>I have a bajangle[1] of VMS CD's (from a friend) but only one boots
>(labeled VMS 7.1 Binaries)... It seems to boot VMS (for the very little
>I've ever seen of VMS -- Why didn't I pay attention over the last few
>years... ;-) but it's a very stripped VMS as the only command that seems to
>exist is the "b" command, which seems to invoke some form of backup command
>that can take a "/IMAGE" parameter that I can't seem to get working...
Ok I don't have the paper handy but thats the disk you want. the bootable
image is standalone backup and is used to copy and start the real install.
>Does VMS install from a backup type file, or do I not have any actual
>install CD's?
Yes, from a backup. Sounds like you have the right disk. All you needs is a
license and instructions. The license see the DECUS.org site for and also
check Montagar.com as they supply a $30 VMS 7.1 cd for those that don't
have.
>BTW, main disk is DKA0, subdisk is DKA200, floppy is DKA500, and CDROM is
>DKB400.
Ok... DKAnnn means SCSI A disk 0->7 as in 0, 100, 200...700. DKBnnn
is the second scsi bus.
The typical drive IDs are any other than 6 (thats the vax). What device is
the default boot is based on a SET command. You can have no default set in
which case it powers up to the system command prompt, making and addressable
device (disk, tape, network) bootable using the correct >>> B {device}.
>Ultrix seems to run fine from DKA200, but seems kinda slow... (of course,
>this is in comparison to running Linux on a dual-processor P2-350 w/256Meg
>RAM, but in these days of instant gratification... ;-)
Well keeping mind the 3100 you have was fast when 386dx33s and 486DX33s
were the hot stuff. You'll find that in some ways it's faster than that
dual P350!
Just load it down and then ask it do do a directory...
>BTW, when the machine boots (to the ROM monitor) I get the F...E...D...
>etc.. with all dots until it gets to (IIRC, machine home, me work):
>
>3_..2_..1?..
>
>and then spits out what appears to be a memory address. Ethernet's not
Fairly normal selftest (like PC post). There is a list somewhere for wehat
that means. Also the boot monitor has a fairly long list of commands for
doing things like INITing disks and such. Check some of the links at the
NetBSD VAX-port
area. The 3100 series is pretty popular and lots of them around.
>hooked up -- any chance one of those is the network interface saying
>"Hello... Anybody out there?" and any speculation as if the machine might
>have some heartburn?
Yes, Sounds like that one has the ESA0 (eithernet) set to boot using DEC
MOP protocal. Yes, once VMS is on it you can have that one MOP load
another(or even install to it!)!
Allison
"Mike" <dogas(a)leading.net> said:
> Wow. UPS just delivered and opening the boxes was better than sex. =
> Newly aquired: a complete COSMAC Development System IV. =20
>
> Check out:=20
> http://users.leading.net/~dogas/classiccmp/cosmac/cosmac.htm
>
> Included with the pile were also about 65 original RCA documents =
> covering Cosmac systems and options (that are listed in the above URL.) =
> If anyone needs any related into looked up or copied...
Mike,
I just wanted to publicly, that this is damn nice of you to offer this
information. I've been able to find plenty of information on all of my
ELF computers, but the development systems is another story.
I'll do the rest of my groveling offline. :)
--Doug
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Doug Coward dcoward(a)pressstart.com (work)
Sr. Software Eng. mranalog(a)home.com (home)
Press Start Inc. http://www.pressstart.com
Sunnyvale,CA
Curator
Analog Computer Museum and History Center
http://www.best.com/~dcoward/analog
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There is a VAX 11/730 available in Minneapolis. Obviously i'm not shipping
it, or having anything to do with it. if you want it, and can come tpick it
up in minneapolis, i can put you in contact with the person who has it.
Otherwise, i will of course attempt to grab any useful boards and such
before it goes to the recyclers. At that time, i would then post what
is available to the list.
-Lawrence LeMay
lemay(a)cs.umn.edu
Ok, here are the details for as much as I could figure them out (I am not
too terribly familiar with the Apollo).
It is an Apollo series 400, manufactured 9-14-90. This is an operational
unit. The keyboard and screen (big) are present. There is a tape unit behind
the front bay door. The backplane has tons of connectors, notably:
- Lan
- Parallel
- SCSI
- Thin Lan
- RS-232
- Video board: A1416A (BNC RGB connectors)
There are actually 2 screens close to this machine. The HP that I assume
came with the unit, but there also is an Intergraph screen as a companion to
a working Intergraph workstation.. All are in working order.
I have no idea of the size of the the hard disk on the Apollo. I could
investigate further if you are interested. This unit is sitting in a
computer recycling building. It bears a price tag of $50 (canadian). The
Intergraph is in the same price range.
----------------
The back of this building has a lot of big iron stuff. DEC, Honeywell,
etc... There are some hard disk assemblies the size of a coffee table. Tons
of packed and wrapped Gandalf chassis & communications equipment (Gandalf
recently ceased activities in Ottawa - their stock obviously ended up in
this warehouse.). Saw a number of MicroVax servers & workstations. Tons of
Sparc workstations and cubes... Couple of fridge-size tape units. Cases of
VAX-looking circuit boards. Most of the stuff looks in working order.
There was a Silicon Graphics system there 2 days ago. Gone today... of
course.
And the list goes on. The stuff does not stay there very long. It ends up in
a smleter for chmical and metal separation.
Frederic
I have one on my web site
http://www.pdp8.net/lang/index.shtml
This is for the PS/8 Focal which also runs under OS/8 but is a little
different in file operations than the Focal in the PDP-8 programming
handbook. Scanning the programming handbook has been on the todo list
for a while. I think the paper tape version should be a subset of
this.
The System User's Guide for PDP-8/I PDP-8/L and PDP-8 PDP-8/S PDP-5
also has a section on Focal. It seems to be missing from highgate
so I have put it in http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~djg/ It appears
that all the other links don't work any more but this page is only
a temporary home until things get moved to the correct location.
Looks like I need to check the highgate collection against mine to
see what else didn't make it.
David Gesswein
My search continues for a TU56. If anybody knows where I can find one, I
have many DEC and non-DEC items available for trade. I am also looking
for 5 G-888 modules to fill out the empty spaces on my TC11.
Thanks to all in advance,
Brian.
In a message dated 4/26/00 12:54:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
technoid(a)cheta.net writes:
> I keep hearing rumors that Packard Bell is out of business. As a tech I
> can say I haven't seen any really new ones in a while. Never a PB PII or
> K6-2 machine. Whats the deal? Thier website is up and makes no mention
> of any trouble.
they were bought up by NEC IIRC. i did see some PB models a few months ago
when i did onsite warranty work. to their credit, the latest models were
standard ATX form factor machines, but still cheaply made.
DB Young ICQ: 29427634
view the computers of yesteryear at
http://members.aol.com/suprdave/classiccmp/museum.htm
--You can lead a whore to Vassar, but you can't make her think--
Today we received a donation of a lot of odds and ends, but a nice Wang VS-15
with some very large archiver chassis, a 2593 cabinet and boxes of
manuals, especially for PACE. Also a Televideo server, PM-N4? or similar
number and a Televideo terminal. A number of derelict PC's, mostly good
for parts, etc.
Next month we go to Canada to get a Burroughs system.
On Apr 26, 14:12, Pat Barron wrote:
> I've decided that, as soon as I can get a scanner and a copy of Adobe
> Acrobat 4.0 (i.e., the full version, not just the reader), I'm going to
> cut the pages out of the binding on my copy and scan it in. It breaks my
> heart to do that, but the paper is deteriorating really badly, and it's
> not going to last all that much longer anyway.
You won't be the first to do that, and in the long run, it's probably the
kindest thing to do to it if you do it properly. Before you do, though,
take a look at http://www.cs.uiowa.edu/~jones/book/index.html -- if
you've not already seen it.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Dept. of Computer Science
University of York
Hey, that sounds like a really neat idea! I recently picked up 5 VLC units
and would love to do something similar. Would you mind if I tried to
piggy-back off your efforts?
-- Tony
> ----------
> From: Zane H. Healy[SMTP:healyzh@aracnet.com]
> Reply To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
> Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2000 2:34 AM
> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
> Subject: VAXstation 4000VLC
>
> On the topic of VAXstations, does anyone one the list have experience with
> hacking VLC's and or LCD's? I'm wondering how feasable it would be to
> hook
> an LCD display up to a VLC, and if it would be possible with off the shelf
> hardware.
>
> The other alternative I'm thinking of would be to pickup a cheap laptop,
> load Linux/X-Windows on it, and use it as an intelligent X-Terminal.
>
> At this point, you're probably asking, what on Earth am I trying to do.
> Well, I've decided I want a VAX "Laptop", and while I really doubt I can
> have it battery powered I want to see what I can do starting with a VLC as
> the base. I figure as long as I can get the final product about the size
> of an old Toshiba 5200 I'm on the right track. Of course I'm also
> thinking
> that if I can find the time to do this and do it right I'll have to build
> my own case for all the guts of the pieces.
>
> If nothing else a VLC and a Laptop used as a terminal should make a nice
> small easily portable VAX. I figure I'll initially try this out with my
> Mac PowerBook 540c since it's got built in ethernet and I can run eXodus
> on
> it for DECwindows support. However, as the 540c is only 640x480 I figure
> it's only good for a couple Mac telnet windows or a DECterm via X.
>
> Anyone have any ideas? I hope to start in on this next weekend, but it
> will depend on how soon the VLC I just bought for this takes to get here.
>
> As for the why, well, why not :^)
>
> Zane
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