28 Jan
2016
28 Jan
'16
8:45 a.m.
I run Windows 98SE on a 14 year old Pentium III. I have
replaced the power supply twice and all three hard disk drives.
It is a really good system to run the Ersatz-11 emulator for the
PDP-11, specifically RT-11. Since Ersatz-11 has built-in VT100
emulation, I don't need a separate terminal emulator. I also run
Netscape 7.2 for e-mail and newsgroups. And that is all - no
surfing the internet or google of any sort. Incidentally, I use
Ghost 7.0 for backups to DVDs.
Aside from the daylight savings time changing 3 weeks too late
in the spring and a week early in the fall, I really like the system
and I would like to use it for another 20 years. Since I am
77 years old now, I figure that will be just about satisfactory.
The Pentium III hardware is more than a bit of a concern. I would
be very pleased to upgrade to 64-bit Windows 10, but the DOS
variant of Ersatz-11 is not supported and I really would prefer to
keep using Netscape 7.2 since I have over 100,000 e-mails
and posts to newsgroups that it is important to be able to keep.
QUESTION: Is it even possible to run Win98SE on a current
Intel I7 CPU with SATA hard disk drives? I realize that it might
be possible under a virtual machine, but I really want all of the
advantages that Win98SE provides. One problem, of course,
is that there must be a patch to Win98SE when more than 1 GB
of actual physical RAM is present. But I can't seem to find out
anything else.
What leads me to believe that there is a reasonable chance is
that the IDENTICAL 3.5" floppy media is able to boot DOS
from drive A: and run on both the Pentium III (with a
3.5" HD
floppy drive, of course) AND on a Q9550 Core 2 quad CPU
which also has a 3.5" HD floppy drive which currently runs
64-bit Windows 7 from the C: drive, of course, using three
SATA hard drives where the C: drive has an NTFS file
structure and all the other partitions on all of the SATA drives
have a FAT32 file structure. So without really understanding
the details of the device drivers and the BIOS, it would seem
that the SATA drive hardware and software is compatible.
Ghost 7.0 is a file on the F: drive of the Q9550 CPU
(first extended partition of the 1st physical SATA hard drive).
Ghost is able to take a file produced as a backup image on
the Pentium III system (and copied over the router connecting
the Pentium III and the Q9500 systems - that also provides
internet access for both systems) and re-create the same files
on a specified partition on the Q9550 via the Ghost 7.0
program while the Q9550 is booted from the 3.5" floppy
media.
Since the SATA hard drives on the Q9550 system don't seem
to have a problem with DOS on the floppy, then I have some
hope that Win98SE could manage them as well. Has anyone
experience or knowledge about being able to run Win98SE
using an Intel I7 CPU with SATA hard drives all of them using
a FAT32 file structure?
Alternatively, does it seem reasonable to attempt to keep a
system with a Pentium III CPU and associated hardware
running for another 20 years?
Jerome Fine
28 Jan
28 Jan
9 a.m.
QUESTION: Is it even possible to run Win98SE on a
current
Intel I7 CPU with SATA hard disk drives? I realize that it might
be possible under a virtual machine, but I really want all of the
advantages that Win98SE provides. One problem, of course,
is that there must be a patch to Win98SE when more than 1 GB
of actual physical RAM is present. But I can't seem to find out
anything else.
No idea on RAM, probably not.
Be careful on the internet, your stuff is probably highly vulnerable. Use
a 2nd system for logging into any banking or other accounts and use
different passwords.
There was a SATA emulation of IDE IIRC, this was an option in the bios and
might work.
Bigger issues are going to be the drivers for the USB chipset, all of the
system devices, lack of drivers for audio, etc. Your I7 probably won't
have a PS2 port or mouse port, so you have to depend on the USB bus. The
BIOS **MIGHT** emulate old school but I doubt it on that new of school.
Really a VM is probably the best way to go.
Alternatively, does it seem reasonable to attempt to
keep a
system with a Pentium III CPU and associated hardware
running for another 20 years?
Sure why not? Amiga and Atari STs still work, 8088 PCs still work. The
failure point will be the electrolytic capacitors on the main board used
for noise filtering, it will be the same in the power supply. Since the
power supplies are all basically the same voltages that isn't that big of
a deal (+5/+12/-5/-12/+3.3v)
Back to running 98 on a I7. One thing you MIIIIGHTTTT be able to do is
find a I7 PICMG sub board which would give you an I7 processor with a PCI
bus computer. From here you could put in your Trident video card, a PCI
card that supports Windows 98 on USB, and other chipset cards of the old
school. Would it work? Not sure what 98 will do with all the modern
devices maybe you could ignore them all.
I picked up a Dolch Pac 64 which is a luggable and installed 98 on it. I
use a PCI card for IDE made by Promise, and I use a PATA to SD card
adapter and the whole thing runs on a SD card. I had to get a PCI USB card
from MicroCenter, which I looked up the chipset in
advance to confirm 98
drivers existed. I use USB thumbdrive to get data to the
system, and I use
a USB mouse since I couldn't find a working mouse around my place that was
PS/2 or that would work with the PS/2 to USB converters. I image it off a
LOT using linux (dd) so that if I bork a driver I don't have to start from
square one. It's cute but not practical for everyday use for me. My goals
were to run an ISA card for laser show playback made by Pangolin
(QuadMod32) and a Gravis Ultrasound. I wish it had room for a Sound
Blaster also, for demos. Not sure if the LCD would work well.
There are some PICMG based luggables, that would be where I might go if I
were you. You can swap the motherboard card between PII, PIII, P4,
and higher and still retain the backplane. But some motherboard cards
might require extra power connectors. There are also PATA to SATA bridges,
so you might be able to run a SATA based SSD on an old computer.
Good luck!
--
Ethan O'Toole
9:33 a.m.
On 28 January 2016 at 17:45, Jerome H. Fine <jhfinedp3k at compsys.to> wrote:
I run Windows 98SE on a 14 year old Pentium III. I
have
replaced the power supply twice and all three hard disk drives.
I have answered this at length before.
Do not even *TRY* to run Win9x on modern hardware. Most things won't
work, there are no drivers, and it remains horribly inefficient.
The same codebase as Netscape 7.2 still exists. It is called Mozilla
Seamonkey. It is a more modern, updated version of the *same program*.
I have previously posted links to detailed instructions on how you
could migrate your entire profile, complete and intact, onto Seamonkey
(or Thunderbird, the stand-alone mail program) without needing to
change or reconfigure anything.
NT-based Windows is a lot more pleasant, more reliable and on a modern
multicore CPU much faster and more responsive than Win98.
I suspect most people would recommend Windows 7, which has
substantially the same look and feel as Win 98 and would require
minimal re-familiarisation.
As for Ersatz-11, there is a Win32 version, or you could run the
existing version under a VM in Virtualbox, a free hypervisor.
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10:40 a.m.
The latest rig that I've run 98SE on is a Intel P3 (440GX) with 2GB of
memory. I can do it, but it took the "unofficial final service pack" to
reduce the amount of memory to something reasonable.
Drivers, I think would be the stumbling block on modern hardware. I'd
use VirtualBox in any case to deal with that issue. I've certainly done
with other old systems.
--Chuck
10:45 a.m.
On 28 January 2016 at 19:40, Chuck Guzis <cclist at sydex.com> wrote:
The latest rig that I've run 98SE on is a Intel
P3 (440GX) with 2GB of
memory. I can do it, but it took the "unofficial final service pack" to
reduce the amount of memory to something reasonable.
Exactly. I think it can't handle >512MB and it *definitely* can't do
multicore. It's pointless. It's buying a new car and putting
roller-skate wheels on it... because you're used to skates.
Drivers, I think would be the stumbling block on
modern hardware.
Definitely.
I'd use
VirtualBox in any case to deal with that issue. I've certainly done with
other old systems.
Well yes, but you need a host OS, and there is no reason not to _use_
that host OS and work on it.
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11:25 a.m.
On Thu, 28 Jan 2016, Liam Proven wrote:
Exactly. I think it can't handle >512MB and it
*definitely* can't do
multicore. It's pointless. It's buying a new car and putting
roller-skate wheels on it... because you're used to skates.
"Modern" car wheels look like wagon wheels to me.
Want some skates?
Why struggle with getting 98 going on "modern" hardware, when I would love
to give my mother's Win98SE e-machines with monitor, etc. to anybody who
will take it away. Berkeley, CA
Please do NOT ask me to ship it! (OK, I will ship it for $200)
Owned since new by a little old lady (recently deceased) who didn't go to
church on Sundays, but, other than taking my internet class, never liked
computers. 466MHz Celeron,5X DVD,8.4G drive,64M RAM, 56K modem!
It still has all of the original marketing stickers on its face, including
the one claiming "This computer is NEVER OBSOLETE" (pushing their internet
access, and a replacement machine every 2 years for $99 "Some restrictions
apply")
--
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11:32 a.m.
On 01/28/2016 10:45 AM, Liam Proven wrote:
Well yes, but you need a host OS, and there is no
reason not to
_use_ that host OS and work on it.
You've got a point, unless of course there are aspects of the Win9x API
that aren't supported by the more modern OS for a given application.
I've wondered for some time how long it will be before the only mainline
OSs will employ 64 bit architecture, leaving older 16-bit code in the
dustbin (unless, of course, there are add-on packages that support
16-bit PM).
--Chuck
5:22 p.m.
On Thu, 28 Jan 2016, Chuck Guzis wrote:
The latest rig that I've run 98SE on is a Intel P3
(440GX) with 2GB of
memory. I can do it, but it took the "unofficial final service pack" to
reduce the amount of memory to something reasonable.
Drivers, I think would be the stumbling block on modern hardware. I'd
use VirtualBox in any case to deal with that issue. I've certainly done
with other old systems.
Windows 98 worked fine with a 1.4GHz Tualatin Pentium III (socket 370) and
i815e chipset. It also worked just fine on a Pentium 4 and I suspect would
work with a Pentium D or Core Duo using only one CPU core.
Windows 98 was supposed to support a maximum of 2GB of memory, however it
has a bug in the Vcache driver which causes problems unless you limit the
memory it can use to 1 or 1.5GB.
5:37 p.m.
On 01/28/2016 05:22 PM, Tothwolf wrote:
On Thu, 28 Jan 2016, Chuck Guzis wrote:
Windows 98 worked fine with a 1.4GHz Tualatin Pentium
III (socket 370)
and i815e chipset. It also worked just fine on a Pentium 4 and I suspect
would work with a Pentium D or Core Duo using only one CPU core.
I didn't mention that I've got 98SE running on an 820 chipset
(RIMM/RDRAM is silly cheap now) with a Tuallie 1.4GHz in a Powerleap
slocket. It doesn't much agree with the Crystal CS4622 audio, but
perhaps that's just a matter of finding the right driver.
Windows 98 was supposed to support a maximum of 2GB of
memory, however
it has a bug in the Vcache driver which causes problems unless you limit
the memory it can use to 1 or 1.5GB.
Exactly what I've done with 440GX system. Using a different XMS driver,
I keep a 1GB RAMdisk there.
On faster, more modern systems, I use VirtualBox. Just not worth the
extra trouble finding drivers--but I suspect 98SE will run on P4 systems
as well.
--Chuck
6 p.m.
the amd 64's ran 98 se. it installs in less 23 seconds or somthing me and a
friend did it ran it for quiet a while
i7 are multi core dunno how 98 would handle that.
On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 7:37 PM, Chuck Guzis <cclist at sydex.com> wrote:
On 01/28/2016 05:22 PM, Tothwolf wrote:
On Thu, 28 Jan 2016, Chuck Guzis wrote:
Windows 98 worked fine with a 1.4GHz Tualatin Pentium III (socket 370)
and i815e chipset. It also worked just fine on a
Pentium 4 and I suspect
would work with a Pentium D or Core Duo using only one CPU core.
I didn't mention that I've got 98SE running on an 820 chipset (RIMM/RDRAM
is silly cheap now) with a Tuallie 1.4GHz in a Powerleap slocket. It
doesn't much agree with the Crystal CS4622 audio, but perhaps that's just a
matter of finding the right driver.
Windows 98 was supposed to support a maximum of 2GB of memory, however
it has a bug in the Vcache driver which causes
problems unless you limit
the memory it can use to 1 or 1.5GB.
Exactly what I've done with 440GX system. Using a different XMS driver, I
keep a 1GB RAMdisk there.
On faster, more modern systems, I use VirtualBox. Just not worth the
extra trouble finding drivers--but I suspect 98SE will run on P4 systems as
well.
--Chuck
29 Jan
29 Jan
8:04 a.m.
On 1/28/2016 8:37 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote:
On faster, more modern systems, I use
VirtualBox. Just not worth the extra
trouble finding drivers--but I suspect
98SE will run on P4 systems as well.
The one thing I'm not seeing mentioned
in re VirtualBox is that what if you
have a legacy Win 98SE system with
hardware in it, like a GPIB card or
sound card? Or if you have software
that talks to hardware via serial or
parallel ports eg. eprom burners, Zector
ZVG vector graphic driver for MAME, etc.
The other hassle is having to
essentially rebuild an Win98 (or any
other) machine from scratch in order to
try to replicate an existing setup. I
haven't seen any way to "capture" an
existing machine and all its disk
partitions -- especially when there's
multiple partitions of different types
-- and import it into the virtual
world. That'd be great.
- J.
8:12 a.m.
On 1/29/16 8:04 AM, js at cimmeri.com wrote:
The one thing I'm not seeing mentioned in re
VirtualBox is that what if
you have a legacy Win 98SE system with hardware in it, like a GPIB card
or sound card? Or if you have software that talks to hardware via
serial or parallel ports eg. eprom burners, Zector ZVG vector graphic
driver for MAME, etc.
A cycle-accurate simulator, like MAME, may be more appropriate in those
cases. Physical device pass through doesn't exist (yet) though. That is
one thing I think a lot of people would be interested in for legacy hw
though then you run into the problem of finding modern hardware with old
slots, since the simulation will give you a 100x hit in performance.
9:02 a.m.
On 1/29/16 8:04 AM, js at cimmeri.com wrote:
On 1/28/2016 8:37 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote:
Serial ports can be forwarded to real hardware (as
can USB ports, though
that's less applicable for vintage hardware). Unless you have a very
special-purpose sound card, that's covered by the VM's sound hardware
(which can simulate a Sound-Blaster 16 compatible, IIRC). For
everything else, you're SOL. I could see it being possible to modify
VirtualBox to support parallel port forwarding or other exotic hardware
but as you move away from generic interfaces like serial/parallel it
would get a lot more difficult.
On faster, more modern systems, I use VirtualBox. Just not worth the
extra trouble finding drivers--but I suspect 98SE will run on P4
systems as well.
The one thing I'm not seeing mentioned in re VirtualBox is that what
if you have a legacy Win 98SE system with hardware in it, like a GPIB
card or sound card? Or if you have software that talks to hardware
via serial or parallel ports eg. eprom burners, Zector ZVG vector
graphic driver for MAME, etc.
The other hassle is having to essentially rebuild an Win98 (or any
other) machine from scratch in order to try to replicate an existing
setup. I haven't seen any way to "capture" an existing machine and
all its disk partitions -- especially when there's multiple partitions
of different types -- and import it into the virtual world. That'd
be great.
It's certainly possible to get disk images of all drives in the old
system -- I'd use an external IDE/SATA -> USB adapter and do the "dd"
equivalent on the OS of your choice, then there are tools to convert to
the VM's native disk image format. It's not trivial, but it's also far
from difficult. Windows 95-based OSes are more
resilient to hardware
changes than the NT-based OSes, mostly because 95 can fall
back to BIOS
calls to access the hard disk so even if the hard drive controller
changes it can still boot. So once you have your disk images in hand,
you can set them up in a VM (configured with Windows 95-compatible
hardware), boot the system and let Plug 'N Play find all the new
hardware. I've found this works maybe 80% of the time (and on a VM, if
it doesn't work you haven't really lost anything but a bit of time...).
Then again, it's been awhile since I last had to do this; as they say,
your mileage may vary.
- Josh
- J.
9:19 a.m.
The other hassle is having to
essentially rebuild an Win98 (or any
other) machine from scratch in order to try to replicate an existing
setup. I haven't seen any way to "capture" an existing machine and all
its disk partitions -- especially when there's multiple partitions of
different types
-- and import it into the virtual
world. That'd be great.
Not for free but AFAIK VMWare Pro allows you to do this.
-Ali
9:50 a.m.
At 11:19 AM 1/29/2016, Ali wrote:
Yes, the VMware Converter can do this. It'll create a VM from a disk image.
No one has mentioned the Windows Virtual PC, a Microsoft product,
that lets you run Windows XP apps in a virtual environment under
Windows 7 Pro, letting XP apps run in their natural window on
the 7 desktop, or you can run the virtual XP machine desktop
in its own window.
It will also run Windows 98, with a few gotchas:
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/virtual_pc_guy/archive/2010/05/27/installing-window…
- John
The other
hassle is having to essentially rebuild an Win98 (or any
other) machine from scratch in order to try to replicate an existing
setup. I haven't seen any way to "capture" an existing machine and all
its disk partitions -- especially when there's multiple partitions of
different types -- and import it into the virtual world. That'd be great.
Not for free but AFAIK VMWare Pro allows you to do this.
9:39 a.m.
On 01/29/2016 08:04 AM, js at cimmeri.com wrote:
The one thing I'm not seeing mentioned in re
VirtualBox is that what
if you have a legacy Win 98SE system with hardware in it, like a GPIB
card or sound card? Or if you have software that talks to hardware
via serial or parallel ports eg. eprom burners, Zector ZVG vector
graphic driver for MAME, etc.
As others have mentioned, the best approach is to keep systems that
support what you need "just in case". In my case, some of the hardware
is of my own design and construction--and employs the ISA interface.
Sure, it's possible to redesign the hardware and write some new drivers,
but for the frequency of use, it's just not worth it. So I keep at
least one operating 8088, 80286, 80386, 80486, P1, P2 and P3 system around.
On many of my systems, DOS 7.x (Win98SE real-mode command prompt) is
also useful. Real MS-DOS also for the non-Win 9x capable systems.
It's not a big thing--just pull an appropriate machine out of the stack,
hook it up and you're off and running.
But VB is very useful in lots of cases.
In other words, I don't think there's a "one size fits all" solution.
--Chuck
11:17 a.m.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chuck Guzis" <cclist at sydex.com>
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 12:39 PM
As others have mentioned, the best approach is to keep
systems that
support what you need "just in case". In my case, some of the hardware
is of my own design and construction--and employs the ISA interface.
Sure, it's possible to redesign the hardware and write some new drivers,
but for the frequency of use, it's just not worth it. So I keep at
least one operating 8088, 80286, 80386, 80486, P1, P2 and P3 system around.
On many of my systems, DOS 7.x (Win98SE real-mode command prompt) is
also useful. Real MS-DOS also for the non-Win 9x capable systems.
It's not a big thing--just pull an appropriate machine out of the stack,
hook it up and you're off and running.
But VB is very useful in lots of cases.
In other words, I don't think there's a "one size fits all" solution.
--Chuck
----- Reply -----
Agreed.
FWIW, I recycled a lot of PC stuff after my VCF ban but I do still have about 50 or so
system boxes (mostly IBM) awaiting their turn; probably a third or so are directly W98SE
compatible and some even still have W98SE CoAs on the side.
Of course shipping (from Toronto) would not be cheap, although if Jerome wants one I could
probably deliver it since he's also in Toronto ;-).
It's fairly low on my priority list though, so it might be a while before I look
through the piles; if/when I do I'll start with the P4s and leave the older ones till
last, JIC.
m
1:23 p.m.
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of
js at cimmeri.com
Sent: 29 January 2016 16:04
To: General at classiccmp.org; Discussion at classiccmp.org:On-Topic and Off-
Topic Posts <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Subject: Re: Can Windows 98SE run on an Intel I7 with SATA hard drives?
On 1/28/2016 8:37 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote:
MAME,
On faster, more modern systems, I use VirtualBox. Just not worth the
extra trouble finding drivers--but I suspect 98SE will run on P4
systems as well.
The one thing I'm not seeing mentioned
in re VirtualBox is that what if you
have a legacy Win 98SE system with
hardware in it, like a GPIB card or
sound card? Or if you have software
that talks to hardware via serial or
parallel ports eg. eprom burners, Zector ZVG vector graphic driver for etc.
VMWare Player, which is free will re-map modern PCI-Express parallel and
serial ports which have odd IRQ's back to the ones legacy drivers expect. I
keep a copy of XP in a VMware Player VM for my old Parallel Port JTAG
programmer for some old Spartan 3 boards I have.
The other hassle is having to
essentially rebuild an Win98 (or any
other) machine from scratch in order to try to replicate an existing
setup. I
haven't seen any way to "capture" an
existing machine and all its disk
partitions -- especially when there's multiple partitions of different
types
-- and import it into the virtual
world. That'd be great.
- J.
30 Jan
30 Jan
1:16 a.m.
I managed to run Win98 SE (the Second Edition is important!) on a Core Duo
E6700 2.6 GHz with SATA. But it was a very hard job to get it going. The
motherboard still had a legacy PCI slot on it which was helpful. Here is the
procedure I had to go through.
You'll need a Win95 or 98 "DOS" boot disc properly configured to recognize
your CD-ROM to start the install process.
You will probably need a trip to your BIOS to enable legacy mouse and legacy
hard drive modes.
First you have to remove memory until it has only 1 GB left while you
install. Later you boot into safe mode and add two lines to your
C:\Windows\system.ini to limit memory:
[386 Enh]
MaxPhysPage = 30000
[vcache]
MaxFileCache = 393216
Then after install you have to fight the hardware and drivers pretty hard
until it boots without crashing. Boot with step by step confirmation and
logging on, and watch the bootlog.txt to see where it fails. You will need
many trips to Safe Mode and Device Manger to remove all the PCIe hardware it
discovers but can't deal with. In my case:
- disable the hard disk PCI controllers
- disable the built in Ethernet controller
- Changing the video driver to the MiniPort Standard VESA allowed me to boot
up to GUI without crashing. I then had a hard time to find a driver to allow
high res graphics, but eventually found one online that worked, don't
remember what it was.
- For Ethernet I just put an older 100 Mb generic PCI card that 98 could
deal with, as it obviously could not do anything with the onboard 1GB
Ethernet.
- I don't use sound, but if you wanted some you would do the same trick,
stick an old PCI sound card in there.
- USB mouse seems to work, albeit a bit choppy
- finally you can put back the rest of your memory in and you should be good
to go. Beware, once you do this, no more booting into safe mode unless you
remove the extra memory.
- I could run Explorer 5.5, but never 6.0. This gives you a tiny bit of the
web for emergency purposes.
Needless to say, you'd only boot to this Windows 98 for retro-computing
purposes.
Eventually I moved my main Win98 machine to a Dolch 65 (Pentium II 350 MHz),
which has 5.25" floppy support, two serial and one parallel ports, plenty of
PCI slots and more importantly an ISA slot. A much better match for Win98.
As expected, installing Windows 98 on it was a breeze, as was NT, and the
tougher one was Windows XP. I also successfully installed the 2010 version
of Crunchbang Linux on it (runs within the 256 MB of RAM!). It is now my
main retro-computing workhorse. There is a good chance one of the 5 OS's
(counting 16-bit Win98 DOS) will have a driver or a utility for any old
hardware I want to drive.
Marc
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Guzis
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 10:41 AM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: Can Windows 98SE run on an Intel I7 with SATA hard drives?
The latest rig that I've run 98SE on is a Intel P3 (440GX) with 2GB of
memory. I can do it, but it took the "unofficial final service pack" to
reduce the amount of memory to something reasonable.
Drivers, I think would be the stumbling block on modern hardware. I'd use
VirtualBox in any case to deal with that issue. I've certainly done with
other old systems.
--Chuck
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