe a moth.
> One of my favourite pictures - but is this a myth as WELL as a moth?
> http://wwwcsif.cs.ucdavis.edu/~csclub/museum/items/first_bug.html
> Can anyone confirm this is the origin of the term "bug"?
> Its a nice site for Classic computer collectors, anyway.
A few years ago someone wrote a letter to the editor of Scientific
American about this moth. The letter quoted a letter from Thomas Edison
which uses "bug" in this way and explains the term.
The moth can at most claim to be the first time a bug was caused by a
_real_ bug.
Roger Ivie
ivie(a)cc.usu.edu
Sorry David, it's taken. It took about 5 minutes....
Cheers,
Aaron
At 10:56 AM 2/11/98 EST, you wrote:
>yes! i need one! glad to pay shipping to nc. is it available?
>
>david
>
>
>In a message dated 98-02-10 15:25:34 EST, you write:
>
><< Does anyone need a Mac mono monitor? Model number MO400, circa 1987. Best
> offer takes it, no matter how pathetic. Recipient either pays shipping or
> picks it up in the LA area (it's not heavy at all, I can't imagine that ups
> ground would be more than a few bucks on this thing). >>
>
>
I added another 50+ volumes to the Vintage Computer Library today. A very
ecclectic bunch of books, manuals, leaflets (no I didn't count the
leaflets). I love collecting the books because in the dry times where I
don't find much hardware they still can give that "what a find!" thrill,
especially when you find a book from the 60's (or sometimes even the
50's!) on data processing or computer science with lots of nice pictures
of old data processing gear.
However, today's quick trip to the thrift store produced a very cool piece
of hardware. I found a California Access "Bodega Bay". It's an Amiga 500
expansion chassis! First of all, Bodega Bay is a cute play on words,
since that is also the name of a northern California coastal town, perhaps
where this particular piece of hardware was manufactured. I remember last
year picking up a California Access 3.5" floppy drive with a DB-25
connector, and now I know what it went to!
The chassis is a desktop PC sized case. Inside there is a passive
backplane with several slots. There are two cards occupying two of the
slots. One is a memory board and the other is a hard disk controller. The
chassis also houses an ST-225 hard drive. The 3.5" floppy was removed
>from the A500 and re-installed inside the chassis. What is very
interesting about the backplane is that it also seems to have 4 PC-style
16-bit slots. I only had an 8-bit card handy to try out but it fit
perfectly in the "8-bit" portion of the slot. I am almost sure this unit
could allow one to use IBM compatible hardware. Am I wrong about this?
The passive backplane extends into a protrusion coming out the front of
the chassis and plugs into the side expansion slot of the A500, which
connects neatly to the chassis to form one unified computer system.
Does anyone have any solid technical information on this? Unfortunately
in all the books and manuals I brought home not one was for this thing.
Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com
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I'm sure someone in the Toronto area would like to help Ennio out. Please
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Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 10:14:33 -0500
From: ENNIO CELLUCCI <ennio.cellucci(a)Canada.Sun.COM>
To: vcf(a)siconic.com
Subject: TRS 80 model II
Hi,
I was hoping you could help me. I have an old TRS 80 model II I just
don't have room for anymore. It comes with three BIG hard drives
(physical size rather than storage capacity). Would you happen to know
anyone in the Toronto area willing to give it a home?
Thanks...Ennio
yes! i need one! glad to pay shipping to nc. is it available?
david
In a message dated 98-02-10 15:25:34 EST, you write:
<< Does anyone need a Mac mono monitor? Model number MO400, circa 1987. Best
offer takes it, no matter how pathetic. Recipient either pays shipping or
picks it up in the LA area (it's not heavy at all, I can't imagine that ups
ground would be more than a few bucks on this thing). >>
Or maybe a moth.
One of my favourite pictures - but is this a myth as WELL as a moth?
http://wwwcsif.cs.ucdavis.edu/~csclub/museum/items/first_bug.html
Can anyone confirm this is the origin of the term "bug"?
Its a nice site for Classic computer collectors, anyway.
Cheers
Andrew
At 09:35 AM 2/11/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Yes, indeed the term "bug" is older than th earliest electrical computer.
>As eveidence, one could check out some of the 1930s issues of QST (a
>hamradio magazine), and the term shows up. If I could dig them out, I
>could give you exact dates.
I seem to remember a certain species of cockroach that was quite fond of
wire insulation...
- John Higginbotham
- limbo.netpath.net
Joe <rigdonj(a)intellistar.net> wrote:
>If you have the original disk then that is normally considered proof
>that you have a legal copy of the software.
...
> You're trying to read too much into this. I never said the having one
>copy of disks allowed you to have all the upgrades or newer versions. If
>you have a set of original disks for XYZ v 1.0, then that is generally
>considered proof of ownership of XYZ v 1.0 PERIOD.
OK, let's say I pull an old PC and some boxes out of a dumpster, and
there's a set of original AutoCAD Release 9 disks. By your rule, how
can I tell if I own a legit copy or not?
- John
Jefferson Computer Museum <http://www.threedee.com/jcm>
Is there a command to make TOPS-20 kill something from the mail queue BEFORE
it gets sent? That's really aggrivating(sp?) when you see so(a)and.so#Internet -- Queued and you realize that's NOT the intended reciever, and it sits in the
queue for awhile before getting sent, and theoretically you COULD stop it but
I can't figure out how...
Go ahead and (all but Sam) disregard that!
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