- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by kyrrin＠bluefeathertech.com

This is being sent to both the CLASSICCMP and port-VAX lists since both are likely to contain people who use rack-mount hardware. Hi, folks, Time to get rid of a rack, methinks. I have one available that's 57" high (just under 5 feet) by 24.5" deep. It's enclosed, with a rear door, has wheels, and it also has a big honker of a filtered cooling fan mounted in the bottom. For power, it has a Wiremold-brand power strip mounted vertically in the back. The front and back rails are drilled and tapped for standard 10-32 rack screws. DEC used a zillion of 'em in most of their older products. Price: $50 or best offer. I'll also consider trades for (physically) smaller stuff. LOCAL PICKUP ONLY in Kent, WA (southeast of Seattle). Sorry, but there's no way I can ship this beast, not unless somebody wants to pay way more than it's probably worth for palletizing and freight. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner and head honcho, Blue Feather Technologies http://www.bluefeathertech.com // E-mail: kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com Amateur Radio: WD6EOS since Dec. '77 "Our science can only describe an object, event, or living thing in our own human terms. It cannot, in any way, define any of them..."

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Ontopic Drops was OT: The Drop Squad

by Innfogra＠aol.com

When we had to move from my original warehouse in Portland we brought in a 30 Yard dumpster. Now there was stuff on the seventh and the third floors. It was just too much of a temptation. On a quiet Sunday a television jumped out a window on the 7th floor, dead center into the dumpster. A huge crash echoed between the tall buildings of the street. We discovered that plastic likes to shatter into lots of pieces when dropped from great heights. Aiming from the seventh floor proved difficult, however. The next item, an old stereo split the far edge of the steel wall of the dumpster. While the motor and heavy parts ended in the dumpster much of the plastic littered the street. We went down and removed the plastic before we could get into trouble. We relocated to the third floor which had a lot of Wang 22XX terminals. Now this was much easier. The dumpster was not the small target that it seemed >from the seventh floor. The heavy weight of the Wangs made for a more predictable trajectory, not to mention a very satisfactory racket when they landed in the dumpster. They possessed considerably less kinetic energy and generally stayed in one piece with pops when the tube blew. Crash, pop, crash, pop, crash, pop... After all, these terminals were scheduled to be in the dumpster anyway, what better way to do it, and let gravity help. In the next warehouse we got in two pallets of copper wire on steel spools. It proved to be very difficult to destroy the spool yet keep the wire in a coil. Finally we took all the wire to the roof of our 6 story warehouse. Since we didn't want the wire to lose form we just pushed the spools off with little horizontal acceleration. We were right. When the spool hit the pavement of the parking lot. the ends jumped off the spool. The wire might expand in an elongated coil but was easy to gather together. The best solution was to hold the spool out and just drop it. The goal was to get the spool to land flat on one side. The opposite side would pop off and the coil would bounce up and down, staying tight. This was lots of fun on another Sunday in Portland. I have some video. I believe in using gravity as a tool. However most of these fun ways are illegal now in Portland. We did most of this 10 years ago. For those that are worried no collectable computers were sacrificed this way except the Wangs. Thanks for the URL on the Drop Squad. I enjoyed it. Paxton

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PDP-8/i Help needed

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

Hi, OK I have an 8/i, but now I have a lot of questions; first, where the heck is the serial number on the dumb thing? The top of the main frame seems to be the listing for the options and serial numbers, i.e. "KW8I 532," "MC8IA 1877," and "KP8I 774." I know this means it has/had another 4K of memory, the power fail/auto restart, and the RTC. On the back of the main frame, it has one more serial plate, though it looks like there used to be another one. It reads "M26 8I L3213." Is there any way to determine the stupid thing's serial number or is it there or ??? I have reason to believe that it's a fairly early machine, since it's a Negibus 8/i, and some of the chip dates are from late '68/early '69. I'd appreciate not being outbid on the 4K PDP-8 core stack on Ebay, as I need it to have the full 8K that it once had. Does anyone have any real docs for the beast they could part with? I mean originals, yes I greatly appreciate highgate, but since I plan to have a museum at some point, I really do need the real things. Not to mention that I don't have the equipment to print a D-size drawing (the module utilization chart). I also need the trim piece for the top of the rack it lives in (the old black 6'4" style). While I'm at it, I have no manuals for my 11/34A or my VAX-11/750.. Will J ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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OT: WebSurfer (New Linux-able web box)

by af-list＠wfi-inc.com

All the details are here: http://www.linux-hacker.net/websurfer/ws.html I believe they cost around $50 at CompUSA. Cheers, Aaron

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PDP-8/i Help needed

by aek＠spies.com

"I would appreciate it if you would not bid on eBay at all. You rarely pay for anything and have been kicked off twice for bidding on many items and never paying." Ditto from me, Will. You cost me several hundred dollars on the fiche and VT11 paper tapes. I make everything that I have available to the collecting community. So far I see no evidence that you are anything other than a collecting black hole, and see little reason to offer any direct help to you at all.

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Classic Databooks and Manuals available

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On May 1, 8:36, Pete Turnbull wrote: > On Apr 30, 19:21, James Willing wrote: > > Trying to clear some space in the 'Garage' yet again Oh, spit, that was supposed to go to Jim, not the list. Sorry. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Dept. of Computer Science University of York

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Tiny Cluster (VMS) ?

by CLASSICCMP＠trailing-edge.com

>Ok, so I've got two VLC's and I want to see if I can cluster them over >ethernet. This is a precursor to installing the 3400's to be a local >cluster over DSSI. What document do I start in? > >I'm guessing that I somehow need to get MOP running on the VMS system and >to tell it the ethernet address of the other VLC so that when it MOPs for >an image the cluster will respond. It's all very easy: login as SYSTEM, do a @CLUSTER_CONFIG, and answer the questions. You'll need to know the Ethernet hardware address of each satellite, of course, but otherwise it's easy to set up a basic cluster this way. Of course, there are also "non-basic" clusters, but you gotta start with the simple stuff first. Tim.

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IBM systems available

by west＠tseinc.com

First, my apologies to all who have been trying to reach me (classiccmp related) over the past two weeks - we're in the middle of moving our datacenter (still) and I've been unable to check my personal email let alone respond to it. By the end of this week I hope to respond to all emails... Second - I have been asked to pick up two ibm systems, each from a different source. One I know is an IBM 36, the other is either a 36 or 38. Both systems were just decomissioned and known to be working. One of them definitely includes a lot of documentation, I don't know about the other. Here's the problem - I have no interest in these systems whatsoever, and most importantly I do NOT have ANY room to store them except perhaps for a week - no more. If anyone wants these systems, please contact me at jlwest(a)tseinc.com quickly, as the owners want them moved immediately. Both owners have clearly stated the systems are available at no charge. I'm just not up for packaging and shipping these beasts myself. Both systems are in the Metro St. Louis, Missouri area. Any takers? Jay West

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Tiny Cluster (VMS) ?

by cmcmanis＠mcmanis.com

Ok, so I've got two VLC's and I want to see if I can cluster them over ethernet. This is a precursor to installing the 3400's to be a local cluster over DSSI. What document do I start in? I'm guessing that I somehow need to get MOP running on the VMS system and to tell it the ethernet address of the other VLC so that when it MOPs for an image the cluster will respond. --Chuck

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11/23+ question

by mbg＠world.std.com

>>part number 010-01135-00 rev b etched on it. > >I don't see that part number in my indices, but it certainly sounds like >it may be a DEC part number. With the FIFO and the UART, it obviously DEC part numbers are 2-5-2 numbers -- two digits, five digits, two digits. So with this being 3-5-2, it doesn't appear on the face of it to be a DEC part number. But the board numbers will tell... Megan Gentry Former RT-11 Developer +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | Internet (work): gentry!zk3.dec.com | | Unix Support Engineering Group | (home): mbg!world.std.com | | Compaq Computer Corporation | addresses need '@' in place of '!' | | 110 Spitbrook Rd. ZK03-2/T43 | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ | | Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler | | (603) 884 1055 | required." - mbg KB1FCA | +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+

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Classic Databooks and Manuals available

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

Hi, Jim. On Apr 30, 19:21, James Willing wrote: > Trying to clear some space in the 'Garage' yet again Ha! Tell me about it -- today and next weekend I have to completely empty mine, so the builders can start alterations (and the only reason I even considered it, is that the end result will include a proper raised floor and a computer room / workshop that's completely separate from the gardening tools). > General Instruments Microelectronics Data Catalog - 1982 I'd like this one. The only slight problem is getting money across the Atlantic, since Europe's banking system does't seem to talk well to the USA. I think the best way (I assume you have no way to take payment from a Mastercard or Visa card) is just to airmail you a few bills. Would that be acceptable? What do you reckon for postage? The last few books I got from US booksellers cost $2 - $3 each, using some low-cost UPS option. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Dept. of Computer Science University of York

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Classic Databooks and Manuals available

by jimw＠agora.rdrop.com

Trying to clear some space in the 'Garage' yet again, and so this time are offering some assorted classic (and some not so classic) Component Databooks and assorted manuals. The basic deal: $5.00 each (includes postage in the U.S. - elsewhere, ask) with the exception of a couple of application notes which are $1.00 (they are noted as such in the descriptions). Any not spoken for by next weekend will either make a pass at eBay or the recycling bin. So hesitation is not recommended... B^} There are no 'quantities' either in pricing or availability. There is only one of each item listed. First come, first served... Payment options: check, (must clear before shipment) or postal money order, PayPal (if you are in a hurry) So off we go: Available Documentation Listing -------------------------------- Ashton Tate Framework II Manual Set Dallas Seimconductor 1987-1988 Product Databook - Commemorative Edition Diodes Inc. Discrete Semiconductor Catalog 1995 Epson FX-286 User's Manual Epson FX Printer Operation Manual General Instruments Microelectronics Data Catalog - 1982 Harris Linear and Telecom ICs - 1991 Harris RCA High-Speed CMOS Logic ICs - 1989 Harris Microprocessor Products for Commercial and Military Digital Applications - 1992 Hearst 1992 IC Master - Volume 1 Hearst 1992 IC Master - Volume 2 Hearst 1992 IC Master - Volume 3 Hewlett Packard Using the HP Scanjet IIc Scanner with Microsoft Windows Hitachi IC Memory Databook - 1988 Hitachi LCD Controller/Driver LSI Databook - 1989 Hitachi DRAM Databook - 1991 Hitachi 8/16 Peripheral LSI Databook - 1987 Intel MCS-80/85 Family Users Manual Oct. 1979 Intel 8086 Family Users Manual Oct. 1979 Intel Microprocessors Volume III - 1994 Intel Intel486 Microprocessor Family - 1994 Intel Pentium Family User's Manual Volume 1: Databook - 1994 Intel Pentium Family User's Manual Volume 2: 82496/82497 Cache Controller and 82491/82492 Cache SRAM Data Book - 1994 Intel Pentium Family User's Manual Volume 3: Architecture and Programming - 1994 Intel 32-Bit Embedded Controller Handbook - 1989 Intel 8-Bit Embedded Controllers - 1990 Intel Embedded Applications - 1990 Intel Component Data Catalog - 1980 Intel Component Data Catalog - 1982 Intel Component Data Catalog - 1981 Intel App Note: Example Memory Subsystem for the Pentium Processor - 1993 Intel App Note: Pentium Processor Clock Design - 1993 Intel App Note: Designing with the Pentium Processor, 82496 Cache Processor and 82491 Cache SRAM CPU-Cache Chip Set - 1993 Intel PROM Programming Personality Modules ($1) Intel 27C64/87C64 64k CHMOS UV Erasable PROM ($1) Intel Pentium Processor 90/100MHz (preliminary) Intersil Component Data Catalog - 1987 Lotus 123 Release 2.01 Manual Lotus HAL User's Manual Maxim Short Form Product Guide - 1993 Maxim 1986 Analog Swuitches and Multiplexers Maxim 1986 Power Supply Circuits Maxim Product Selector Guide and Price List Maxim 1993 Applications and Product Highlights Maxim 1987 Data Converters and Voltage References Maxim 1993 New Releases Databook Volume II Microsoft Word 3.1 Manual MicroPro Wordstar version 3.3 Manual Mitsubishi Single-Chip 8-Bit Microcomputers - 1989 Mostek 3870/F8 Microcomputer Databook - 1981 Motorola Memory Data Q1/88 Motorola Small Signal Transistors, FETs, and Diodes Device Data Q4/93 Motorola Telecommunications Device Data Q3/89 Motorola CMOS Data 1978 Motorola Linear and Interface Integrated Circuits Q2/88 Motorola High-Speed CMOS Logic Data Q2/88 Motorola CMOS Application-Specific Standard ICs Q4/90 Motorola CMOS Logic Data Q2/88 National Semiconductor Semiconductor Master Selection Guide 1988 National Semiconductor Linear Databook 1 - 1988 National Semiconductor Linear Databook 2 - 1988 National Semiconductor Linear Databook 3 - 1988 National Semiconductor Microcontrollers Databook - 1988 National Semiconductor 48-Series Microprocessors Handbook - 1980 National Semiconductor Linear Applications Handbook - 1986 National Semiconductor CMOS Logic Handbook - 1988 National Semiconductor Memory Databook - 1988 National Semiconductor ALS/AS Logic Databook - 1987 National Semiconductor LS/S/TTL Logic Databook - 1987 NEC Microcomputer Products Databook - 1987 NEC Memory Products Databook Volume 1 - 1993 NEC Memory Products Databook Volume 2 - 1993 NEC Microcomputer Division - 1982 Catalog NEC Memory Products Databook - 1989 NEC Microcomputer Products Volume 1 - 1987 Paradigm 1995 Databook Phillips Video, Audio, and Associated Systems Bipolar, MOS - 1991 Phillips Discrete Semiconductors Selector Guide and Cross Reference - 1993 Rockwell Controller Products Databook - 1987 ROHM Video ICs 1995/1996 Databook ROHM Light Emitting Diodes 1995/1996 Databook ROHM Motor Driver ICs 1995/1996 Databook Samsung MOS Memory - 1995 Samsung Graphic Memory Databook - 1996 Signetics TTL Data Manual 1986 Signetics FAST Data Manual - 1987 Standard Microsystems 1988 Components Catalog Texas Instruments Low Power Schottky and Advanced Low Power Schottky Products Oct. 1979 Texas Instruments 1981 Supplement to the TTL Data Book Varian Vacuum Technologies Product Catalog 2000 Xicor Databook - 1985 Xicor Serial I/O Datasheets - 1985 Xicor e2PROMs - 1985 -------------------------------- -jim --- jimw(a)computergarage.org The Computer Garage - http://www.computergarage.org Computer Garage Fax - (503) 646-0174

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Ontopic Drops was OT: The Drop Squad

by CLASSICCMP＠trailing-edge.com

>I believe in using gravity as a tool. There's an interesting article in the Annals of Irreproducible Research where (using a suspect extrapolation!) they calculated how many times you'd have to drop a frozen turkey from an 10-story building to get it fully cooked. IIRC the title was "Cooking with Potential Energy". The text (though not the graphs) seems to be online at http://www.bmsc.udel.edu/niiler/HESC276/PotentialEnergy.txt Tim.

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Tandy 102

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

Well, I finally got something I've wanted ever since I saw the first one in a Radio Shack. The only problem is I get the feeling it doesn't work. Using the powerbrick from my Tandy WP-2 I was able to turn it on, however, unless I adjust the contrast up the screen is blank, well, even when adjusted up, it's blank. Any ideas? Zane | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Adminstrator | | healyzh(a)aracnet.com (primary) | Linux Enthusiast | | healyzh(a)holonet.net (alternate) | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |

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microprocessor reference cards

by ard＠p850ug1.demon.co.uk

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PDP-5 Rescued!

by cmcmanis＠mcmanis.com

This didn't seem to make it out the first time, so here goes a second. I managed to rescue the PDP-5 that I've "owned" for some time now, but it was stuck in a far away city. Anyhoo, I've put up the obligatory pictures at <http://www.mcmanis.com/chuck/computers/pdp5.html> for anyone who cares to take a peek at it. This uses "DEC System Modules" the pre-cursor to the DEC Flip Chip technology. It hasn't been powered on in 15 years so I'll be a bit cautious getting the caps warmed up in the PSU. -15V transistor logic, wild stuff! --Chuck

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Z-80 Pinouts

by mrdos＠swbell.net

Does any body happen to know the pin specifications for a Z-80 microprocessor? Thanks, Owen

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The DEC M9060 board

by cmcmanis＠mcmanis.com

The visual field guide lists it as ??? many other field guides don't list it at all. It was the answer to question I didn't know to ask. Its a friggin' dummy load! If you happen to come across a DEC "skunk box" also know as the BA213 chassis which was home to MicroVAX 3300 - 3900's and some DEC System 5500's, you'll notice it has two power supplies (one on the left and one on the right). I was restoring a MicroVAX 3400 and thought it had a "bad" power supply. As it turned out, without sufficient load these power supplys will not "light up." So to fix that on the 3400 I plugged a Fujitsu SCSI drive (known power hog :-) on to the disk connector and voila, the thing worked. So I've been looking at a couple of 3400's that were used as a cluster and both of them had M9060 boards installed in the last slot. These boards provide sufficent load on the supplies to get them to both turn on. _Very_ handy gizmos. Moral of the story, if you think you have a "bad" BA213 chassis, try loading up the power supply a bit, and if that works, find one of these boards and plug it into the last slot! Another of lifes little mysteries solved. --Chuck

26 years, 2 months

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eBay Auction Links

by Historical＠aol.com

Hello everyone, I know that there are some bad attitudes regarding eBay, but I would like to ask this list's help. I have recently updated my links to specific keywords for eBay auctions and I would ask for anyone who is willing to help me check them and improve them. Also, I currently do not have links for collectible software and I would ask for suggestions. DOS and Windows versions are obvious. I also have just one link each to Haggle and Excite's auctions, I would ask for any auction suggestions too. I hope to make my site a central "jumping off" point for these as well as for computer history related books and recent news and events. Any help is appreciated. Best, http://www.classiccomputing.com/auctions.html David Greelish Publisher Classic Computing Press

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classiccmp-digest V1 #147

by townhome＠compuserve.com

This mailing list has no info on how to get removed. How do I do so? Thanks.

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OT: DDS Tapes

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

Question, can a DDS1 tape be used in a DDS2 drive to test the drive, or am I going to have to go out and spend the $$$'s on a tape to test the drive? Zane | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Adminstrator | | healyzh(a)aracnet.com (primary) | Linux Enthusiast | | healyzh(a)holonet.net (alternate) | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |

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What to use as a substitute for the NCR5380??

by jruschme＠mac.com

It seems like I recall that either AMD or NatSemi still had a compatible part in production. -- John Ruschmeyer jruschme(a)mac.com > Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 21:33:50 -0600 > From: "Richard Erlacher" <edick(a)idcomm.com> > Subject: What to use as a substitute for the NCR5380?? > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > - ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01BFB159.71DEDD60 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Do any of you guys know of a code-compatible substitute for the NCR 5380 = > that's available currently? > > Dick

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RCA Dev System IV another update...

by dogas＠leading.net

The love affair continues. I ran across a great 1802 instruction summary in the RCA workshop that presents the CPU instructions in a matrix format respecting the instruction code's N code sub meaning and have added a scan to my site at: http://users.leading.net/~dogas/classiccmp/cosmac/cosmac.htm ;) - Mike: dogas(a)leading.net

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Z-80 Pinouts

by allisonp＠world.std.com

>At 06:45 PM 4/28/00 -0500, you wrote: >>Does any body happen to know the pin specifications for a Z-80 microprocessor? >> >>Thanks, >>Owen > >Here's the place to be for all things Z-80: > > http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Peaks/3938/z80_home.htm Check the sites mentioned for details. If you need further details we are here to provide additional detail. Allison

26 years, 2 months

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FS/FT: Dectape TU56 parts

by lemay＠cs.umn.edu

I have some DecTape TU56 front panel controls, so if someone has a TU56 with a bad switch or something, let me know and maybe we can make a trade. Also, I might be able to get a set of motors, or even possibly a read/write head, if that is needed. It would take me a couple hours to go back with some tools and extract these parts, so unless someone wants to trade me something for it, i probably wont bother. Someone else has already extracted one of the motors (there are normally 4 total, one behind each of the wheels on the front on the unit). -Lawrence LeMay lemay(a)cs.umn.edu

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Hmmm, VMS again

by CLASSICCMP＠trailing-edge.com

>How was VMS distributed? I've got a blue box that says "OpenVMS" and >contained a "wallet" of CD-ROMS with VMS for Alpha and VMS for VAX. There >is one VAX-VMS Binraries CD and one that is labelled "Layered Products 1 of >1" and the VMS FreeWare 2.0 CD. I'm looking for the C, Fortran, and PASCAL >compilers. But they don't appear to be on either of these disks. Was there >another CD with even more layered products on it? A complete condist (consolidated distribution) for VMS 7.0 is, I believe, 12 disks. If you get the hobbyist CD's through the OpenVMS hobbyist program ( http://www.montagar.com/ ) the "layered product" CD that comes with it is a "best of" from all the condist CD's, carrying what someone thought a hobbyist would be most likely to want. Many of the compilers are there. -- Tim Shoppa Email: shoppa(a)trailing-edge.com Trailing Edge Technology WWW: http://www.trailing-edge.com/ 7328 Bradley Blvd Voice: 301-767-5917 Bethesda, MD, USA 20817 Fax: 301-767-5927

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FS: Mac parts!

by Marion.Bates＠dartmouth.edu

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Misc PC software Available

by cmcmanis＠mcmanis.com

This is the other half, several packages with Disk or CD and docs, are available for $5/each post paid in the USA. Sytos Plus File Backup Manager for DOS (by Sytron) 386/MAX Version 6 by Qualitas (an EMM386 type clone?) Shrink wrapped "Microsoft Online" box. (would make a nice addition to your collectible AOL disk :-) --Chuck

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FS/FT: Novell Developer CD-ROMs

by cmcmanis＠mcmanis.com

I've got a _pile_ of Novell Network developer CD-ROMs. Some claim to be time limited, some are docs, all are from the Novell Developer program and came on a load of stuff that was otherwise unrelated. This is what they say: Novell Directory Service - Developer Jumpstart CD Novell LAN DDK/SDK Novell Software Connection Library 10 " " 11 etc, etc for about 40+ CD ROMs (I suspect some duplicates.) It looks like most of the developer connection series and some IHV beta stuff. Definitely should be archived rather than go to the dumpster or be made into coasters. I'd prefer to trade a couple of Q-bus boards or a PCI SCSI controller (preferably one of the Adaptec ones), if there is any interest at all let me know before next friday. --Chuck

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Hmmm, VMS again

by cmcmanis＠mcmanis.com

How was VMS distributed? I've got a blue box that says "OpenVMS" and contained a "wallet" of CD-ROMS with VMS for Alpha and VMS for VAX. There is one VAX-VMS Binraries CD and one that is labelled "Layered Products 1 of 1" and the VMS FreeWare 2.0 CD. I'm looking for the C, Fortran, and PASCAL compilers. But they don't appear to be on either of these disks. Was there another CD with even more layered products on it? --Chuck

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Ok, so how do I install layered products?

by CLASSICCMP＠trailing-edge.com

>Where to start? (I entered the label that the disk says it has on it (its >printed on the CD as OPENVMSS070LP, but that is rejected as being incorrect) If you think the label printed on the CD is wrong, you can do a MOUNT/OVERRIDE=IDENTIFICATION to figure out what the real disk label is. If you still get an error, show us exactly what command you tried and exactly the error message you got back. Unlike many modern software products, the error messages from VMS *are* actually helpful to figure out what's going wrong! Tim.

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Ok, so how do I install layered products?

by cmcmanis＠mcmanis.com

I know, I know. It must be written down somewhere, but the DOC is on a CD and I don't know how to access it! I have VMS 7.0 installed, and I installed DECWindows. I also told it to be a cluster node and that caused some problems initially. On boot it complained about INCLUDES. For the uninitiated the NO_SHARE option on the hobbiest VMS license means you need one license per CPU, and for that to work you have to type: LICENSE MODIFY/INCLUDE=TNYVAX VAX-VMS before it will work. (TNYVAX was my node name, yours will vary) So its installed, but I would really like to install TCP/IP so that I can open a DECWindow on my remote X server. I think it is on the VMS Layered products disk but when I try to mount it it complains I've gor the wrong label. Where to start? (I entered the label that the disk says it has on it (its printed on the CD as OPENVMSS070LP, but that is rejected as being incorrect) --Chuck

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11/23+ question

by CLASSICCMP＠trailing-edge.com

> I was wondering if anyone had an idea about an 11/23+ I picked up recently. >It's a normal looking 11/23+, but the UART closest to the console connecters >is replaced by a 40 pin socket. The socket has a ribbon cable attached which >goes to a small board (2x3.5 inches) that contains a UART and a couple of >other chips (notebly a dallas ds2010). A DS2010 is a 1024*9 FIFO. > Looking at the socket, it's not a >rework, I believe the board came this way from DEC. The small board has a >part number 010-01135-00 rev b etched on it. I don't see that part number in my indices, but it certainly sounds like it may be a DEC part number. With the FIFO and the UART, it obviously has something to do with buffering either input or output through the serial port. Interesting find! If you look on the board handles, are there any suffixes on the M8189? (Something like "YA" or "YB"?) -- Tim Shoppa Email: shoppa(a)trailing-edge.com Trailing Edge Technology WWW: http://www.trailing-edge.com/ 7328 Bradley Blvd Voice: 301-767-5917 Bethesda, MD, USA 20817 Fax: 301-767-5927

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RCA Dev System IV another update...

by dogas＠leading.net

From: technoid(a)cheta.net <technoid(a)cheta.net> >Excellent. What are the specs on the machine or do you know yet? > I thought I'd start posting some of my notes as I jump into this machine that I'm already beginning to love dearly. This first post covers the COSMAC's features, organization, archetecture and instruction format if anyone is interested: http://users.leading.net/~dogas/classiccmp/cosmac/note1.htm More soon... Please let me know if I misrepresented anything. Cheers - Mike: dogas(a)leading.net

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RCA Dev System IV another update...

by dogas＠leading.net

From: technoid(a)cheta.net <technoid(a)cheta.net> >Excellent. What are the specs on the machine or do you know yet? > I thought I'd start posting some of my notes as I jump into this machine that I'm already beginning to love dearly. This first post covers the COSMAC's features, organization, archetecture and instruction format if anyone is interested: http://users.leading.net/~dogas/classiccmp/cosmac/note1.htm More soon... Please let me know if I misrepresented anything. Cheers - Mike: dogas(a)leading.net

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11/23+ question

by wrking＠tsoft.com

I was wondering if anyone had an idea about an 11/23+ I picked up recently. It's a normal looking 11/23+, but the UART closest to the console connecters is replaced by a 40 pin socket. The socket has a ribbon cable attached which goes to a small board (2x3.5 inches) that contains a UART and a couple of other chips (notebly a dallas ds2010). Looking at the socket, it's not a rework, I believe the board came this way from DEC. The small board has a part number 010-01135-00 rev b etched on it. Thanks, Bill King

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VAX on TV???

by andy.sporner＠networkengines.com

Hi, > I recently saw some top corner of a VAX 4000 in a documentation on TV here, > including some other VAX-related DEC-stuff standing around there. But on the > movies, it seems to be hard to spot a VAX. Perhaps in the German movies, but you can see a room full of 11/725's and 11/750's in a movie called "D.A.R.R.Y.L". Andy

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Fluke DOS

by rigdonj＠intellistar.net

Hi, I picked up a second FLuke 1722 today. This one does have the keyboard (at last)! But I still haven't found the operating system software for it. Can anyone help? It uses Fluke's F-DOS. I'd also like to find a manual for it. The 1722 is an instrument controller. It has a built in touch sensative screen that measures about 5 x 7 inches. It also has one built in RS-232 port and one HP-IB port and it's controlled by a TMS9900 CPU. Joe

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VMS fun, stand backup?

by allisonp＠world.std.com

>Ok, all this has me trying to upgrade to VMS 7.0 since a) I have the Media >kit and b) I'd like to try clustering dissimilar machines. I found a CDROM >drive that can boot the CD, and it boots into standlone backup. What are >the two commands to prepare the local hard drive and then unpack on to it? OK, here comes... Assumptions, DKA700 is the cdrom, DKA200 is the target disk. $ backup/image dka400:VMS070.b/save dka200: when done copying you will be asked if the system is to continue type YES. Then halt the machine. To actually run the install... >>>Boot DKA200 The rest will be obvious. Allison

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IBM 8" Disks - What are they?

by netsurfer_x1＠hotmail.com

>Amongst the things which I saved from the skip I have 4 >IBM 8" floppies, >the labels say: > >MAP ENTRY DISKETTE **M.T.=5412** >P/N=4410338 E.C.=571989 DIAGN.DISK. 1 >-------------------------------------------------------- >CONTENTS, 0D0-FFB-FFF-FD6-143-FC0,DD6,D44, > FC2,DD9,C17-FA0,FA6,FA7 >-------------------------------------------------------- > > > >STAND ALONE DISKETTE **M.T.=5412** >P/N=4247991 E.C.=571931 DIAGN.DISK. 2 >-------------------------------------------------------- >CONTENTS, LDR-FC0,LD5-FA0,E0A > >-------------------------------------------------------- > > >3340 MICRO DIAGNOSTIC DISKETTE **M.T.=5412** >P/N=4247992 E.C.=571989 DIAGN.DISK. 3 > >-------------------------------------------------------- >CONTENTS, C16-FA1-FA2-FA3-FA4-FA5 > >-------------------------------------------------------- > > >3340 DIAGNOSTIC DISKETTE **M.T.=5412** >P/N=4247993 E.C.=571931 DIAGN.DISK. 4 > >-------------------------------------------------------- >CONTENTS, C11,C12,C14,C15,C17-FA0,C18,C19, > C1A,C1B,C1F >-------------------------------------------------------- > >Can anyone tell me what these are and what they were for? > >I realise that they were for diagnostics of some sort >and assume that the >**M.T.=5412** is probably a machine >type, but I am not familiar with IBM's >designation >numbers. > >At the bottom of the label is what I assume is a date in >the format >77/01/05 - if my assumption is correct then >these must be 30 years old. > >-- >Regards >Pete Someting else intresting about those disks: The "CONTENTS" section is actually a *directory*! Many IBM minis & mainframes that used FDD's did not have an FAT on the disk! The result: you had to provide the track & sector location on every disk access! a similar scheme was used in the prototypical (and unreleased) Commodore 900 workstation. ____________________________________________________________ David Vohs, Digital Archaeologist & Computer Historian. Computer Collection: "Triumph": Commodore 64C, 1802, 1541, FSD-1, GeoRAM 512, Okimate 20. "Leela": Macintosh 128 (Plus upgrade), Nova SCSI HDD, Imagewriter II. "Delorean": TI-99/4A. "Monolith": Apple Macintosh Portable. "Spectrum": Tandy Color Computer 3. "Boombox": Sharp PC-7000. ____________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

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VAX 4000/VLC drive bracket?

by cmcmanis＠mcmanis.com

One of my VLC's is sans drive and I noticed that the bracket is different >from the one that M3100 uses. Does anyone have a spare? If so tell me what you'd like for it. BTW, Thanks Zane, I got VMS installing. I don't know what changed between 7.0 and 7.2 but I do know that 7.0 is going to be more complete than 5.2 :-). --Chuck

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OT: The Drop Squad

by kyrrin＠bluefeathertech.com

Ok... I'm sorry, but this is just too darned funny! www.dropsquad.com Trust me. Ok? Don't ask, just type it in. Keep the peace(es). -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner and head honcho, Blue Feather Technologies http://www.bluefeathertech.com // E-mail: kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com Amateur Radio: WD6EOS since Dec. '77 "Our science can only describe an object, event, or living thing in our own human terms. It cannot, in any way, define any of them..."

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Of course... a few more VMS questions... ;-)

by CLASSICCMP＠trailing-edge.com

>And one other question which I've not found or figured out myself... How do >I get a directory listing of *just the subdirectories*? I've figured out >how to search for a particular filename or extension recursively thru the >subdirectories, but what's the VMS equivalent to DOS's dir /ad or linux's >ls -lAF|grep '/$' ??? If you want to see the names of the directories, do DIR *.DIR Note that it's possible for a "regular" file to have a .DIR extension; if you want to tell the difference do a DIR/FULL one it and look to see if the "is a directory" attribute is on. If you want to see what's in the subdirectories, do DIR [.*] If you want to see what's in the subdirectories, and the directories below them, usw., do DIR [...] (The above gives you what's in your current directory too. Do a DIR [.*...] to see only what's below.) See, isn't that sweet? No funny flags to pass, nicely useful wildcarding, both signs of a truly CUSPy utility. Tim.

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VAX on TV???

by wilson＠dbit.dbit.com

Did anyone else see this? Last night's episode of Just Shoot Me on NBC had a scene (watching surveillance tapes with a security guard) with what looked to me like a 780ish VAX in the background. Not like I would know, I don't get to see a lot of VAXes, but it was huge and featureless with a blue stripe across the top of the cabs. And what looked like some kind of top-loader on the left-hand side. Could be wrong, but I got a nice warm feeling anyway. I would expect to see this kind of thing showing up when the script says "cramped room with electronic equipment in background" ten years ago, but now? John Wilson D Bit

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What to use as a substitute for the NCR5380??

by edick＠idcomm.com

Do any of you guys know of a code-compatible substitute for the NCR 5380 that's available currently? Dick

26 years, 2 months

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AOL Disks Collectable - why not?

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 4/27/00 10:22:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time, kstumpf(a)unusual.on.ca writes: > Why not collect AOL memorabilia? The definition of a collectible (ideally) > is something that wasn't made to be collected, but through circumstance > began to appeal to people and people started collecting them. > > One man's treasure is another man's trash. You must admit those little > diskette packages were distinctive, ingenious packaging, and there were > many, many versions. These are good grounds for becoming a collectible. > > While they are not my cup'o tea, I hope those that can perhaps only collect > them, instead of systems, have fun. hmmm, i still have the apple version and pc version 1.5 still in their packages... hey, i betcha my aol version 2.5 beta tester coffee cup would bring in thousands of dollars! DB Young ICQ: 29427634 view the computers of yesteryear at http://members.aol.com/suprdave/classiccmp/museum.htm --You can lead a whore to Vassar, but you can't make her think--

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IBM 8" Disks - What are they?

by peter＠joules0.demon.co.uk

Amongst the things which I saved from the skip I have 4 IBM 8" floppies, the labels say: MAP ENTRY DISKETTE **M.T.=5412** P/N=4410338 E.C.=571989 DIAGN.DISK. 1 -------------------------------------------------------- CONTENTS, 0D0-FFB-FFF-FD6-143-FC0,DD6,D44, FC2,DD9,C17-FA0,FA6,FA7 -------------------------------------------------------- STAND ALONE DISKETTE **M.T.=5412** P/N=4247991 E.C.=571931 DIAGN.DISK. 2 -------------------------------------------------------- CONTENTS, LDR-FC0,LD5-FA0,E0A -------------------------------------------------------- 3340 MICRO DIAGNOSTIC DISKETTE **M.T.=5412** P/N=4247992 E.C.=571989 DIAGN.DISK. 3 -------------------------------------------------------- CONTENTS, C16-FA1-FA2-FA3-FA4-FA5 -------------------------------------------------------- 3340 DIAGNOSTIC DISKETTE **M.T.=5412** P/N=4247993 E.C.=571931 DIAGN.DISK. 4 -------------------------------------------------------- CONTENTS, C11,C12,C14,C15,C17-FA0,C18,C19, C1A,C1B,C1F -------------------------------------------------------- Can anyone tell me what these are and what they were for? I realise that they were for diagnostics of some sort and assume that the **M.T.=5412** is probably a machine type, but I am not familiar with IBM's designation numbers. At the bottom of the label is what I assume is a date in the format 77/01/05 - if my assumption is correct then these must be 30 years old. -- Regards Pete

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PKZips Phil Katz dead

by Glenatacme＠aol.com

<< > he wrote PKZIP, and within a year ARC was no longer the defacto standard for > BBS's. I believe the company that wrote ARC is now extinct. Serves them right. >> Hmm . . . I'm not sure I understand this point of view. Katz _stole_ the algorithm from ARC -- why shouldn't they sue? I was using ARC and PKZIP extensively back in '88-'89 and IIRC Katz reverse-engineered the ARC code in order to make his product work. If this happened to me I would lose my sense of humor very quickly . . . Glen 0/0

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IBM 8" Disks - What are they?

by CLASSICCMP＠trailing-edge.com

>3340 MICRO DIAGNOSTIC DISKETTE **M.T.=5412** > >3340 DIAGNOSTIC DISKETTE **M.T.=5412** > >Can anyone tell me what these are and what they were for? I don't know about the others, but the IBM 3340 was the *original* Winchester drive. (Not "a" Winchester, but *The* Winchester.) >At the bottom of the label is what I assume is a date in the format >77/01/05 - if my assumption is correct then these must be 30 years old. The 3340 was rolled out in 1973, but they certainly were still in service in 1977, so that's consistent. I'm sure the floppies are still readable; I've read many 8" IBM 3740 floppies form the early 70's without a problem. -- Tim Shoppa Email: shoppa(a)trailing-edge.com Trailing Edge Technology WWW: http://www.trailing-edge.com/ 7328 Bradley Blvd Voice: 301-767-5917 Bethesda, MD, USA 20817 Fax: 301-767-5927

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Of course... a few more VMS questions... ;-)

by CLASSICCMP＠trailing-edge.com

>$ unzip :== $$2$dka500:[bin]unzip.exe >$ xfig == "@$2$DKA500:[BIN.XFIG32]XFIG.COM" >$ mxrn :== $$2$dka500:[bin]mxrn Actually, you might want to do a HELP DEFINE and learn how to set up logicals. Hard-coded device names scattered throughout a bunch of command files are a pain in the rear when you later move stuff between disks or consolidate disks. Wouldn't you rather say DISK$BIN: than $$2$dka500: ? On a small system the advantage may not be so obvious, but when you've got a medium-sized VMScluster (a couple dozen CPU's, a few hundred disks), especially with a mix of Alpha and VAX CPU's, it really pays off. -- Tim Shoppa Email: shoppa(a)trailing-edge.com Trailing Edge Technology WWW: http://www.trailing-edge.com/ 7328 Bradley Blvd Voice: 301-767-5917 Bethesda, MD, USA 20817 Fax: 301-767-5927

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