>The most truly amazing surplus story I've ever heard was that of a fellow that
>acquired a surplus Plutonium processing plant from INEL, up in Idaho. The
>government managed to stop him from shipping it to India, but it was a close
>thing.
A close second was when the Air Force was auctioning off their never-used
Vandenberg space shuttle launch pad and auxilluary equipment. Sure, it
doesn't do you any good until you've got a shuttle to launch, but who here
wouldn't want to say "We already got one" to this?
--
Tim Shoppa Email: shoppa(a)trailing-edge.com
Trailing Edge Technology WWW: http://www.trailing-edge.com/
7328 Bradley Blvd Voice: 301-767-5917
Bethesda, MD, USA 20817 Fax: 301-767-5927
One of my favorite surplus stories is when Intel sold us a new in the carton
Cryogenic compressor as part of a large lot. It turns out it was a spare for
the process line. Within a couple of weeks of us taking possession the main
compressor failed. We sold it back for more than the price of the lot. We
didn't soak them, we wanted more of their surplus.
Someone in Seattle should go look at the "gene sequencer" and see what the
Teletype is hooked up to. It could be a nice collectable.
Paxton
>Cp/M was a cross-platform operating system with several layers to provide
>support for any platform for which the base functions of CP/M were
>compiled. In other words, if your machine boots cp/m then you can run the
>vast majority of CP/M programs. Some you won't. A good example of a
>situation in which a program cannot run is if it takes advantage of
>non-standard system calls to access the video subsystem. There are quite
>a few of these programs but most are commercial such as CPT system
>accounting, spreadsheet and word processing. The CPT had a very custom
>full-page physical display.
Well thats only true if unique BIOS calls or direct IO was done. If you
used the
standard BDOS calls then compatability was assured save for sillyness like
terminal control sequences.
The worst offenders for this were the modem programs as they needed speed
and CPM could but often didn't have interrupt driven IO or IOBYTE
implemented.
>Probably the most important setting in CP/M is your terminal settings.
>CP/M software will run on anything but does have to be informed as to what
>termninal type (ie ADM3a, Soroc, Televideo, Etcetera) in order to operate
>correctly. --
Often taken care of in the install program.
>Hi, I'm Doug and I collect AOL disks. Well, not really, but I do have
>*one*. AOL actually produced a disk that was labeled "collector's
>edition". I found it so funny that I saved it -- sort of a self-fulfilling
>prophecy....
I use AOL, Earthlink and CS cdroms for things like IE4.01 as
cdrom and there are other items buried on them like patches and
infamous SPn kits from MS with security fixes. I don't however
collect them as collectables and teh excess are cut up as sun
catchers. ;)
Allison
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> From: healyzh(a)aracnet.com
> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
> Subject: Re: AOL Disks Collectable
> Date: Thursday, April 27, 2000 09:01 PM
>
> Someone mind explaining what possible reason *ANYONE* could have for
wanting
> to collect AOL disks!
I actually do have a set of AOL disks I am keeping. It installs the old
GeoWorks desktop instead of using Windows. I do not know if I will ever
use them, though.
Paul R. Santa-Maria
Ann Arbor, Michigan USA
paulrsm(a)ameritech.net
Hi. I've recently acquired an original Macintosh Portable, without any of
the accompanying paraphenalia, most notably the AC adapter. I'm currently
hunting for a PowerBook 1xx adapter, which I'm told is usable with the
Portable, but in the meantime, I'm looking for other ways to fire up this
new Mac to check it out.
According to the specs, the Portable AC adapter is 1.5 amps at 7.5 volts,
center positive.
I have one of those "universal" AC adapters that can do 7.5 V, but only 300
mA. If I plug in this adapter to the Portable, will the internal battery
eventually obtain a usable charge (assuming it's not totally dead, as so
many are)?
Any suggestions gratefully received.
Mark Gregory
I have an Apple II with a Z80 card, and lots of CP/M disks for it but I'm
having a problem opening the .ASM and .BAS files. I thumbed through a book
on both Mbasic and CP/M but neither of these books clearly describe how to
work with these files.
The Mbasic books says to open Mbasic, and at the "OK" prompt type RUN
"B:MAINT.BAS" (for example)but when I do that, it gives me a "Direct
Statement in file" message, and then it goes back to the "OK" prompt.
I don't have a clue how to work with the .ASM files -like SUPRTRK3.ASM or
BLKFRI2.ASM. I can see that they are games by typing TYPE SUPRTRK3.ASM but
the text flies by so fast that I can't see much else.
I have a lot of disks that have nothing but .BAS and .ASM files so any help
that you can give me would be appreciated.
Also, I have one disk that has a single large file called PILOTA.LST. What
do I do with that?
Thanks for your help.
Ernest
>> That is, DIR <...> ?
>
>Can I be curious? I left off I think (1988) before angle brackets
>came in to existence, or at least in use at my office.
They're compatible with the more conventional "[" and "]" brackets for
specifying directories in VMS. The general concensus seems to be that they
were put in so folks migrating from TOPS-20 (where angle brackets are the
standard way of specifying directories) would be more comfortable.
Tim.
Rumor has it that Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) may have mentioned these words:
>Why collect AOL disks?
>Because, at least for the older ones before they switched to CD, they are
>easier to reformat than beenie babies or Pokemon cards.
I don't think so... I can reformat beenie babies & Pokemon cards *very*
easily! You just need the right equipment.[1] Come to think of it, I can
even reformat AOL CD's with the same equipment!
Roger "Merch" Merchberger
[1] The right equipment in this case being a Chainsaw... ;-)
--
Roger "Merch" Merchberger --- sysadmin, Iceberg Computers
Recycling is good, right??? Ok, so I'll recycle an old .sig.
If at first you don't succeed, nuclear warhead
disarmament should *not* be your first career choice.
At 09:54 AM 4/28/00 -0700, you wrote:
>A few days ago, I walked into a no-name rummage shop, on Pine and Summit in
>Seattle, and found a large Gene Sequencer, with attached teletype, ...
> ... like from the late sixties-early seventies (just a guess.)
The interesting thing for this list is that often times there is a classic
computer "buried" inside these things. If its late sixties it could be a
PDP-8, if it is early 70s it could be a PDP-11. Or a Honeywell 160, etc
etc. Why not go back, try to follow the teletype connections back to the
innards and see what is inside.
--Chuck