> From: Terry Stewart
> If I had to go to that extent of writing it as a robust, referenced,
> refereed, definitive technical article, I probably wouldn't bother.
Sure. Neither would I. But how is this relevant to the CHWiki question?
Noel
The title might suggest to topic is not vintage, but the reason I did this
myself was to facilitate classic computer disk imaging.
I?ve recently given USB drive capability to the MS-DOS 7.1 environment in a
Windows 98SE computer I use for the purpose above. It was a bit of work
configuring the machine to ensure both the MS-DOS drivers and the Windows
98SE drivers co-existed peacefully.
I'm no Windows 98 guru (or MS-DOS guru for that matter) so it may not be
the most efficient or elegant of solutions. However, it worked for me. That
being the case I thought I?d document what I did.
Hopefully the article will be useful to others who might want to do this.
http://www.classic-computers.org.nz/blog/2018-02-05-USB-in-MS-DOS-and-Win98…
Terry (Tez)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/311965565048
The same seller has a VT180 and some variant of the VT100 with an expansion board
I don't recognize
Interesting thing about the blank board is it says "VT-11X" on it and it looks like
it would have been an 8-bit CPU looking at the string of DRAMs on it.
I haven't been in the San Francisco area in about 30 years.
I remember a number of used computer/electronics stores back then, can't
remember any names except Weird Stuff Warehouse.
Are there any stores that are worth a visit?
What about outside of the SF area?
Doug
Hi folks,
Clearing out some of the larger DEC pieces I have, does anyone want these before I offer them to the Centre For Computing History? They?d need to be collected from Cambridgeshire, or I can deliver them if the distance is reasonable. I kind of need the space quickly too.
Usual caveat as working-when-last-powered-up :)
3x LA100-CA with keyboards
VRT19 with video cable, last powered up in Dec 2014
VR319 mono VXT monitor
VR261 mono workstation monitor
VXT1200
VXT1000
Alpha 3000-400, maybe 2 if I can find the 2nd one.
Cheers,
?
Adrian/Witchy
Binary Dinosaurs - Celebrating Computing History from 1972 onwards
w: binarydinosaurs.co.uk <http://binarydinosaurs.co.uk/> t: @binarydinosaurs
f: facebook.com/binarydinosaurs
At some point I read an article or a transcript of an interview with an
Intel employee (or former employee) who had been involved with the design
of the 8085, describing how he had specified additional instructions over
those of the 8080, and they had been implemented in the silicon, but then
the decision was made to not document any of the new instructions other
than RIM and SIM.
I no longer recall which Intel employee that was, and can't find the
article or interview. Does anyone else remember that, and perhaps have a
copy?
Eric
> From: Terry Stewart
> http://www.classic-computers.org.nz/blog/2018-02-05-USB-in-MS-DOS-and-Win98…
> Hopefully the article will be useful to others who might want to do
> this.
Hi, can I appeal to you (and everyone else who writes up these kinds of
notes) to put this stuff on the Computer History wiki?
When things like this get placed in the CCTalk archives (for which there is
no search system other than Google), or on people's personal sites (ditto) -
and I have in the past BTDT for both of these, myself - it's probably going
to be hard to find them amidst all the other dross that a Google search
typically produces, a couple of years down the road.
With the CHWiki, we stand a chance of filtering out the useful information
and making available, and _organizing_ all this stuff so that it's possible
to find relevant information when it's needed...
And no, I don't have time to upload all this stuff myself - I have too much
other stuff I'm trying to work on! :-)
So, please - let's get organized!
Noel
What sites still exist that have VMS software? I know the about the OpenVMS Freeware CD?s from HP VMS Engineering.
http://h41379.www4.hpe.com/openvms/freeware/collections.html
As an example, I?ve found part of the old DECwindows archive, but it looks like that site is basically gone.
Zane
Helloooooooooooooo cctalkers.
We've been planning this for almost a year and now it is time for the
inaugural Vintage Computer Festival Pacific Northwest, this weekend
(10am-5pm both days) at Living Computers: Museum+Labs in Seattle.
There will be all the usual goodness that you expect from a Vintage
Computer Federation event: computer museum tours, incredible exhibits,
amazing venue, interesting presentations, consignment booth, food, tours
of the nearby Connections Museum, and you can pick up a snazzy VCFed
mousepad or coffee mug. :)
If you live within a day's drive then you owe it to yourself to check
out this show! All the details are at www.vcfed.org and don't forget to
use #vcfpnw in social media posts.
And of course, if you see me there then please come say hello. I love
meeting Internet people in person.
Special thanks to our supporters: LC:ML, Hackaday, ACM, and the IEEE
History Center.
-Evan
________________________________
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Vintage Computer Federation
a 501(c)3 educational non-profit
evan at vcfed.org
(646) 546-9999
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Anybody notice this eBay auction? https://cgi.ebay.com/itm/222816138475
I'd guess it was part of a packaged AMD development system, maybe
somebody recalls some specifics...? Or maybe that it was something else?
Google is returning a lot about Age-related Macular Degeneration, and
other misses where they helpfully turn "AMD" into "and" ...
Thanks,
--S.
From: Curious Marc <curiousmarc3 at gmail.com>
>
> On Windows 7, using regedit, set
> ?HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa\LMCompatibilityLevel? to ?1?
> You might need to create the new entry under \lsa as a REG_DWORD, set to 1
>
As your friendly neighbourhood infosec type, please be aware that this
setting opens a rather nasty set of possible security issues. Fine on
your lab network, but you probably don't want a machine configured
like that on a possibly hostile network.
KJ
So, I picked up (and I did just carry it into the house, and now I hurt) a
Microvax II from another list member yesterday. Cosmetically it's a
disaster (BA123 has a cracked top panel, broken wheels, missing front door,
missing right-rear panel) but internally it appears to be complete; board
wise we have:
M7606 - CPU
M7608 - 4MB ram
M9047 - grant continuity
M7504 - DEQNA ethernet
M3104 - DHV11 8-port serial
M7555 - RQDX3 disk controller
M7546 - TX50 controller
... it's got a TK50 and hard drive (no idea of capacity).
Operational status is a complete unknown, and I have absolutely zero
knowledge about these systems - so my question at this stage is what
background reading I need to be doing in terms of pre-powerup* checks,
actually hooking a console, if there's a suggested minimal config I can use
to diag the CPU, and then (assuming it gets to that point) how to actually
use the thing (I'm assuming it was running VMS rather than Ultrix, but I
don't know for sure). I'm wondering there aren't any handy tutorials out
there, alongside whatever DEC docs are recommended.
* e.g. for most machines I'd be thinking in terms of pulling all
boards/drives, hooking up a dummy load to whatever PSU rails required it,
and then at least running the PSU up in isolation first, but I don't know
to what extent this machine requires some logic in place for the PSU to
even run.
cheers
Jules
As the title suggests, I'm looking for a copy of the EBBS][ software for a
friend who used to run an Apple based BBS many moons ago and is looking
out for a bit of nostalgia. So far he's been unable to locate the disks
the system used to be on (he suspects damaged in a storage space flood in
the late 90s) and my google fu is weak.
Would anyone be able to help us out here?
Replies should probably be kept off-list.
My thanks to all;
- JP
Hello guys.
I am a passionate collector of old computerhardware (PDP8?s) and terminals from the very early 70ies.
It has always been my aim to be able toconnect a modem or an acoustic coupler directly to one of my ASCII terminals,dial a number and be connected?with Google!
Something like Google-interface but convertedto match ASCII terminals (only text, very simple graphics).
I am aware that all searches that returnpicture sand graphics will not be displayed. But at least search-page should bein plain text, and many websites may as well. Wikipedia would be great?
Does anybody know if there exists such anaccess-number where this conversion is already made, or is there a small deviceon the market that allows on one side connect to a dial-up modem and on theother side to the terminal and doing the ASCII conversion stand-alone?
?It would be really cool to be able todemonstrate to folks that these terminals can actually look up pages on Googleand (with limitations) also access some pages.
Something similar has actually been done in an artisticway a few years ago under: http://www.masswerk.at/googleBBS/orhttp://www.masswerk.at/google60/
But I need the real thing working where I canconnect my terminals to??
Any help is appreciated
Is anyone able to get email from this list via either CLASSICCMP or
RackSpace? When I first changed over to using the healyzh at avanthar.com
address, I was able to receive email from the list for a short time.
I've even tried to subscribe with a gmail account, and no luck. My
aracnet address is no longer reliable, and will not willingly be
renewed.
Zane
On 5 February 2018 at 20:06, Chuck Guzis via cctalk
<cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
> I have a similar gripe with barrel connectors,
> which don't seem to enforce any standard at all regarding polarity or AC
> vs. DC.
.. which led me to accidentally power a USB hub with 12V instead of 5V
- the power supplies looked the same, had the same plug, and I
couldn't read the tiny writing on the warts. That blew the nicest
notebook PC I've ever found - I bought it in Japan at a special price,
the normal price is out of my league.
Since then I have bought a Dymo and, armed with a magnifying glass,
went through all the chargers and warts I own and labelled them. Which
I should have done *before* the accident of course. But what if there
was some kind of standard for barrel connectors instead.. sigh.
Hey everyone, thanks for always serving as a great sounding board and
source of advice!
I have an issue with a PDP8E which has an issue with the power supply.?
The -15V, 15V, and 5V are good, and my Bus Loads board is good, but for
some reason the power supply is bringing down the 3.75V signal from the
bus loads to 0V (this is the DC VOLTS OK grey wire from the power supply).
I'm having troubles finding the schematics of the PDP8e power supply,
also any suggestions on what could be pulling the 3.75V to 0V (tested
multiple Omnibus backplanes, and bus load boards, so I'm fairly certain
it's the PSU).
All help is MUCH appreciated, thanks!
> Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2018 12:55:41 -0500
> From: Douglas Taylor <dj.taylor4 at comcast.net>
> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic Posts" <cctech at classiccmp.org>
> Subject: VMS 8.4 Alpha Hobbyist disk images
> Message-ID: <92b4de6a-b537-4bfb-a1fd-1ebe8133f11a at comcast.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>
> I'm getting an Alphaserver 1000a and wanted to install VMS 8.4 -
> hobbyist license from CD.
>
> So, I went to the folder on my PC where I have the 8.4 hobbyist
> distribution.? There are 3 ISO files; ALPHA084, ALPHA084LP1 and
> ALPHA084LP2.
>
> I thought I would burn these to CD and up and away.? However, Windows 7
> balks and says, 'The selected disc image file isn't valid'.
>
> Is it Windows 7 or is there something I'm missing?? Is the CD on the
> Alphaserver 2048 byte block size or 512?
>
> Doug
They _are_ 'ISO' images but in a format which Windows 7 or whatever burning
program you're using doesn't understand.
I used Nero (or Daemon I think) to write CDs for my VAX but there will be
plenty of other programs equally suitable.
You don't need to do anything special, just treat them as an ISO image and
let the burning software get on with it.
Once written, Windows won't be able to read them so don't panic. If the
burning software includes verification then it (not Windows) will be able to
read them back OK.
(I'm using VMS v7.3 but I'm sure this is no different).
Generally AFAIK the CD readers on Vaxes (Vaxen - ugh!!) and Alphas will
deliver 512 byte blocks but this isn't relevant for the image itself.
Bob
Hi,
I am working on several projects requiring 2708 and 2716 EPROMs, and
am finding some of my chips will not erase, and some will not take
a program. I've also learned more in the past week than I wanted
to know about repairing Data-I/O 29a/b programmers.
I vaguely remember in the 1990s baking such EPROMs in the oven, but
I do not remember temperature or time. I was surprised that Google
didn't turn up anything useful with this info.
I'm sure someone here will have some notes on EPROM baking.
Mark
--
Mark G. Thomas (Mark at Misty.com), KC3DRE
I'm getting an Alphaserver 1000a and wanted to install VMS 8.4 -
hobbyist license from CD.
So, I went to the folder on my PC where I have the 8.4 hobbyist
distribution.? There are 3 ISO files; ALPHA084, ALPHA084LP1 and ALPHA084LP2.
I thought I would burn these to CD and up and away.? However, Windows 7
balks and says, 'The selected disc image file isn't valid'.
Is it Windows 7 or is there something I'm missing?? Is the CD on the
Alphaserver 2048 byte block size or 512?
Doug
On 6 February 2018 at 06:09, Zane Healy via cctalk
> And obviously I meant to ask, is anyone able to get email from this list via
> either gmail or an email account hosted by RackSpace?
I've always used gmail with the list. There used to be a problem with
automatic de-subscription due to 'excessive bounces', that problem
went away after the list was modified to not show 'From' addresses
directly. Since then the gmail/list combination has worked perfectly.
I've got two RL02 units. One is a parts unit and has an access plate for
the door solenoid. I can open it. The other has no access plate nor is
there a cutout for one. How do I open this cover with the power off? This
is a newer unit as it has head lock screws on the bottom of the drive.
The second question has to do with rack mounting. I want to mount this in
a H960 cabinet but will obviously need to slide it out to replace packs.
All the unit has is a thin rail on both sides that is riveted to the unit.
It looks like chassis slides were there originally. Does anyone have
either the DEC part # for the slides or a contemporary part # for one that
will work?
Thanks,
Marc
The alphaserver 1000a I have has a storageworks array.
The disk carriers are green in color, I see storageworks disks for sale
on ebay that are blue.? What is the difference? Are they interchangeable?
Is it possible (or even wise) to open one of the green carriers and
change the disk out?
Doug
Just put a working one together from parts from two different auctions and
I'd like to find the rest of the documentation.
H-19s are pretty common, H-29s not so much so. Haven't been able to find the
docs on line anywhere.
On Sun, 4 Feb 2018, Pete Lancashire via cctalk wrote:
> One of the Suns is a Sun1 pre-production
Perhaps a pre-production Sparc? I had a long personal relationship with
a Sun-1 and nothing there looks remotely like a Sun-1.
--
Richard Loken VE6BSV : "...underneath those tuques we wear,
Athabasca, Alberta Canada : our heads are naked!"
** rlloken at telus.net ** : - Arthur Black
On Sun, 4 Feb 2018, Douglas Taylor via cctech wrote:
> The alphaserver 1000a I have has a storageworks array.
>
> The disk carriers are green in color, I see storageworks disks for sale on
> ebay that are blue.? What is the difference? Are they interchangeable?
>
> Is it possible (or even wise) to open one of the green carriers and change
> the disk out?
Yes, the disks are interchangeable. I have used blue disks in a green shelf
and green disks in a blue shelf. The modules come apart fairly easily and
you can replace the drives or remove drives and use them as ordinary SCSI
drives elsewhere - I have done that too.
DEC and Compaq also sold DLTs in a StorageWorks module those can also be
taken apart and the drive replaced but they are harder to get apart and
you must pay attention if you hope to get it reassembled properly.
>
> Doug
>
>
--
Richard Loken VE6BSV : "...underneath those tuques we wear,
Athabasca, Alberta Canada : our heads are naked!"
** rlloken at telus.net ** : - Arthur Black
According to the document referenced below the MicroVAX Diagnostic
Monitor, Version 5.0, Release 139 was available a CD-ROM media, where
QZ-K32AA-H8 was the order number of the CD-ROM media kit.
So the question is, does anyone happen to have a copy of that MDM
CD-ROM? Or any versions of MDM on CD-ROM?
MicroVAX Diagnostic Monitor Release Notes
Order Number: AA-PK29E-TE
These release notes describe restrictions, undocumented features, and
other essential information about the MicroVAX Diagnostic Monitor (MDM)
Version 5.0, Release 139. These release notes supersede all other MDM
documentation.
http://manx-docs.org/collections/mds-199909/cd1/vax/pk29ete.pdf
I have a few tubes of ST-branded M27C256B UV-erasable EPROM chips. All of
these fail to program starting at 0x200 until 0x27F. At 0x200, 0x00 is
written, then until 0x27F, the bytes are 0xFF. What would cause this?
Can it be fixed by an extra-long time in the eraser? Should I just break
out the hammer?
At least I know the programmer is capable of programming a TI-branded
27c256 and 29c256 flash chips. Might there be a bug in the programming
software?
FWIW, I'm using a Minipro TL855. Linux software is available at Github:
https://github.com/vdudouyt/minipro
--
David Griffith
dave at 661.org
A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
HI Wayne,
I believe the KVA is increased because of the extra memory card. I have a
5100 with 0.4 and another with 0.336. The 0.4 has an extra memory card and
is BASIC and APL as opposed to just BASIC.
The printed 5100 badging on the front is not consistent but sometimes if it
doesn't have it printed on the front, it's on a silver metallic emblem
embedded in the top cover. If the 5100 badging is printed on the front, it
may or may not have the silver metallic badge on the top cover. I have a
top emblem model and a top emblem-less model yet both have the 5100 badging
printed on the front. If you look at other photos on the net, you will see
others with no front printed badging. This particular one had no front
badging but has the emblem in the top cover and I think this is normal.
I'm not sure which one is earlier/later but I would imagine that is why
there is a difference.
I can't explain the 5110/5100 difference on the bottom.
Hope this helps.
On Sat, Feb 3, 2018 at 6:15 PM, Wayne Smith via cctalk <
cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
> Has anyone noted this listing of what the seller is calling an "IBM
> 5100" on Ebay?
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-5100-B1-Basic-Language-16k-Memory-Powers-
> on-monitor-works-but-no-text/112776476816
>
> While it is listed as a 5100, it lacks the 5100 badging on the front
> center panel (to the right of the power switch). In addition, the
> indicia on the bottom
> (https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/9VYAAOSwaC9aapB-/s-l1600.jpg)
> indicates both models 5100 and 5110, and the KVA is listed at 0.4
> whereas 5100s are 0.336. Compare the typical indicia on the bottom:
> https://tinyurl.com/ybmvms7u.
>
> The serial number is in the 5100 format of 10-1XXXX, but this unit has
> the highest serial number I have seen on a 5100 (10-15687).
>
>
> I am guessing that this is some sort of transitional version or
> perhaps a 5110 "prototype".
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> -W
>
>
>
Has anyone noted this listing of what the seller is calling an "IBM
5100" on Ebay?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-5100-B1-Basic-Language-16k-Memory-Powers-
on-monitor-works-but-no-text/112776476816
While it is listed as a 5100, it lacks the 5100 badging on the front
center panel (to the right of the power switch). In addition, the
indicia on the bottom
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/9VYAAOSwaC9aapB-/s-l1600.jpg)
indicates both models 5100 and 5110, and the KVA is listed at 0.4
whereas 5100s are 0.336. Compare the typical indicia on the bottom:
https://tinyurl.com/ybmvms7u.
The serial number is in the 5100 format of 10-1XXXX, but this unit has
the highest serial number I have seen on a 5100 (10-15687).
I am guessing that this is some sort of transitional version or
perhaps a 5110 "prototype".
Any thoughts?
-W
I finally got a system running again and hooked up my first
AK6DN RX02 Emulator.? Worked, up to a point.? I can boot
>from it and read and write to it.? However, every once once
and a while after doing a bunch of accesses the Green LED
stays on and the system freezes.? Sometimes I can get back
out of it with Control-C but sometimes it is locked? up so tight
I have to reboot to get out of it.
Anybody else see this behavior?
bill
I need to read a couple of Signetics 82S215 bipolar PROMs with my old Data
IO 29B / Unipak 2B. But it needs a 351B-068 adapter.
Does anyone has information regarding this adapter?
I did find an old post in DATA_IO_EPROM at groups.io mailinglist that a man
named Alfred Marin had boards. I even found his email but it bounced.
Any other pointers in this subject?
/Mattis
> From: Lars Brinkhoff
> notes on his progress are here:
> https://github.com/PDP-10/its/issues/284
Ah, that sounds pretty good. The ability to re-create source, given the FASL,
will really help.
> In 1982 MIT licensed Macsyma to Symbolics, but also made it available
> to the US Department of Energy.
I wasn't involved with this, but my recollection from dribs and drabs I
overheard was that DoE got a copy because they'd been the funding agency for
a lot of the work - i.e. MIT didn't just give a copy to DoE, it was a
requirement.
Noel
On 2/1/2018 1:00 PM, Adrian Stoness wrote:> ibm had 8in floppy drives in
their black from the times of white?
This was dressed to go with the AS/400 line. Mine is dated 1994.
- David
> From: Lars Brinkhoff
> Right, we haven't found sources for everything in Macsyma.
Ow. How much, very roughly, is missing (if you happen to know) - 5%, 50%?
> I'd say we're lucky to have it running at all
Good point!
Noel
I started accessing BBSs back in the early 70s with a 300 baud modem.
>From there it went to 1200; 2400; 9600; 28.8K and 56Kilobaud. All on
dialup! Now at 5 Mbits/sec. here in Ontario. An American friend has
250Mb/s download. Yikes! The classic computer era taught us patience
didn?t it? BTW, one had to have a private phone line not a party line
for a modem to work. Making our hobby more expensive!
On the business-side of computing: Xerox sold 50.1% of its business to
Fujifilm, Japan. Xerox Parc was a seminal institution in early classic
computing era: Mouse and graphics input for instance.
Happy computing!
Murray :)
Sorry for undiggind this subject so many years later, but have you found a
solution to your problem? I am facing exactly the same issue, and i have
tried all possible windows X server options without success. The only
possibility I am working with is with a Mac OS X server, which reports a
5-bit visual.
Hi Guys,
I am new to the group, so let me know if this post is inappropriate.
I have a SuperTerm Maintenance Manual that I am about to put in the bin.
I am prepared to scan it if any one is interested, I could not find it on bitsavers.org, but I guess there may be one in the backlog?
The SuperTerm was manufactured by Intertec Data Systems c. 1978, it was a 180 CPS dot matrix printer (RS232), quite often used as a console printer in place of a LA36, Intertec also did a speed up board for the LA36 (I may have details on that when I get through clearing out my loft), to make it a 150 CPS printer, although it was prone to carriage slams initially, same was true of the SuperTerm for a while, which also resulted in the carriage driver transistors burning out. The company I worked for produced a separate driver board to get around the problem, typical patch at the time.
Regards Mike Norris
This document seems to imply that the Super Foonly and the Foonly F1
were separate machines. When I've seen them discussed, they always
seemed to be uses synonymously.
http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/pdp10/KC10_Jupiter/memos/foonly_19840410.p…
SUPERFOONLY DESIGNED 1968-71
10,000 TTL IC'S
3 MIPS
F1 (1978)
5,000 ECL IC'S
3.5 MIPS
Also, except for the CCRMA F4 at Computer History Museum, does anyone
know about any Foonly machine having been preserved?
Does anyone have an AIM16 hardware unit made by Connecticut microComputer
company, from the late 70's? I am working through their cassette software,
a box I got years ago from their internal programming department with
versions and variations of same programs.
Bill
> From: Phil Budne
> FWIW, Found these bits
> ...
> Those bits and others can be found
Excellent archaeology! With these, and the ITS sources (for which we have both
the -10 and -11 sides), the register definitions in the early PDP-10 CPU
manual, and the prints, it should be possible to write a programming manual
for the DL10, to replace the one that's now lost. (If it ever existed - does
anyone know?)
Any chance I could convince you to enter all this stuff on the CHWiki DL10
article:
http://gunkies.org/wiki/DL10
Lars (mostly) and I have added a little bit, but there's still a long way to
go!
Noel