- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by tony.nicholson＠computer.org

[Please excuse the lack of threading - I read cctalk in digest form.] On Wed, 3 Feb 2016, Jim Simpson wrote: > Is there a utility that will read .IMD diskette archive files and recover > the data? I've found a wealth of BigBoard & BigBoard II data (and lots of > other stuff too) on many different sites, all saved in .IMD format. Is it > possible to read these files and recover the data instead of writing a > floppy disk with DiskImage? Jim (and other cctalkers), Grab a copy of the SIMH Altairz80 simulator from http://schorn.ch/altair.html and the zip file of my cpmplus for the CompuPro Disk1 controller from the Other Operating systems link at http://schorn.ch/altair_5.php This supports IMD disks in BB II 1.4Mb (1024byte x 9 sector) format. You can attach the IMD file and use the "W" command to extract files to the host operating system - mini:cpmplus tony$ altairz80 cpm3bk Altair 8800 (Z80) simulator V4.0-0 Beta git commit id: 4ff1e317 LDRBIOS for SIMH System - V3.2-Y2K 01-AUG-2008 DISK1 8" boot floppy CPMLDR3 - CP/M V3.0 Loader Copyright (C) 1982, Digital Research BNKBIOS3 SPR FA00 0600 BNKBIOS3 SPR C600 1A00 RESBDOS3 SPR F400 0600 BNKBDOS3 SPR 9800 2E00 61K TPA CP/M Plus for SIMH System - V3.2-Y2K 06-AUG-2008 Banked memory CCP loads from A: and reloads from bank 0 DISK2 dual 20Mb M20 winchesters (A-F) DISK1 8" (I-L) [BB-II] floppies A>SETDEF * A: [ORDER=(COM,SUB) DISPLAY UK] Drive Search Path: 1st Drive - Default 2nd Drive - A: Search Order - COM, SUB Program Name Display - On Date format used - UK A> <CTRL-E> Simulation stopped, PC: 0FE8F (AND 02h) sim> att disk1a3 ../s100/BB2-011.IMD sim> go A>l: %FDDISK1 unit 3 is type BigBoard-II 1024x9 Read-Only L>dir L: BULLETIN : BYE COM : CALL-JAN PQN : COMMANDS HLP : DIR COM L: ELAPSED COM : HELP COM : HELP HLP : INFO : MAGAZINE HLP L: MBOOT ASM : NEWS : PAMSFEB1 0Q6 : PASSWORD COM : RBBS COM L: TYPE COM : USERDISK CQT : WHATSNEW HLP : XYAM COM : XYAMHELP T SYSTEM FILE(S) EXIST L>w A:W COM WRITE V-1.17 (01-Mar-08) SIMH Interface V004 Usage: WRITE <file name> [B|T] Copy <file name> to host environment. Default is text, B for binary, T for Text Examples WRITE BDOS.MAC copy BDOS.MAC as text file WRITE PIP.COM B copy PIP.COM as binary file WRITE PIP.COM copy PIP.COM as binary file [.COM .REL .DAT imply B] WRITE TEST.DAT T copy TEST.DAT as text file WRITE *.COM copy all files matching *.COM as binary files WRITE SRC/BDOS.MAC copy BDOS.MAC to directory SRC as a text file WRITE COM/*.COM B copy *.COM to directory COM as binary files L>w type.com b A:W COM WRITE V-1.17 (01-Mar-08) SIMH Interface V004 Write "TYPE.COM" to "TYPE.COM". 3.5kB written (Binary). If you need to support other CP/M disk formats, the BIOS source files and submit files to put them together are in the A1: directory on the hard disk image. There's also CP/M program to make IMD disk images natively under CP/M-Plus in A3: (it will span the IMD file across multiple floppies if the image file is too large). I used this to copy all my 8" floppies (including BB II ones) to IMD images. Tony -- Tony Nicholson <tony.nicholson at computer.org>

10 years, 4 months

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Can Windows 98SE run on an Intel I7 with SATA hard drives?

by COURYHOUSE＠aol.com

just for grins I took on of the SMECC e-machines out of back room and fired it up... yea Win 98 SE running just great! last time I used this particular old office system was '07! heh it has a 4 gig hardrive Ed# _www.smecc.org_ (http://www.smecc.org) In a message dated 2/4/2016 11:53:40 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, radiotest at juno.com writes: At 11:08 AM 2/4/2016, Ethan O'Toole wrote: >If you're trying to bitbang the RS232 port to decode POCSAG or something perhaps. Not quite - this is not an asynchronous protocol, this is single-purpose software written decades ago to communicate with highly specialized hardware that is still in use. >If you're trying to use old Windows software in more modern versions of Windows ... Nope, these are MS-DOS apps that require access to the UART registers. Anyone who thinks that MS-DOS is dead and buried doesn't have to work with some of the vintage (but still in use) technology that I sometimes deal with at work. I am certain that there are many on this list whose vocations involve decades-old hardware that is still in use. Dale H. Cook, Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA Osborne 1 / Kaypro 4-84 / Kaypro 1 / Amstrad PPC-640 http://plymouthcolony.net/starcity/radios/index.html

10 years, 4 months

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Mentec manuals

by Paul_Koning＠Dell.com

I was looking back at the discussion on what Mentec actually owned, back when it existed. The discussion on the list suggested that Mentec had a license but did not actually own the IP. It seems an odd arrangement that doesn't say much for the business skills of those making it, but I suppose it's posssible. I found that there are some RSTS manuals at www.computinghistory.co.uk with Mentec cover pages. Among other things, a free for the download RSTS 10.1 internals manual, over 600 pages of good stuff. The cover has a Mentec logo but no other ownership clues. I was hoping to see the copyright page to find out whose name appears there. Unfortunately, the scan omits the copyright page. Does anyone have any manuals from Mentec? If yes, does it say "Copyright ... Mentec"? Or "Copyright ... someone else"? paul

10 years, 4 months

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Can Windows 98SE run on an Intel I7 with SATA hard drives?

by radiotest＠juno.com

At 08:08 AM 2/4/2016, Liam Proven wrote: >But NT is a better OS in every important or material way. It is unusable in one important way. This thread began as a discussion of running serial port terminal emulators on a PC. At work I still use some MS-DOS programs (admittedly not terminal emulators) over serial ports. For my purposes (setting up a variety of vintage specialized hardware over RS-232) NT-based operating systems are sometimes unusable because they present the application program with a virtual serial port, and MS-DOS programs running under those operating systems cannot read from or write to the UART registers. Some of the setup programs for that vintage hardware were written before the mid-1990s and access the UART registers, so I have to run those under Win98 or earlier. I have a portable MS-DOS 3.3 machine that I use to set up that vintage hardware. Dale H. Cook, Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA Osborne 1 / Kaypro 4-84 / Kaypro 1 / Amstrad PPC-640 http://plymouthcolony.net/starcity/radios/index.html

10 years, 4 months

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Can Windows 98SE run on an Intel I7 with SATA hard drives?

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: CuriousMarc > Needless to say, you'd only boot to this Windows 98 for retro-computing > purposes. BTW, are you indicating that Win 98SE _in general_ should only be used for retro-computing, or only Win 98SE _in the particular configration you described_ should only be used that way? Because, if the latter, I happily use Win 98SE on most of my machines, for the vast majority of my work! Of course, I don't need to run the latest and greatest uSloth bloatware^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H applications, so they fact that they probably won't run on the older Windows (What a shock! You don't think they would by any chance want to encourage people to pay them a large pile of dineros for the latest and 'greatest' version of their OS, do you?) is not a problem for me. The biggest issue, actually, for me, is that the latest Adobe Reader which will run under Win 98SE is 6.0, and that doesn't support some of the latest PDF's (in particular, encrypted ones). Noel

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BC11A Cable ends

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: Guy Sotomayor > When I have some time .. I'll fire up my 11/40 .. and then re-cable it > using cables with a pair of BC11A-T ends and some ribbon cable. I'll > run memory diagnostics on it for a while (I have 128KW of memory on it > split between two racks, so this should be a good test) and see how it > does Might be interesting to throw a 'scope on a line on each end of the cable, and see how things look after making it through the cable. Noel

10 years, 4 months

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ISO: VAX-11/750

by derschjo＠gmail.com

So, I figure it's unlikely, but I've been jonesing for a "larger" VAX and I'd like to track down an 11/750 (or an 11/730). If anyone out there has one for sale trade (in any condition apart from "pile of slag"), let me know. I have DEC and various other gear for trade. Thanks as always! - Josh

10 years, 4 months

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ISO: VAX-11/750

by jim＠deitygraveyard.com

On Feb 4, 2016 01:30, "Mark J. Blair" <nf6x at nf6x.net> wrote: > > > > On Feb 3, 2016, at 20:37, Lee Courtney <leec2124 at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Date on the 730 notice is Aug 2009 - I suspect it is long gone by now. :-( > > Where do you see that? The listing states: > > "Status: Open 2/1/16 - 02/07/16 23:59:00" > Lee must have quickly glanced at the message and seen the join date of the author and thought it was the date of the message. I've done that a few times on vintage-computer.com. Jim

10 years, 4 months

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BC11A Cable ends

by ggs＠shiresoft.com

I just received the BC11A-T variant boards (the ribbon cables come out the ?top??yea not imaginative naming) this afternoon. I inserted a couple of the ribbon cable connectors on the board and everything looks great! When I have some time (probably in a couple of weeks) I?ll fire up my 11/40 (to make sure it?s still working after all of this time) and then re-cable it using cables with a pair of BC11A-T ends and some ribbon cable. I?ll run memory diagnostics on it for a while (I have 128KW of memory on it split between two racks, so this should be a good test) and see how it does vs with the ?standard? BC11A cables. TTFN - Guy

10 years, 4 months

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AIX for IBM system 370

by lyokoboy0＠gmail.com

I have been messing with the Hercules emulator, and have really been wanting to take a look at ibm AIX, and get a working install on an emulated system 370. I have found no mention of install media or disk images of a working system for download online. Is there a good place to get the install media?

10 years, 4 months

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Tymnet Node processor

by COURYHOUSE＠aol.com

McDonnell Douglas dec 10 SPACELAB list? In a message dated 2/2/2016 10:47:44 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, jws at jwsss.com writes: I was talking to a former co-worker who worked for McDonnell Douglas Network Systems Company who owned Tymshare at one point, and he had a picture of a 1mb memory from one of the nodes. He passed along this link to the manual for the node processor. http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/tymshare/tymnet/NPD-604_Engine_Family _Maintainence_Print_Manual_Apr85.pdf Wondering if any survive and are working. It was a 64 bit microword, 32 bit data path TTL logic type machine, similar to one of the ones I worked on pre-bitslice days. Also wonder if the microcode survived. Date on the drawings was 1978 though this manual set is coded as April 1985. thanks Jim

10 years, 4 months

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Tymnet Node processor

by jws＠jwsss.com

I was talking to a former co-worker who worked for McDonnell Douglas Network Systems Company who owned Tymshare at one point, and he had a picture of a 1mb memory from one of the nodes. He passed along this link to the manual for the node processor. http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/tymshare/tymnet/NPD-604_Engine_Famil… Wondering if any survive and are working. It was a 64 bit microword, 32 bit data path TTL logic type machine, similar to one of the ones I worked on pre-bitslice days. Also wonder if the microcode survived. Date on the drawings was 1978 though this manual set is coded as April 1985. thanks Jim

10 years, 4 months

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PDP-8 chase the lights

by cctalk＠snarc.net

Our group here in NJ + surroundings now has monthly-ish repair workshops (vs. a few times per year before). At the workshop this past weekend, David Gesswein continued restoring our PDP-8. David summarized: "I fixed the known fault of accumulator bit going to zero when it was rotated left. This was a bad diode on one of the accumulator boards. I also replaced two bad bulbs and a third that died during the repair. Since one that died was one I previously replaced I'm going to use the not quite matching bulbs with heavier wires for future repairs. The wires are just too thinn on the 1762 bulbs and now that they have aged they break too easy. I then found that the teletype interface wasn't working and replaced a diode on a R220 to fix output. Input is not working properly. I have traced it to a particular flip flop on a R220 where when the data changes it feeds through to the output without the clock active. I ran out of time to identify the component that needs replacing." Here's a little video of the computer chasing its lights. :) http://www.vcfed.org/evan/pdp8lights.mp4

10 years, 4 months

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Lot of 34 Transputers sold on ebay

by toby＠telegraphics.com.au

http://www.ebay.com/itm/151966095000 Did anyone we know buy them? Would be good to know they went to a good home. --Toby

10 years, 4 months

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PDP-11/84 (KDJ11-B) and Error 61

by jhfinedp3k＠compsys.to

>Ulrich Tagge wrote:Hi Glen, > [Snip] > > List/change parameters in the Setup table > > A - ANSI Video terminal (1) 0=No, 1=Yes = 1 > B - Power up 0=Dialog, (1)=Automatic, 2=ODT, 3=24 = 1 > C - Restart 0=Dialog, (1)=Automatic, 2=ODT, 3=24 = 1 > D - Ignore battery 0=No, 1=Yes = 0 > E - PMG 0-(7) 1=.4us, 2=.8, 3=1.6, 4=3.2,...7=25.6 = 7 > F - Disable clock CSR 0=No, 1=Yes = 0 > G - Force clock interrupts 0=No, 1=Yes = 0 > H - Clock 0=Power supply, 1=50Hz, 2=60Hz, 3=800Hz = 1 Does anyone have an idea as to how the choice of the 800Hz option was made? I could understand 1000Hz or perhaps 1200Hz which allows division by both 50 and 60. But 800Hz seems like such an unlikely value. On the other hand, on the PRO350, the clock rate was 64Hz and every 16 ticks, I assume that one tick was discarded so as to support the appearance of a 60 Hz clock. Jerome Fine

10 years, 4 months

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Pascal Microengine software images

by aek＠bitsavers.org

I successfully imaged OS revs E0, F0, F1, G0 and H0 of the Pascal Microengine from the original distribution media this morning with the application of cyclomethicone as Chuck suggested. I was worried since they were 79'ish vintage BASF media, but the lubrication did the trick and they read without errors. http://bitsavers.org/bits/WesternDigital/microengine_distributions_E0-H0.zip

10 years, 4 months

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PDP-8 chase the lights

by COURYHOUSE＠aol.com

THAT IS WHAT WE USED TO CALL THE CYLON EYE PROGRAM! eD# _WWW.SMECC.ORG_ (http://www.SMECC.ORG) In a message dated 2/2/2016 1:27:02 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk at snarc.net writes: Our group here in NJ + surroundings now has monthly-ish repair workshops (vs. a few times per year before). At the workshop this past weekend, David Gesswein continued restoring our PDP-8. David summarized: "I fixed the known fault of accumulator bit going to zero when it was rotated left. This was a bad diode on one of the accumulator boards. I also replaced two bad bulbs and a third that died during the repair. Since one that died was one I previously replaced I'm going to use the not quite matching bulbs with heavier wires for future repairs. The wires are just too thinn on the 1762 bulbs and now that they have aged they break too easy. I then found that the teletype interface wasn't working and replaced a diode on a R220 to fix output. Input is not working properly. I have traced it to a particular flip flop on a R220 where when the data changes it feeds through to the output without the clock active. I ran out of time to identify the component that needs replacing." Here's a little video of the computer chasing its lights. :) http://www.vcfed.org/evan/pdp8lights.mp4

10 years, 4 months

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PDP-11/84 (KDJ11-B) and Error 61

by u.tagge＠gmx.de

Hi List, I have a working 11/84, and I have decidec, to test some of my spare cards, starting with: KDJ11-B. I see the following error, when powering up the system, which points me to the Clock. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Error 61 M8190 clock Error See troubleshooting documentation Command Description 1 Rerun test 2 Loop on test Type a command then press the RETURN key: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any hints, what the problem could be? Is the clock in this new PDP's still generated out of the line frequency? Could it by, that the KDJ11-B is configured to a wrong HZ value? Many Greetings Ulrich

10 years, 4 months

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ISIS-II disks with PLM80 and ICE80 software.

by mattislind＠gmail.com

While browsing various 8 inch floppies I have found a couple of disks that seems to contain ISIS-II stuff. I discovered a document specifying the format of the disk and managed to extract the contents: Disk1: arbetsrumsdatorn:ISIS mattis_lind$ ls UNKN2 ATTRIB DSPERR ICE80.OV1 ISIS.LAB PLM80.OV0 PLMCOD.CSD COPY EDIT ICE80.OV2 ISIS.MAP PLM80.OV1 PLMNOC.CSD DELETE FORMAT ISIS.BIN ISIS.T0 PLM80.OV2 RENAME DIR ICE80 ISIS.CLI PLM80 PLM80.OV3 SUBMIT DSP ICE80.OV0 ISIS.DIR PLM80.LIB PLM80.OV4 SYSTEM.LIB Disk2: arbetsrumsdatorn:ISIS mattis_lind$ ls DISK2 ALIAS DEBUG EXEC LINK RELEAS TTY ALLOC DELETE FORMAT MDUP REMAP TXT ANALYZ DGEN FRAPP MEMDMP RENAME TXW ASM DIR HEXBIN MOVE RESCUE XREF ASSIGN DIRPAC INIT MYLOAD SEDIT ATTRIB DROP ISIS.DIR O SYS DCONVA DRSTC ISIS.ERR PAGE SYSTEM DCOPY EDIT ISIS.LAB PROM T2 DDUMC ETX ISIS.MAP RASM TPGEN If someone is interested in these I put them here: http://www.datormuseum.se/documentation-software/isis-ii-floppy-disks There were also a DSDD format on some disks which seemed a little bit different. The ISIS.DIR used 32 byte entries rather than 16 byte entries and the directory linkage block structure seemed to be different. I didn't spend any time other than recognize the difference. Is there any documentation that specify the various ISIS disk formats there is? /Mattis

10 years, 4 months

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Win98SE Update/Patches WAS: Can Windows 98SE run on an Intel I7 with SATA hard drives?

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: Dale H. Cook > I have spare IDE drives for my 98SE laptops. Might want to drag them out once a year and run them, to prevent anything sticking over time. (I should take my own advice, here.... :-) Noel

10 years, 4 months

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USPS: Re: PDP-11/03, LSI-11 KEV11-C CIS option

by seefriek＠gmail.com

On Sun, 31 Jan 2016, Pete Lancashire wrote: >> On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 1:24 AM, Henk Gooijen <henk.gooijen at hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> Spend the extra few dollars (or what your currency is) and pack it in a >> very strong box. I've actually had EPROMs show up cracked in half > >Seconded. The machines the USPS uses for automated sorting of mail are not >gentle on parcels. > I'd rather strongly suggest you not us the USPS period. In the last 6 months or so they've flat out lost 4 items either destined to or shipped by me, and one item apparently (according to the tracking web site) sat in a sorting facility in Utah for nearly a month before magically showing up. Glad it wasn't perishable. KJ

10 years, 4 months

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HP Manuals - where's your sense of humor?

by Martin.Hepperle＠MH-AeroTools.de

While I was reading through the HP 200/300 BASIC Manual I came across some interesting points I hadn't considered in the past. I thought HP manuals were dry and hard to read, but I was wrong. See for yourself... Installing, Using, and Maintaining the BASIC 5.0 System ============================================= Loading BASIC, page 1-16 ------------------------------- If You See Nothing on the Monitor Screen Here are some possible explanations: - The monitor's brightness is not turned all the way up. - The monitor is not plugged in. - The computer is not plugged in. - Your eyes are not pointed in the right direction, or are obscured by your eyelids. Other Maintenance Tasks, page 17-1 -------------------------------------------- The following list mentions some things users take for granted or tend to forget. ... - ... - ... - Rotate your tires and otherwise examine your system to see that it is performing nicely. Maybe the author had a good friend in final quality control of the manuals. Martin

10 years, 4 months

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Last call: free machines in Sweden

by pontus＠Update.UU.SE

Hi My employer is moving house and need to clear out some old stuff. We have ported to many, many Unix systems over the years and have kept some of the machines. Available is: 1x IBM RS/6000 big and beige 1x Bull DPX/2 1x Concurrent Computer Corporation in rack 1x Sperry unix machine 1x NCR (same as above, other label) Possibly 1 VAX 4000 and possibly one Alphaserver 2000. Pickup only. We will remove hard drives since they contain source code. In a few weeks, this will be gone. A few pictures here: http://www.update.uu.se/~pontus/slask/jobb_vind/ Items are in Uppsala, Sweden. /P

10 years, 4 months

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Still wanted: Symbolics Gear

by lists＠loomcom.com

Hi folks, This is as always a tremendous long shot, but I figured I would put it out there anyway. I am still eagerly looking for any and all Symbolics systems. I know very well how rare these things are, and how much money they are worth. If you have any systems you would be willing to let go of, let's talk. I'm happy to entertain trades if that's something you're interested in, but I'm also happy just to pay fair market prices. For reference, I am located near Seattle, WA. Best Wishes, -Seth P.S.: I also know how difficult they are to care for and keep running! I'm all too familiar with dying ESDI drives and bad power supplies.

10 years, 4 months

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OT: Come watch me install Linux on the IBM z890 Mainframe!

by connork＠connorsdomain.com

Come one come all! Its the day of reckoning. I finally have some storage on loan from a company called Funsoft! Hopefully by the end of the night I will have Linux installed and a portal to the internet to which people can connect and play on it! http://www.twitch.tv/conmega -Connor Krukosky

10 years, 4 months

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Equipment Available, DEC

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

Just received an email from someone who has a PDP-11/04 with "Floppy Disk" looking for a good home. The machine is located in Switzerland. Please email me off-list if interested. J

10 years, 4 months

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Circuit Design Aids / Unix Circuit Design System

by mark.kahrs＠gmail.com

In the original Unix BSTJ of 1978 Sandy Fraser described a system he called "Circuit Design Aids". Schematic capture was done on a 4014 and conversion went all the way to wire wrap. CDA was rehabbed and rewritten by many people over the years. It became known as the Unix Circuit Design System (UCDS) and it was available from Bell Labs under a separate license as I recall. UCDS was used to design many projects including the 5620, Belle and others. When Plan9 arrived, UCDS was converted to Plan9 (not too hard...) and renamed back to CDA. The code was released in the first Plan9 CDROM. So. It occurred to me that I could back port it to Linux. I did so with help from H. Trickey and the Plan9 compatibility library. I put all of this code on https://github.com/kahrs/cda. The interested and curious can find it there. I make no promises about full functionality, however, it is available for those who want to tinker.

10 years, 4 months

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BA23 fan noise

by Mark＠Misty.com

Hi, I've been messing around with my PDP11/83 and a Microvax, both in BA23 boxes here. These fans make too much noise for my home office area, and I cannot possibly need the original airflow. Even with the internal jumper set for 10V to power the 12V rated fan motor, these are still noisy. It's not even just the noise of the air moving, but largely a whine from the fan motors. One box is worse than the other with the wine. I've unplugged the front fan, since instead of spinning drives I have solid state CF cards and SCSI converters -- no heat in the front of the box at all. I have some 24V fans in my junk box that fit and make almost no sound at 12V, but at half voltage might not move enough air to keep the power supply, CPU, memory, SCSI, and ethernet boards happy. My guess is so long as there is some air movement over the boards, the biggest issue of concern is cooling the power supply. Does anyone have any suggestions for figuring out how much airflow I actually need, and achieving it with either stock fans at further reduced voltage, or some kind of replacements? I don't need an accurate solution, or something with complicated compensation for varying temperature, just something quieter, moving less air, but still enough air. Mark -- Mark G. Thomas (Mark at Misty.com), KC3DRE

10 years, 4 months

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Vintage Computer Collectors - TV Special Inquiry (fwd)

by sellam＠vintagetech.com

Does anyone want to have their children exploited for profit and entertainment? "I'm currently Producing a show for TLC that features children who have a passion for collecting. I was wondering if you know any kids who have a sizable collection of vintage computers? If you can think of anyone who would be interested in appearing on our show, I would greatly appreciate it if you could connect me with their parents to discuss the show further." If anyone is interested e-mail me privately and I'll give you all the contact details for this producer. -- Sellam Abraham VintageTech ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintagetech.com Whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. The truth is always simple. * * * NOTICE * * * Due to the insecure nature of the medium over which this message has been transmitted, no statement made in this writing may be considered reliable for any purpose either express or implied. The contents of this message are appropriate for entertainment and/or informational purposes only. The right of the people to be secure in their papers against unreasonable searches and seizures shall not be violated.

10 years, 4 months

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PDP-11/03, LSI-11 KEV11-C CIS option

by spacewar＠gmail.com

Does anyone have a PDP-11/03 or LSI-11 with the KEV11-C CIS (Commercial Instruction Set) option? It may have also been known as DIS (Dibol Instruction Set). It apparently consists of two microcode ROM chips (MICROMs), 23-004B5 and 23-005B5. Last month I posted here about building a circuit to dump the contents of MICROMs: https://www.flickr.com/photos/22368471 at N04/albums/72157662054690240 I've dumped the base LSI-11 instruction set chips and the EIS/FIS chip. I've partially disassembled the former: https://github.com/brouhaha/lsi11uc and verified that the latter matches the EIS/FIS microcode source code provided with the KUV11 writable control store support software. I'd like to dump the CIS microcode ROMs as well. The resulting dump would be usable by anyone with a KUV11. I'm contemplating developing a MICROM replacement board, which would be useful for those without a KUV11. I've made more progress with the WD9000 Pascal Microengine microcode than the LSI-11 microcode because someone provided a photomicrograph of the CP2161 control chip and I was able to dump the PLAs. I should be getting a photomicrograph of the CP1621 control chip of the LSI-11 soon, and will be able to do the same for it.

10 years, 4 months

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Looking for Solaris 8 patches

by nf6x＠nf6x.net

I'm looking for a bunch of OS patches necessary to get Firefox 2 running under Solaris 8 on my Sun Ultra 60. The patch mirror I used previously appears to have dumped the Sun patches in 2014, and the only up to date references I've seen to Sun patches now appear to be locked behind an Oracle cu$tomer $upport login. Perhaps Oracle bludgeoned any open mirrors to death with stacks of C&D letters? Are there any open mirrors of old Solaris patches lurking out there? Or maybe somebody has a private stash of patches? The ones I need are these ones (or later versions): 108434-17 108435-17 108652-79 108773-18 109704-03 111721-04 114542-01 I have older versions of all but the last one already, which I fetched a few years ago. But the older versions won't allow Firefox 2 (which is the latest browser I've found for Solaris 8 so far) to run. I have Netscape 4.76 on the machine, which is too old to deal well with the modern web. I'm not sure how much better Firefox 2 will be, but I'd like to find out! -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X <nf6x at nf6x.net> http://www.nf6x.net/

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Non-baking cure for sticky shed?

by mattislind＠gmail.com

I was trying to archive a bunch of 8 inch floppy disks. Everything was well until I tried an Inmac brand disk. It had severe sticky shed problems. Since it was a non-important disk it wasn't that bad. Baking might solve the problem so before continuing with the rest of the Inmac branded disks with more valuable content I searched internet for knowhow on baking. Then I found this article https://www.questia.com/library/journal/1G1-359998950/the-new-non-baking-cu… on a cure for the sticky shed without baking the tape. I haven't read the article in ARSC since I am not a member. But maybe someone knows what this is about? /Mattis

10 years, 4 months

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PDP-11/03, LSI-11 KEV11-C CIS option

by spacewar＠gmail.com

On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 12:51 PM, Brian L. Stuart <blstuart at bellsouth.net> wrote: > I'll be glad to loan them to you for the good of the community and history. That would be great, thanks! I'll email you my contact information. Could you please post the markings of the other 40-pin chips as well, and/or a photograph? Best regards, Eric

10 years, 4 months

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PDP-11/03, LSI-11 KEV11-C CIS option

by blstuart＠bellsouth.net

On Sat, 1/30/16, Eric Smith <spacewar at gmail.com> wrote: > Does anyone have a PDP-11/03 or LSI-11 with the KEV11-C CIS > (Commercial Instruction Set) option? It may have also been known as > DIS (Dibol Instruction Set).? It apparently consists of two microcode > ROM chips (MICROMs), 23-004B5 and 23-005B5. Eric, It turns out my quad height LSI-11 card has the 23-004B5 and 23-005B5 chips on it. The full markings are: DEC 3025D 23-004B5 8030 B and DEC 3026 D (or maybe B) 23-005B5 8015 C I'll be glad to loan them to you for the good of the community and history. BLS

10 years, 4 months

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Can Windows 98SE run on an Intel I7 with SATA hard drives?

by mark＠markesystems.com

From: jnc at mercury.lcs.mit.edu (Noel Chiappa) > > Win-98 SE ... it would have been nice if it recognized USB storage > > devices natively. > > There is that package you can add (my copy is in a self-extracting > archive, > called "nusb23e.exe") that recognizes USB drives, etc. I run a number of > USB > devices (memory sticks, mice, etc) on my 98SE's and they all work fine. Thanks for the tip - I wish I'd known about that 15 years ago! From: "Jerome H. Fine" <jhfinedp3k at compsys.to> >> >mark at markesystems.com wrote: >> >>> QUESTION: Is it even possible to run Win98SE on a current >>> Intel I7 CPU with SATA hard disk drives? I realize that it might >> >> Almost certainly not, at least practically. Even if you can get it to >> boot and install, it will have no idea how to handle any of the modern > > Then I am really confused. I have two older systems that > are able to run 64-bit Windows 7, an E8400 and a Q9550. > Both take SATA drives which are still available. The mother > > I can also still boot from both system using an old DOS 3.5" > floppy media and run Ghost 7.0 with these old SATA drives, > but as far as I can understand, using the device drivers on the > floppy drive. I believe that Win98 tries to use its own drivers for disk, but if it can't find any that work it just uses the ones built into the BIOS. Performance suffers, because all disk I/O becomes blocking, but it still works. With a modern disk with built-in cache, one probably wouldn't even notice the difference (except for the floppy). > Is it likely that either of these two systems be able to run > Win98SE with the SATA hard drives, in one case 500 GB > each and the other system has 1 TB drives. In that case, it I would expect that you could successfully boot and install Win98, although you couldn't use all the drive in one volume (FAT32 is good for a little over 100 gig); I've never tried partitioning up a terabyte drive and running Win98 on a appropriately-sized partition, but it seems like it might work OK. As above, the BIOS will take care of the fact that Win98 never heard of SATA, and also abstract the USB keyboard and I think the mouse to look like AT-type devices. As I mentioned, though, it won't know about the video adapter, so that will run in VGA 640x480 16-color mode; the sound card won't be available either, nor the network interface. VirtualBox simulates all nice period-style hardware for those things. > As I mentioned, the only two applications I would run would > be the DOS variant of Ersatz-11 and Netscape 7.2 for e-mail > and newsgroups. I suspect that both of those would run on Windows XP, and VirtualBox handles that extremely well. From: Chuck Guzis <cclist at sydex.com> > I didn't mention that I've got 98SE running on an 820 chipset > (RIMM/RDRAM is silly cheap now) with a Tuallie 1.4GHz in a Powerleap > slocket. It doesn't much agree with the Crystal CS4622 audio, but > perhaps that's just a matter of finding the right driver. As I predicted... :-) >> Windows 98 was supposed to support a maximum of 2GB of memory, however >> it has a bug in the Vcache driver which causes problems unless you limit > Exactly what I've done with 440GX system. Using a different XMS driver, > I keep a 1GB RAMdisk there. But it runs quite nicely in just 64 or 128 meg, which was much more typical of a machine of that period. > On faster, more modern systems, I use VirtualBox. Just not worth the > extra trouble finding drivers--but I suspect 98SE will run on P4 systems Yup, that's what seems to work best for me. From: "js at cimmeri.com" <js at cimmeri.com> > The one thing I'm not seeing mentioned > in re VirtualBox is that what if you > have a legacy Win 98SE system with > hardware in it, like a GPIB card or > sound card? Or if you have software > that talks to hardware via serial or > parallel ports eg. eprom burners, Zector > ZVG vector graphic driver for MAME, etc. Yup, that's true. VirtualBox will provide one or two com ports (optionally mapped to the real host ports, or just pipes to other virtual machines), but it doesn't support the parallel port. And as you've pointed out, any specialized hardware won't work at all (because the backplane doesn't really exist). > The other hassle is having to > essentially rebuild an Win98 (or any > other) machine from scratch in order to > try to replicate an existing setup. I Also true... From: Josh Dersch <derschjo at gmail.com> > everything else, you're SOL. I could see it being possible to modify > VirtualBox to support parallel port forwarding or other exotic hardware Wow! I guess it is open source, but that would be quite a bit of work, I expect. If you do it, let me know - I've got an old Needham's PROM programmer that would be nice to have working again. From: John Foust <jfoust at threedee.com> > No one has mentioned the Windows Virtual PC, a Microsoft product, > that lets you run Windows XP apps in a virtual environment under > Windows 7 Pro, letting XP apps run in their natural window on > the 7 desktop, or you can run the virtual XP machine desktop > in its own window. I used an earlier version of Virtual PC on XP, and found that it worked fairly well, although it was very resource intensive. So many applications failed to run correctly on Win7 that Microsoft felt compelled to make a very tightly integrated version for that operating system (Pro or greater only); it was pretty neat how tightly integrated it was. That's how I ran QuickBooks and a couple of other recalcitrant programs, but it wasn't a panacea. In particular, applications that had several programs running simultaneously, especially if they communicated via DDE (DDEML) were still broken, and the tight integration was always a little scary to me. (If I fired up a "stand-alone" XP machine, it would always want to log off or shut down the one that had been running some other application, and because of the Draconian security, I was never sure that I'd be able to get it back...) > It will also run Windows 98, with a few gotchas: This is what I did with the earlier Virtual PC on top of XP, and it worked fairly well. Like VirtualBox, it's free, but I find that VirtualBox tries to do less integration "magic", and therefore feels like a more stable and clearly delineated product. I've seen no mention of Virtual PC on Win8 / 8.1 / 10 - does it still exist, and is that "XP-mode" feature still available? ~~ Mark Moulding

10 years, 4 months

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Preferred way of substituting TFT for CRT Monitor?

by Martin.Hepperle＠dlr.de

I have got a HP 9000/217 machine with a standard video card. This card has a monochrome composite output (resolution is as low as about 512x400, but I might replace it with a higher resolution card). A small 9" HP monitor that I used for testing only shows me 2 or 3 bands of the image and cannot capture the signal properly. All I have are modern TFT monitors which usually have VGA and/or DVI inputs, no separate R-G-B or monochrome jacks. What is the preferred way to connect "old" composite video signals to a modern TFT monitor without losing too much sharpness? I understand that interpolation is an unavoidable problem. Searching the internet did not give me a clear answer. Do you have any recommendations? Thank you, Martin

10 years, 4 months

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Any hope for CBM VIC-1525 Printers & ribbons?

by drlegendre＠gmail.com

Has anyone found a source for replacement ribbons, or even re-inking supplies, for the Commodore VIC-1525 printer? This printer was manufactured in Japan by Seikosha for CBM, and was also sold in the USA by Radio Shack, re-badged under the Tandy / TRS-80 brand. For reference - The VIC-1525 employs an odd two-cassette ribbon system, that uses a continuous-loop ribbon only about 24" in total length. One cassette contains a spring tensioner mechanism, with the second cassette holding the inking roller and (friction?) gear. The ribbon loop is strung side-to-side between the two cartridges, with the front strand passing in front of the print head, and the rear strand passing through the ribbon advance clutch. Google turns up nothing, except for some homebrew recipes for making new ink.. and one site offering exorbitantly priced NOS ribbons that are just as likely dried up. Thanks for any & all input..

10 years, 4 months

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Substituting DSHD for DSDD disks (or DS2D if you prefer)

by echristopherson＠gmail.com

I know Chuck Guzis has written about this, but I don't see that he's done so publicly in the last few years, so I thought I'd ask here about his and others' views on the perennial question of whether (some) 3.5" DSHD disks can be reliably used in DSDD-only drives. The oft-repeated claim is that writing can appear to work just fine, but that even a few months later read errors will occur. On <http://www.retrotechnology.com/herbs_stuff/guzis.html> Chuck was quoted as (actually, correct me if I'm wrong -- it's a little hard to be sure this was Chuck's words) as saying "Usually, they're just fine, with the error rate approximately the same, whether or not 2D or HD media was used." Just before that, he said "I think that the overall quality of DSHD 3.5" media isn't what it used to be, so that might contribute to the general impression that 3.5" HD diskettes used as 2D aren't reliable. I have problems enough finding reliable 3.5" DSHD floppies used as such." Chuck et al., what's your feeling now, both on the overall reliability of HD disks in DD drives, and on whether it depends on how recently the disks were produced? Elsewhere on the page (I don't recall now if it was Herb or Chuck that said it) it was conjectured that HD disks that have never been formatted as HD, -OR- disks that have gone through a good degaussing, will have better luck retaining data. What does everyone think about this? And would an electromagnetic library security system (the kind that's like a tube through which checked-out materials are put; often with a caution not to put tapes or floppies through it) be a suitable degausser? -- Eric Christopherson

10 years, 4 months

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Big-Board II & Micro Cornucopia User Group Disks?

by james.h.simpson＠gmail.com

I'm a retired software engineer. My first home computer was a Z80 CP/M system built on the Big-Board II back in the mid '80s. I bought a bare board kit and went from there. It took me several months to collect all the parts before I had a running system. After discovering some very old M80 assembler listings while rummaging in my basement, I've been bit by the "nostalgia bug" so I dug out my old system and powered it on. It still runs after all of these years. The problem is that I've lost most of my old 5.25 media and therefore the system utilities . I'm looking for any Big-Board II system disk images/files I can find. I'm also trying to recover all of the Micro Cornucopia UG diskette data. Ultimately I want to put all of that old data on optical media for safe keeping. I'm looking for any BB-II stuff or Micro-C user group disk stuff. Help here will be much appreciated! Thanks, Jim Simpson

10 years, 4 months

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Can Windows 98SE run on an Intel I7 with SATA hard drives?

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: CuriousMarc > I could run Explorer 5.5, but never 6.0. ?? 6.0 runs fine on all my 98SE machines. If you need to get to a later Web site (many don't work with older IE's now), there is a version of Opera (9.80, Version/10.63) which works under 98SE and makes most sites accessible. There are only a _very_ few where I have to use another browser running under a later Windows. Noel

10 years, 4 months

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What to Do with a PS/2?

by nf6x＠nf6x.net

To my surprise, I found something just barely old enough to interest me on the e-waste pile at work: An IBM PS/2 85 from around 1993 or so. The hard drive is long gone and it didn't include a keyboard, but it did come with a model 8516 touch screen display and original mouse. I already had a nice Model M to plug into it, plus some scsi2sd adapters sitting around waiting for projects like this one. I'm new to the PS/2 line, but after some poking around I found images of the reference and diagnostic disks necessary to set this machine up. I also found the ADF file needed for the Cabletron ethernet card in it. The machine has 12M of parity RAM, with one SIMM slot pair still open. It has a 2.88M 3.5" floppy and a 1.2M 5.25" floppy. The 5.25" floppy is a motor-eject style which I haven't encountered before. This model has a 486SX 33MHz CPU, and the math coprocessor socket is empty. Aside from a bunch of dust that I cleaned out, it's in pretty nice cosmetic shape. This particular model was intended for duty as a server. I've been posting pictures of the machine on Twitter over the last few days, starting on 1/21/2016: https://twitter.com/nf6x/media I replaced the CMOS battery (conveniently, a CR2032 coin cell, available at the local supermarket), reconfigured the CMOS settings, set up a scsi2sd as four emulated 512M SCSI hard drives, milled a pair of generic PC hard drive mounting rails to length for use in a PS/2, and installed MS-DOS 6.22 on it. OS/2 2.0 would probably be more appropriate for this machine, but I don't have it. I see original OS/2 2.0 boxes in the shrink wrap on eBay, but eBay and I are seeing other people at this time. Well, I seem to have it fully working aside from not having suitable software installed to test out the touch screen and networking card. The monitor sometimes makes a bit of high-pitch whine which by some miracle I can still hear. Younger folks might find it objectionable. I wonder if it would be effective as a child repellant? :) Thankfully, it doesn't seem to set my dogs to howling. And now that it is cleaned up and working, I have no clue about what to do with it! I just didn't want to see it go to the landfill or end up as toxic dust in some poor guy's lungs in India, so I got permission and then carted it home. I am not normally interested in PC-family machines, but actual IBM ones interest me a bit. And the countless ways IBM found to make the PS/2 line incompatible with regular PC lines give me things to bitch about, and that in turn gives my life purpose. :) So, would any of y'all like to help me brainstorm about interesting applications for this vintage heap, or maybe point me towards non-eBay sources of software that it would like to run? -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X <nf6x at nf6x.net> http://www.nf6x.net/

10 years, 4 months

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IBM 3101-12 ASCII terminal - need fuse holder

by seefriek＠gmail.com

Wow...that fired some old brain cells. I saved one of these around 86-87 and had it hooked to a VAX/BSD4 system for a while. All I really remember about it was that it was pretty well made but after wasting too much time mucking about I could never finesse a termcap entry for it that didn't have some more or less annoying corner-case breakage. I suspected that even though it had a serial port and "VT compatibility", IBM didn't much want to encourage anyone hooking one up to a non-IBM system. KJ

10 years, 4 months

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Can Windows 98SE run on an Intel I7 with SATA hard drives?

by jhfinedp3k＠compsys.to

I run Windows 98SE on a 14 year old Pentium III. I have replaced the power supply twice and all three hard disk drives. It is a really good system to run the Ersatz-11 emulator for the PDP-11, specifically RT-11. Since Ersatz-11 has built-in VT100 emulation, I don't need a separate terminal emulator. I also run Netscape 7.2 for e-mail and newsgroups. And that is all - no surfing the internet or google of any sort. Incidentally, I use Ghost 7.0 for backups to DVDs. Aside from the daylight savings time changing 3 weeks too late in the spring and a week early in the fall, I really like the system and I would like to use it for another 20 years. Since I am 77 years old now, I figure that will be just about satisfactory. The Pentium III hardware is more than a bit of a concern. I would be very pleased to upgrade to 64-bit Windows 10, but the DOS variant of Ersatz-11 is not supported and I really would prefer to keep using Netscape 7.2 since I have over 100,000 e-mails and posts to newsgroups that it is important to be able to keep. QUESTION: Is it even possible to run Win98SE on a current Intel I7 CPU with SATA hard disk drives? I realize that it might be possible under a virtual machine, but I really want all of the advantages that Win98SE provides. One problem, of course, is that there must be a patch to Win98SE when more than 1 GB of actual physical RAM is present. But I can't seem to find out anything else. What leads me to believe that there is a reasonable chance is that the IDENTICAL 3.5" floppy media is able to boot DOS >from drive A: and run on both the Pentium III (with a 3.5" HD floppy drive, of course) AND on a Q9550 Core 2 quad CPU which also has a 3.5" HD floppy drive which currently runs 64-bit Windows 7 from the C: drive, of course, using three SATA hard drives where the C: drive has an NTFS file structure and all the other partitions on all of the SATA drives have a FAT32 file structure. So without really understanding the details of the device drivers and the BIOS, it would seem that the SATA drive hardware and software is compatible. Ghost 7.0 is a file on the F: drive of the Q9550 CPU (first extended partition of the 1st physical SATA hard drive). Ghost is able to take a file produced as a backup image on the Pentium III system (and copied over the router connecting the Pentium III and the Q9500 systems - that also provides internet access for both systems) and re-create the same files on a specified partition on the Q9550 via the Ghost 7.0 program while the Q9550 is booted from the 3.5" floppy media. Since the SATA hard drives on the Q9550 system don't seem to have a problem with DOS on the floppy, then I have some hope that Win98SE could manage them as well. Has anyone experience or knowledge about being able to run Win98SE using an Intel I7 CPU with SATA hard drives all of them using a FAT32 file structure? Alternatively, does it seem reasonable to attempt to keep a system with a Pentium III CPU and associated hardware running for another 20 years? Jerome Fine

10 years, 5 months

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VCF East exhibit registration is open

by evan＠snarc.net

VCF East is April 15-17; the exhibit halls are open April 16-17 (April 15 is all tech repair classes -- to be announced soon). Click here to register an exhibit: http://tinyurl.com/htlfsmh

10 years, 5 months

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CDC Sabre 8" SMD blues

by ian.finder＠gmail.com

Hi folks, I recently picked up a Symbolics system built around an 8" Control Data Corp. Sabre hard drive. Some files read when I show the FEP directory listing but many show as "Error reading file header, wrong pkid read" which I assume is some sort of FEP FS integrity check. In short, the drive becomes ready and much of the data appears still there, but I have some brand of consistent read errors that preclude the machine from booting. It's not a software issue as the machine was deinstalled in a working condition. Anyone familiar with these terrible drives? Am I totally up the creek? I tried a couple different orientations. Thanks, - Ian Sent from Outlook Mobile

10 years, 5 months

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What to Do with a PS/2?

by john.h.blake＠gmail.com

Vetusware is highly unreliable and tries to charge for accounts, which isn't worth it at all because most of the things I've gotten from there haven't worked. Try: https://winworldpc.com/library Their images are tested, I've used the OS/2 Warp 4 images to install on an old thinkpad 760. I'd also suggest you try some other OSes, Nextstep 3.3 should work (and may have network drivers), as well as Unixware, GEM (on top of DOS), and possibly even AT&T SVR4 or one of the later Xenix variants. If you do decide to go with OS/2, you should also be able to find native applications and development tools there too. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

10 years, 5 months

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Decimal Adjust Accumulator on the 4004

by kylevowen＠gmail.com

I'm currently writing a bit of code for the 4004 at the moment, and playing with it in the online Javascript emulator found here: http://e4004.szyc.org/emu/ According to http://e4004.szyc.org/iset.html (which I believe is copied straight from the MCS-4 Users Manual), the DAA instruction should increment the accumulator by 6 if carry is set or if the accumulator is greater than 9. Carry should be set following the instruction if the resulting addition generated a carry; otherwise it's unaffected. Let's say the accumulator is currently 9, carry is not set. I add another 9. Accumulator is now 2 with a carry. Running DAA should turn this into 8 with carry set, indicating that 9+9=(1)8. Am I thinking through this correctly? I ask, because according to the simulator's source code, DAA won't do that, if I'm following it correctly: function opDAA() { //DAA Decimal Adjust Accumulator if(A_reg > 9) A_reg += 6; C_flag=0; if (A_reg & 0xf0) {A_reg&=0xf; C_flag=1;} incPC(); } It says that it'll only add 6 if the accumulator is greater than 9, not if a carry is already set. It will then reset carry and set it if and only if there was a carry. Have I found a bug in the simulator? Am I misreading the MCS-4 Users Manual? In any event, this is my proposed fix to better match what the instruction description says: function opDAA() { //DAA Decimal Adjust Accumulator if((A_reg > 9) | (C_flag)) A_reg += 6; if (A_reg & 0xf0) {A_reg&=0xf; C_flag=1;} incPC(); } Seems to work as I would expect it to. Thanks, Kyle

10 years, 5 months

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Can Windows 98SE run on an Intel I7 with SATA gard drives?

by jhfinedp3k＠compsys.to

>mark at markesystems.com wrote: >> Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2016 11:44:44 -0500 >> From: "Jerome H. Fine" <jhfinedp3k at compsys.to> >> Subject: Can Windows 98SE run on an Intel I7 with SATA gard drives? >> >> I run Windows 98SE on a 14 year old Pentium III. I have >> replaced the power supply twice and all three hard disk drives. > >> QUESTION: Is it even possible to run Win98SE on a current >> Intel I7 CPU with SATA hard disk drives? I realize that it might >> be possible under a virtual machine, but I really want all of the >> advantages that Win98SE provides. One problem, of course, > > > Almost certainly not, at least practically. Even if you can get it to > boot and install, it will have no idea how to handle any of the modern > peripherals, and drivers certainly won't be available. So sound won't > work, the screen will be limited to VGA-16, and I'm not sure about the > keyboard and mouse (there's a reasonable chance that the BIOS will > emulate the legacy PS-2 devices, just as it's abstracting the details > of the SATA disks). Then I am really confused. I have two older systems that are able to run 64-bit Windows 7, an E8400 and a Q9550. Both take SATA drives which are still available. The mother boards are ASUS5B. I would guess they are both about 7 years old and I would hope that some of that old hardware might be a bit easier to find. I can also still boot from both system using an old DOS 3.5" floppy media and run Ghost 7.0 with these old SATA drives, but as far as I can understand, using the device drivers on the floppy drive. Is it likely that either of these two systems be able to run Win98SE with the SATA hard drives, in one case 500 GB each and the other system has 1 TB drives. In that case, it would still be possible to use current SATA drives, but the 1 GB limit on physical memory for Win98SE would need to be patched. By the way, the Pentium III that is 12 years old has 768 MB of memory, so it is possible to run Win98SE with more than 500 MB of physical memory. As I mentioned, the only two applications I would run would be the DOS variant of Ersatz-11 and Netscape 7.2 for e-mail and newsgroups. Jerome Fine

10 years, 5 months

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[SPAM key] - Re: Can Windows 98SE run on an Intel I7 with SATA gard drives?

by jhfinedp3k＠compsys.to

>mark at markesystems.com wrote: >> Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2016 11:44:44 -0500 >> From: "Jerome H. Fine" <jhfinedp3k at compsys.to> >> Subject: Can Windows 98SE run on an Intel I7 with SATA gard drives? >> >> I run Windows 98SE on a 14 year old Pentium III. I have >> replaced the power supply twice and all three hard disk drives. > >> QUESTION: Is it even possible to run Win98SE on a current >> Intel I7 CPU with SATA hard disk drives? I realize that it might >> be possible under a virtual machine, but I really want all of the >> advantages that Win98SE provides. One problem, of course, > > Almost certainly not, at least practically. Even if you can get it to > boot and install, it will have no idea how to handle any of the modern > peripherals, and drivers certainly won't be available. So sound won't > work, the screen will be limited to VGA-16, and I'm not sure about the > keyboard and mouse (there's a reasonable chance that the BIOS will > emulate the legacy PS-2 devices, just as it's abstracting the details > of the SATA disks). Then I am really confused. I have two older systems that are able to run 64-bit Windows 7, an E8400 and a Q9550. Both take SATA drives which are still available. The mother boards are ASUS5B. I would guess they are both about 7 years old and I would hope that some of that old hardware might be a bit easier to find. I can also still boot from both system using an old DOS 3.5" floppy media and run Ghost 7.0 with these old SATA drives, but as far as I can understand, using the device drivers on the floppy drive. Is it likely that either of these two systems be able to run Win98SE with the SATA hard drives, in one case 500 GB each and the other system has 1 TB drives. In that case, it would still be possible to use current SATA drives, but the 1 GB limit on physical memory for Win98SE would need to be patched. By the way, the Pentium III that is 12 years old has 768 MB of memory, so it is possible to run Win98SE with more than 500 MB of physical memory. As I mentioned, the only two applications I would run would be the DOS variant of Ersatz-11 and Netscape 7.2 for e-mail and newsgroups. Jerome Fine

10 years, 5 months

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Front Panels

by rodsmallwood52＠btinternet.com

Hi Guys What a week! First I had to reject a batch of panels because some text was not centered right. Then whilst the matt black on the front gave a really nice finish I felt the resistance to abrasion could be better. So I've switched to a silk textured surface base material. It mimics the diffuse layer on the front side of the original board really well. But of course it resists abrasion better (because its the surface of the actual material and not just a coating) and also it provides a better key for the inks to adhere to. It gives the same effect of there being a front matt black layer as did the original. It looked good on the sample. It still leaves me the option to put black on the front if needed. I took the opportunity to add rounded corners and have them drill the big hole for the key lock Next the great US snow storm stopped shipments to the US (they are still not caught up) and then my email stated acting up. Some emails came through and some didn't. Any way it looks like I am just about back on track.: The first batch of predrilled silk textured front panel blanks are due now and the silk screen shop will run them when they arrive. The new packaging has arrived. The shippers will start to accept new parcels for the US on Monday or Tuesday. Finally they fixed my email late yesterday and its still OK. Rod

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