From: David Williams <dlw(a)trailingedge.com>
Ok, I'll have to start searching and see what I can come up with.
BTW, didn't someone say that I couldn't format the RD54s on
here? Or maybe my mind is slipping. What other issue such as
this might I encounter with the different setups?
mostly correct. if you need to format a RD54 or a RD54 like drive
you need either software that is hard to find or a far cheaper solution
another small( 0.5cuFt) Microvax2000. Those can be found for
near nothing to free if there is no disks installed and the firmware
can format disks. FYI if it has 8mb or more of ram it will run VMS
very nicely using a smaller disk for swaping and the eithernet
for remote boot and system.
Allison
From: David Williams <dlw(a)trailingedge.com>
On 2 Jul 2000, at 16:09, Chuck McManis wrote:
> tapes and disks used different protocols (TMSCP vs MSCP). A Viking QTD
> from a DEC Reseller will set you back anywhere from $250 - $800. A
> nicer CMD controller like the one Allison recommended I've seen listed
> for $2000! Contrast that to an ESDI controller that you can usually
> find for $30 - $50.
Wow! Ok, I really want to run VMS but not $2000 enough. Well I
sometimes have some pretty good luck, maybe I'll find one
If you don't your not looking. I got mine for free. The 2000 number
is obviously a price for a new part.
don't forget there is also EDSI and the DEC RQDX3. Of those two
the RQDX3 is generally very cheap and usually free. Drives can
be a problem as the RD54s are the hot item, but they are found.
Allison
From: David Williams <dlw(a)trailingedge.com>
It looks to me like the controller is going to be the more difficult to
locate. I have a box of old unknown boards, some are DEC, I'll
have to sort through and see if I have anything of use (either in my
system or for trading) in there. Does anyone have any good
sources for controllers and/or the drives online? Any suggestions
on average costs?
Ok, SCSI controllers are easy to find just not cheap.
RXDX3 controllers for MFM disks (RD54 and friends)
are fairly common and cheap.
EDSI contrllers are less common but the drives are fairly cheap.
It's the easiest thing to solve in VAXland.
Allison
On 2 Jul 2000, at 7:57, allisonp wrote:
> From: Chuck McManis <cmcmanis(a)mcmanis.com>
> >I'd recommend a nice ESDI controller (Dilog 696-20 or RQ11D/E
> >(Webster/Sigma/etc) If you can find a RRD-40 interface (CD-ROM) that
> would
> >be good to since VMS from CD is easier to load than VMS from TK50
> (having
> >done both recently I really recommend CD). If you can find (good
> >luck!)
> a
> >SCSI controller for it then your options are pretty much wide open.
> >BTW
> VMS
> >lives very nicely on a 500 - 600MB disk with lots of layered
> >products.
>
>
>
> Chuck, a SCSI board with one good drive and a CDrom would be likely a
> better choice depeding on what can be found. I used this combo
> CMD200, RZ56 and toshiba Cdrom.
>
> Allison
>
>
-----
David Williams - Computer Packrat
dlw(a)trailingedge.com
http://www.trailingedge.com
Contact me off list. I have several ESDI controllers that I have been
saving for the hobby users. WQESD, Dilog DQ696, etc. I even have some
drives to go with them.
The cheapest you will find for decent SCSI controllers are the CMD CQD220/TM
(Disk and Tape). I find them on the wholesale side but the min. I have paid
is $500. I typically pay $550 to $650 each even in quantity's of 10+.
Normal end user prices I have seen are $735 to $1200.
Keep your eyes open for Emulex UC07 and UC08. With late versions of the
firmware they work nicely with CD's.
The Vikings are solid but rather slow but will talk to CD's also with late
firmware.
Dan
-----Original Message-----
From: David Williams <dlw(a)trailingedge.com>
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Date: Sunday, July 02, 2000 6:40 PM
Subject: Re: Reviving a MicroVAX II
It looks to me like the controller is going to be the more difficult to
locate. I have a box of old unknown boards, some are DEC, I'll
have to sort through and see if I have anything of use (either in my
system or for trading) in there. Does anyone have any good
sources for controllers and/or the drives online? Any suggestions
on average costs?
Thanks.
On 2 Jul 2000, at 7:57, allisonp wrote:
> From: Chuck McManis <cmcmanis(a)mcmanis.com>
> >I'd recommend a nice ESDI controller (Dilog 696-20 or RQ11D/E
> >(Webster/Sigma/etc) If you can find a RRD-40 interface (CD-ROM) that
> would
> >be good to since VMS from CD is easier to load than VMS from TK50
> (having
> >done both recently I really recommend CD). If you can find (good
> >luck!)
> a
> >SCSI controller for it then your options are pretty much wide open.
> >BTW
> VMS
> >lives very nicely on a 500 - 600MB disk with lots of layered
> >products.
>
>
>
> Chuck, a SCSI board with one good drive and a CDrom would be likely a
> better choice depeding on what can be found. I used this combo
> CMD200, RZ56 and toshiba Cdrom.
>
> Allison
>
>
-----
David Williams - Computer Packrat
dlw(a)trailingedge.com
http://www.trailingedge.com
From: Chuck McManis <cmcmanis(a)mcmanis.com>
>I'd recommend a nice ESDI controller (Dilog 696-20 or RQ11D/E
>(Webster/Sigma/etc) If you can find a RRD-40 interface (CD-ROM) that
would
>be good to since VMS from CD is easier to load than VMS from TK50
(having
>done both recently I really recommend CD). If you can find (good luck!)
a
>SCSI controller for it then your options are pretty much wide open. BTW
VMS
>lives very nicely on a 500 - 600MB disk with lots of layered products.
Chuck, a SCSI board with one good drive and a CDrom would be likely a
better
choice depeding on what can be found. I used this combo CMD200, RZ56
and toshiba Cdrom.
Allison
Ed,
Did you use the /VE option with DSC?
If you can, use BRU to copy a disk. I never had any problems with disks
copied with BRU.
A possiblility that you could not boot, could be that DU2: is not generated
into your RSX11M+.
Wim
----------
> From: wanderer <wanderer(a)bos.nl>
> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
> Subject: Duplicating an RSX-11M+ system disk.
> Date: Sunday, July 02, 2000 8:06 AM
>
> Hello All,
>
> I have a bit of a weird problem, I'm trying to make a 2nd bootable
> system disk containig RSX-11M+.
>
> I have an 11/83 with 2 RD53's and 1 RD54, and the system is on one
> of the RD53's. I booted [6,54]brusys.sys and then used DSC to copy
> the contents to the 2nd RD53. DSC did not report any error.
> Then when trying to boot du2 (the 2nd RD53), nothing happens besides
> a number of retries to access the boot information.
>
> DSC is supposed to copy the boot information as well as the data,
> so I'm wondering what I do wrong.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ed
>
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I finally unburied a whole shipload of PALs I bought many years ago, and
started to sort them. I have a few National Semiconductor types called
20C1s. What is the organization of these? Apparently not a popular item,
as I found little information on the web.
William Donzelli
aw288(a)osfn.org
Hi,
[Apologies if this has already been mentioned, I'm a bit behind with my
email.]
On Wed, 21 Jun 2000 Tony Duell wrote:
> > I have a copy of the AMD 2900 databook, which I might try to scan in
> > somewhere (I can photocopy sections out for John if he needs them right
> > away); someone also recently provided me with a scanned version of the
> > Am2901 datasheet, which I can share.
> >
> > You're on your own for a copy of Mick and Brick - it's copyrighted, so I
>
> Well, the 2900 databook is copyrighted as well... Most companies don't seem
> to mind people copying their data sheets (after all, it sells their
> chips!), but it doesn't mean you can scan an post a copy of the databook
> without checking first.
None of the companies concerned is likely to care at all. Though actually
getting many to say so officially might not be easy.
On Fri, 23 Jun 2000 Pat Barron wrote:
> Well, I corresponded with some folks at AMD, and didn't quite get
> everything I wanted, but this might help somebody.
>
> They have approved me making up to 10 copies of the Am2900 databook. My
> plan is to scan it in and turn it into a PDF file. Therefore, I can only
> make copies available to 10 people.
>
> ...
>
> If substantially more than 10 people are interested, I'll go back to them
> and request further permission, but this was all they felt they could let
> me do without running my request through legal review.
There is no need to do this, because 2900 data books/sheets by various
companies including AMD are already available in scanned format (PDF files)
online.
Go to http://www.freetradezone.com/
After registering you can use the Design Center section to browse and download
data sheets and data books for many kinds of current and discontinued devices
(including 2900 series from several manufacturers). They even have some data
books from the 1970s online.
Just enter 2900 or 2901 or whatever in the part number box and click the
search button.
That site is probably a good first place to look if you are after the data
sheet for any discontinued device.
-- Mark
From: Richard Erlacher <richard(a)idcomm.com>
>Look around your lab or work area at home . . . how many of your
homebuilt
>bits of apparatus have "real" legends or printed labels for all the
knobs
>and switches? How many of your projects end up in a box that's screwed
>shut? That's where the truth of the matter lies. Everybody has built a
>thingie or two that never gets past the wirewrap board even though it's
been
>used occasionally for 10-20 years. It often starts out as an immediate
>need, but ends up as a tool.
It's one habit I try to avoid and as a result I do have some boxes that
are
in one case 35 years old, labled, docs and all. At that age I'd have to
have been a child prodigy to be a PHD. I build tools for myself, a few
are
hand wired some wirewrap but neither are a bad thing only an idication of
cost to do a decent 2 or 4 layer board was out of reach. Then again
sloppy
work doesn't last. Call it a do it once and do it right mindset.
Now cabinetry, that eluded me for years how to get truly good looking
boxen
not made of wood with some metal.
>I like my tools "finished", i.e. in a sealed box with external knobs
that
>don't require a screwdriver to operate them. I like to be able to use
them
Drills sharp, wrenches clean and all that are part of completing a
project
as well.
>but that's just what they are: unfinished. If I build a tool to
completion,
>you can bet there's documentation. . . particularly for revisions, and
the
It was documentation, in depth that got me a lot of advanced credit. I
was
designing from the ground up by HS. The information and techniques are
not secret, or hard to learn.
The idea that a PHD is required to do something useful is bogus. It
reeks
of classism and ignores those that out there doing it on far less save
for
one skill not discussed, ability to learn for ones self and apply it to
other
technologies.
>I'm sure there are both types, but my experience has been that the PhD
types
>are often working far outside their own discipline but are able to
handle
>the job because of their experience and training. They understand how
I"ve found that there are many hacks out there too, fond of building
Rube Golbergian crap.
Allison
>in getting it up and running. I want to run VMS on this, not
interested in the version of BSD out there, already have enough
Unix boxen. The main thing I'm missing, besides getting VMS
itself are drives. This system is in the BA123 enclosure and has a
TK50 tape drive. It contains the following boards:
M7606-AC CPU
M7608-BP Memory
M7608-BP Memory
M7546 Tape controller (TK50)
M7516 DELQA (eithernet)
M7516 DELQA (eithernet)... machine was likely used as a router.
M3104 16port serial
M9058 Disk breakout board (used for going from RQDX3
controller to MFMdisks and floppies)
>What all drive options are there and what would people
recommend? What are my options for getting VMS for this? Any
other help or comments appreciated.
Ok, what you need is either a RQDX3 (M7555 hard disk controller board
and a few RD54s or a SCSI card like the CMD200 and RZ56(680mb).
The problem is SCSI controllers generally don't go cheap. Ideally to run
VMS7.2 you need 300mb of disk(s) however smaller is possible.
The SCSI board is convenient as it will allow for a CDrom needed to
install from hobbiest CD. Other wise RRD40 and controller will be needed
or someone that can cut TK50s from the CD.
There is a hobbiest VMS license and even media available (www.decus.org).
I happen to run one of these and they are fine systems for 1987
technology.
Allison
It's time to start thinking about what you're going to exhibit at VCF 4.0.
The deadline for registration is September 20, 2000.
You can register at:
http://www.vintage.org/exhibit.html
Rules for the exhibit competition can be found at:
http://www.vintage.org/cgi-bin/content.pl?id=r00
Strut your classic computer stuff!!!
Sellam International Man of Intrigue and Danger
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Looking for a six in a pile of nines...
VCF 4.0 is September 30-October 1
San Jose Convention Center, San Jose, California
See http://www.vintage.org for details!
I picked up a MicroVAX II today, thanks Nick, and need some help
in getting it up and running. I want to run VMS on this, not
interested in the version of BSD out there, already have enough
Unix boxen. The main thing I'm missing, besides getting VMS
itself are drives. This system is in the BA123 enclosure and has a
TK50 tape drive. It contains the following boards:
M7606-AC
M7608-BP
M7608-BP
M7546
M7516
M7516
M3104
M9058
What all drive options are there and what would people
recommend? What are my options for getting VMS for this? Any
other help or comments appreciated.
Thanks.
-----
David Williams - Computer Packrat
dlw(a)trailingedge.com
http://www.trailingedge.com
> > Was this the film that established that:
> >
> > 1) electrons are blue
> > 2) protons are red
> > 3) neutrons are green
> >
>
> Surely a glance at just about any 'scope screen, or indeed the IBM 5151
> monitor I'm using a the moment, would convince you that electrons are, in
> fact, green. After all, they leave a green image on the screen.
>
> QED
Hmm... then what subatomic particle does my amber-tubed Wyse 50 use?
I do happen to know it's *not* a plasma display... ;-)
Speaking of which: anybody know where I could find an old Plato terminal?
-dq
> From: "FBA" <fauradon(a)mn.mediaone.net>
> To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 9:07 AM
> Subject: Time spent Looking VS time spent "Playing"
>
>
> > How much time do you devote searching for old machines?
>
Quite a bit, bot "old machines" per se, but classic computng related materials.
> > How much time "Playing" (fixing, using etc...) these machines?
>
> I've been trying to fit in more time playing with the C128. How many hours
> a week, I can't precisely say. But I probably spend as much time playing
> per week as I do looking, if not more....
This last year has been pretty miserable for me, my BBS (runs on a
Commodore 64, which is my most active "classic activity") was literally
down for months and ignored for a year. Tax return time did bring it
back to life with a high speed modem and 20mghz accellerator, but it is
still in need of programmatic overhaul to use the accellerator and my
network feeds aree still stranded in Washington... :P Also my (classic
computing) web pages needs updating (usually reserved for holidays but I
will have to wait on that too).
But I have collected lots of stuff to play with later (how many of us
say that and know we have too much "stuff" and not enough "later"...) I
hope in august to have available time to put more life into my classics...
I must protest on the concentration of the aquiring of computers, I have
had time to divide up my hobby into several categories (where the
"collecting computers" bit is actually kinda small):
Collecting
Computers
Hardware (peripherals, etc)
Software
Computer Books and Magazines
Computing Ephemera (ads, reciepts, pins, t-shirts, games, toys, etc.)
Researching
(see books, magazines, above...)
Reading Technical Information via Internet
Contacting People related to classic computing
Documenting
Web Pages
Articles
Presentations
Promoting
Posting/responding in newsgroups, Maillists (like this one)
Also web Ppge
Running a Classic BBS or Classic Display
Rambling on about how bad off the world is without good computer
education in schools...
(as in usage, programming, electonics, not just CAI)
From: Eric Smith <eric(a)brouhaha.com>
>Tony wrote:
>> Surely a glance at just about any 'scope screen, or indeed the IBM
5151
>> monitor I'm using a the moment, would convince you that electrons are,
in
>> fact, green. After all, they leave a green image on the screen.
>>
>> QED
>
>Sorry to burst your bubble, but that proves that electrons are purple!
Only if they are very bright and you stare at them. ;)
Besides all this electrons and holes stuff is bull. Anyone who has
worked
with electrical or electronics knows smoke is the powering force. The
proof
is when the smoke escapes, equipment stops working. ;)
Allison
>From what I recall, it actually got pretty close until someone stood up to
>point out the stupidity of it all, whence it quickly died.
I'm sorry, I guess I've been living in an alternate reality... since
when did anyone getting up in congress/senate/whatever beauracratic
organization you want to name and stating the stupidity of something
ever *reliably* prevent it from passing?
Megan Gentry
Former RT-11 Developer
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> On Sat, 1 Jul 2000, Douglas Quebbeman wrote:
> [someone srote about carbon tetrachloride:]
> > > Secret stash. Radio Shack dumped their cleaner/degreaser
> stock and I
> > bought
> > > it (at least from one store) I've been metering it out ever since.
> >
> > <Doug, his face green with envy>
>
> Not sure if this is still the case, but, while the sale of it was
> prohibited to individuals, companies could still buy it from
> mail-order electronics supply places. To get it all one need(ed)(s)
> is/was to manufacture a company name (e.g., like one does to get into
> an electronics trade show and get those free pit-beef sandwitches,
> etc. along with lots of freebies like samples and databooks), or, if
> they want a federal ID number, just start a corporation and do nothing
> with it but use it to make it easier to buy things from the bizdroids
> that don't like to sell to individuals. :-) :-) :-)
>
> There's more than one way to skin a bureaucrat!
Well, until they recently came up with a replacement for Halon,
you could still go to a local small airport/air park and buy
Halon extinguishers "for your plane".
:-)
> Have they released new vesrions of the Eddy Electron film, so that it
> now covers ethernet networking and proper network cabling? If not,
> I'd be inclined to suspect that this and other newer information
> hasn't been well enough proven to warrant the creation of a new movie.
> After all, we know that the Eddy Electron film is the one true source
> of authoritative introductory information about what electrons do,
> right? Everyone here did see this classic in their 10th grade
> high-school (or whatever the equivalent of the first year of high
> school is in other countries) electronics class, right? ;-)
Was this the film that established that:
1) electrons are blue
2) protons are red
3) neutrons are green
???
> That's funny; I got my PhD out of showing other engineers
> and economists that the "simplifying assumptions" that they
> make when designing deregulated electric power markets _in the
> real world_ are, well, too simplistic. Electrons cannot be
> bribed to obey economics rather than Kirchhoff, period.
> Yet, that seems to be a hard point to sell to politicians
> and economists.
Hoosier politicians have particular trouble understanding
that some things are simply beyond their control; at some
time (during the 1840s IIRC), a Hoosier legislator proposed
a bill to change the value of Pi to 3.0 since that would
make all calcultations involving Pi more easy to perform.
I'm really surprised it that it failed to pass...
-dq
> At 09:53 AM 7/1/00 -0400, you wrote:
> >Chuck-
> >
> >WHERE are you able to find carbon tetrachloride? I thought it had
> >been banned, and I haven't been able to find it for years.
>
>
> Secret stash. Radio Shack dumped their cleaner/degreaser stock and I
bought
> it (at least from one store) I've been metering it out ever since.
<Doug, his face green with envy>
On Jun 30, 11:11, John Honniball wrote:
>
> On Thu, 29 Jun 2000 12:54:54 -0700 Mike Ford
> <mikeford(a)socal.rr.com> wrote:
> > Generally a couple good outlets (AC and 10bt)
>
> Do you mean 10-base-T? Telephone wire?
>
> Surely not! Any proper machine room needs lots of thick
> yellow EtherHose and vampire taps! :-)
The new cables and fittings in mine are a mixture of Cat 5e and Cat 6, but
I'm keeping the proper yellow stuff and the blue drops. I suspect the
microVax would be offended otherwise :-)
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Dept. of Computer Science
University of York
> Exact-a-mundo! I took it apart and cleaned out the switch (combination of
> carbon-tet and compressed air) and voila! It works again. Thanks Bill!
Chuck-
WHERE are you able to find carbon tetrachloride? I thought it had
been banned, and I haven't been able to find it for years.
Really need some, too, to deglaze some rubber...
-dq
I'd like a detached small building with the following.
1. a raised tile floor,
2. anachoic tile on the walls and ceiling, kind of like egg shell foam which
absorbs noise.
3. 4 plex power boxes under every other tile
4. Non fluorescent lighting
5. air-conditioning through the floor
6. 1 window overlooking the lake
7. Separate shop area
8. Separate storage area with steel shelves accessible from front and back
9. Loading dock area
10. workbench with power strip along entire front edge
11. Small van to haul/pickup stuff
When I was growing up on the farm we had outbuildings for everything.
Chicken coop, granery, tool shed, pump house, shop, garage, dog house, and a
barn. Seemed to keep stuff located somewhat together.
Mike
Dreaming not working
mmcfadden(a)cmh.edu
I've gotten interested in the Tektronix 4041 system controllers. Does
anyone have one that they might be willing to sell or will trade for other
vintage computer stuff? I'm especially looking for the detachable keyboard
for the 4041. I'm also intersted in swapping information with anyone about
the 4041. Contact me directly.
Joe
Hello -
I pulled 2 IBM 6091 19" monitors out of the trash. I think they were
used on their power pc computers. I need info on this monitor, such
as resolution, refresh rate and what are the white and black bnc
connectors for.
Any help is appreciated.
john
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> > The new cables and fittings in mine are a mixture of Cat 5e and Cat 6,
but
> > I'm keeping the proper yellow stuff and the blue drops. I suspect the
> > microVax would be offended otherwise :-)
>
> It is a well-known fact to all network hardware types that ethernet
> electrons get very confused if forced to go down cable that's
> not yellow ;-)
No, No, No! They fall down the cable quite well, but once they fall
down, they can't get back up!
8D
>Help! The manual (switch settings and the like) for the CMD CQD-440 used to
>be on-line but I can't find it anywhere (Google has let me down, alas)
>
>If someone has the pointer please send it or post it! Thanks,
>--Chuck
IIRC the 420 is a 440 without the differential side populated, Here is the
440 manual save in text from their site, If you the original HTML version I
have it also.
Dan
CMD Technical Support
CQD440/443 Qbus Controller Installation Guide
The QBUS CONTROLLER is an intelligent high performance Q-Bus
single-ended or
differential (sync/async) SCSI Host Adapter with dual SCSI ports. The
QBUS
CONTROLLER is fully compatible with the DEC Mass Storage Control
Protocol
(MSCP) and Tape Mass Storage Control protocol (TMSCP).
The QBUS CONTROLLER can be used with the LSI-11/23, PDP-11/23+,
Micro-PDP-11/53, 11/73, 11/83, 11/93, MicroVAX II, and MicroVAX III, VAX
4000 and DECsystem 5400 systems. It supports RT-11, TSX, DSM-11, ISM-11,
RSX, RSTS, VMS, UNIX, ULTRIX, and other operating systems which use
DU/TU
drivers.
Models:
CQD-440/TM Disk and Tape (P44010A in U79 and P44009A in U93)
CQD-440/TMP Disk/Tape with Passthru (P44010A in U79 and P44009A in U93)
CQD-440/TMS Disk/Tape with Hardware Shadowing
(P44010A in U79 and P44009A in U93)
CQD-443 has the MicroVAX-3 metal mounting bracket, otherwise is the same
board.
Board Size Quad Wide Q-bus
Emulation MSCP (DU driver) / TMSCP (TU driver)
Bus Interface Standard MicroVAX or LSI-11 Q-bus
Addressing 18- or 22-bit Addressing
Interrupt Priority Level 4 or 5
Interrupt Vector Software programmable
Transfer Mode Normal or block mode DMA
Command Queuing Commands with optimized seek
Data Buffer Capacity Virtual data buffer (infinite size)
Bootstrap Auto bootstrap or utility bootstrap
Defect Management Dynamic defect management
Software Supported All standard DEC operating systems
Multiple-Hosting Support multiple-hosting for disks, optical drives
and tapes.
Formatting On board format and bad block replacement
(ISO standard for optical erasable disk format)
Partitioning 2 or 4 equally divided partitions for disk drives
Shadowing Any two disk drives of equal size on the bus can
form a shadow set (for /TMS version only)
Optional Software Tape Monitor Utility (TMU)
SCSIformat ON-LINE (FMT)
SCSI Library Manager (SLM for /TMJ only)
LED Indicators Self test, error conditions
Peripheral Interface Single Ended SCSI
SCSI Transfer Rate: 10.0-MB/sec in Sync 7.0-MB/sec in Async
SCSI Bus Parity Odd parity
Devices Supported 7 SCSI devices disk or tape
System Performance disconnect/reconnect, multiple-host
SCSI Cable Length Single ended, up to 20-feet (6-meters), Single-ended
fast up to 9 Feet and Differential narrow up to
82 feet
Operating Temperature 5 to 50 degrees C
Relative Humidity 10% to 90% , Non-condensing
Power 5V DC 2.0 A
Selecting CSR Address
Before you install the QBUS SCSI host adapter under the VMS, Ultrix or
Unix
operating system you must select the Control and Status Register (CSR)
address. If /T(tape only), then the appropiate tape csr is required. If
/M(disk only), then the appropiate disk csr must be selected. If the
dual
function /TM controller is enabled so that both disk and tape are
supported,
two CSR addresses are required, one for disk and the other for tape. If
/TM
is being used as a tape only or disk only, then select the single
appropiate
CSR. Click here for help in CSR Address selection.
RS232 CABLE CONNECTION
HARDWARE SHADOW OPTION
ON-LINE FORMAT OR TAPE MONITOR UTILITY
DUALHOSTING FOR SCSI CLUSTERING
QUICK SWITCH SETTINGS
Host Adapter Switch and Jumper Selections
Host Adapter ID Selections
SW2-1 SW2-2 SW2-3 Initiator ID
ON ON ON Host adapter ID=7, highest priority (F)
ON ON OFF Host adapter ID=6
ON OFF ON Host adapter ID=5
ON OFF OFF Host adapter ID=4
OFF ON ON Host adapter ID=3
OFF ON OFF Host adapter ID=2
OFF OFF ON Host adapter ID=1
OFF OFF OFF Host adapter ID=0, lowest priority
Note (F) means factory setting.
Switch Settings
SW2-4 ON Enable tape fast search option
SW2-4 OFF Normal operation (F)
SW2-5 ON Tape Monitor Utility enabled (/T, /TM)
Disk SCSIformat ON-LINE enabled (/M, /TM)
SW2-5 OFF Tape Monitor Utility disabled (F)
Disk SCSIformat ON-LINE disabled (F)
SW2-6 ON Tape sync mode disabled
SW2-6 OFF Tape sync mode enabled (F)
SW2-7 ON Disk sync mode disabled
SW2-7 OFF Disk sync mode enabled (F)
SW2-8 OFF Reserved (F)
SW2-9 OFF Reserved (F)
SW2-10 OFF Reserved (F)
CQD-440 Pin Assignments
W1 IN Differential SCSI terminator power enabled (F)
W1 OUT Differential SCSI terminator power disabled
W2 1-2 IN Single-ended Active Termination (F)
W2 2-3 IN Single-ended Passive Termination
W3 1-2 IN Reset
W3 2-3 IN NMI (F)
W6 IN Single-ended SCSI terminator power enabled (F)
W6 OUT Single-ended SCSI terminator power disabled
W7 OUT Reserved (F)
W8, W9 IN Single-ended channel enabled (F)
W10 OUT
W11, W12 IN
W13 OUT
W4 & W5 IN
W9, W10 IN Differential channel enabled
W8 OUT
W12, W13 IN
W11 OUT
W4 & W5 OUT
W14 IN Reserved (F)
W15 1-2 IN Reserved (F)
W16-1 OUT 0.8-us DMA dwell time
W16-2 OUT 1.6-us DMA dwell time
W16-3 IN 3.2-us DMA dwell time (F)
W16-4 OUT 6.4-us DMA dwell time
W17 1-2 IN Eprom Size 512-Kbit or 1-Mbit
W17 2-3 IN Eprom Size 256-Kbit
W18 OUT 0 Wait State for Eprom Cycles (F)
W18 IN 1 Wait State for Eprom Cycle
W19-1 OUT Reserved (F)
W19-2 OUT Reserved (F)
W19-3 OUT Reserved (F)
W20 1-2 IN Adaptive DMA enabled (F)
W20 2-3 IN Adaptive DMA disabled
W21 1-2 IN Adaptive DMA Dwell enabled (F)
W21 2-3 IN Adaptive DMA Dwell disabled
W22 1-2 IN Block mode DMA enabled (F)
W22 2-3 IN Block mode DMA disabled
W23 IN Auto-Bootstrap address=773000 (F)
W23 OUT Auto-Bootstrap address=771000
W24 1-2 IN Auto-Bootstrap disabled (F)
W24 2-3 IN Auto-Bootstrap enabled
W25 OUT Reserved (F)
W26 OUT Reserved (F)
W27 OUT Reserved (F)
W28 OUT Reserved (F)
W29 OUT Reserved (F)
W30 OUT Reserved (F)
W31 1-2 Interrupt level 4 (F)
W31 Cut Interrupt level 5--cut connection
between 1-2
W32 1-2 22-Bit addressing (F)
W32 Cut 18-Bit addressing--cut the connection 1-2
Note (F) means factory setting.
CQD-440/TM CSR Addresses (Disk Only)P44009A
Addr LSI-11 Micro VAX SW1-1 SW1-2 SW1-3 SW1-4 SW1-5
1 17772150 200001468 ON ON ON ON ON
2 17760334 200000DC ON ON ON ON OFF
3 17760354 200000EC ON ON ON OFF ON
4 17760374 200000FC ON ON ON OFF OFF
5 17760340 200000E0 ON ON OFF ON ON
6 17760344 200000E4 ON ON OFF ON OFF
7 17760350 200000E8 ON ON OFF OFF ON
8 17760360 200000F0 ON ON OFF OFF OFF
9 17760364 200000F4 ON OFF ON ON ON
10 17760370 200000F8 ON OFF ON ON OFF
11 17760400 20000100 ON OFF ON OFF ON
12 17760404 20000104 ON OFF ON OFF OFF
13 17760410 20000108 ON OFF OFF ON ON
14 17760414 2000010C ON OFF OFF ON OFF
15 17760420 20000110 ON OFF OFF OFF ON
16 17760424 20000114 ON OFF OFF OFF OFF
17 17760430 20000118 OFF ON ON ON ON
18 17760434 2000011C OFF ON ON ON OFF
19 17760440 20000120 OFF ON ON OFF ON
20 17760444 20000124 OFF ON ON OFF OFF
21 17760450 20000128 OFF ON OFF ON ON
22 17760454 2000012C OFF ON OFF ON OFF
23 17760460 20000130 OFF ON OFF OFF ON
24 17760464 20000134 OFF ON OFF OFF OFF
25 17760470 20000138 OFF OFF ON ON ON
26 17760474 2000013C OFF OFF ON ON OFF
27 17760500 20000140 OFF OFF ON OFF ON
28 17760504 20000144 OFF OFF ON OFF OFF
29 17760510 20000148 OFF OFF OFF ON ON
30 17760514 2000014C OFF OFF OFF ON OFF
31 disable disk OFF OFF OFF OFF OFF
CQD-440/TM CSR Address Selections (Tape Only)P44010A
Addr LSI-11 MicroVAX SW1-6 SW1-7 SW1-8 SW1-9 SW1-10
1 17774500 20001940 ON ON ON ON ON
2 17760404 20000104 ON ON ON ON OFF
3 17760444 20000124 ON ON ON OFF ON
4 17760504 20000144 ON ON ON OFF OFF
5 17760544 20000164 ON ON OFF ON ON
6 17760410 20000108 ON ON OFF ON OFF
7 17760450 20000128 ON ON OFF OFF ON
8 17760454 2000012C ON ON OFF OFF OFF
9 17760414 2000010C ON OFF ON ON ON
10 17760420 20000110 ON OFF ON ON OFF
11 17760460 20000130 ON OFF ON OFF ON
12 17760510 20000148 ON OFF ON OFF OFF
13 17760514 2000014C ON OFF OFF ON ON
14 17760520 20000150 ON OFF OFF ON OFF
15 17760550 20000168 ON OFF OFF OFF ON
16 17760554 2000016C ON OFF OFF OFF OFF
17 17760560 20000170 OFF ON ON ON ON
18 17760604 20000184 OFF ON ON ON OFF
19 17760610 20000188 OFF ON ON OFF ON
20 17760614 2000018C OFF ON ON OFF OFF
21 17760620 20000190 OFF ON OFF ON ON
22 17760644 200001A4 OFF ON OFF ON OFF
23 17760650 200001A8 OFF ON OFF OFF ON
24 17760654 200001AC OFF ON OFF OFF OFF
25 17760660 200001B0 OFF OFF ON ON ON
26 17760704 200001C4 OFF OFF ON ON OFF
27 17760710 200001C8 OFF OFF ON OFF ON
28 17760714 200001CC OFF OFF ON OFF OFF
29 17760744 200001E4 OFF OFF OFF ON ON
30 17760750 200001E8 OFF OFF OFF ON OFF
31 17760754 200001EC OFF OFF OFF OFF ON
32 disable tape OFF OFF OFF OFF OFF
On-Board Utility
The Utility can be accessed through the system console or the RS-232
Port on the CQD-440 or CQD-443. The CQD-440 uses a 10-pin RS-232
cable.
The CQD-443 uses the same RS-232 MMJ cable used on the MicroVAX-3.
To access the On-Board Utility through the RS-232 port, plug in the
cable and power-on or Restart the computer. The On-Board Utility
will
display on the screen. Be sure to set the terminal to 9600 baud, 8
bit
data, and no parity.
Accessing the Utility Through the LSI or VAX System
The On-Board Utility Program can be accessed by means of an ODT
command
for LSI and VAX systems.
The above information can be changed without notice.
Rev. Date: A = 04-15-96
Goto top of this page.
Help! The manual (switch settings and the like) for the CMD CQD-440 used to
be on-line but I can't find it anywhere (Google has let me down, alas)
If someone has the pointer please send it or post it! Thanks,
--Chuck
The following is from a PDP11/Mass Spec customer of mine. If anyone has any
ideas for him feel free to contact either of us. I will just forward
anything to him if it gets posted to me or the list.
With a little direction he can run diagnostics and has available an
electronics shop and decent test equipment like scopes. I don't know if
they have things like logic analyzers however. ( I did not need one the one
time I was on site)
It even meets the 10 year rule.:)
Dan
----------------
We have an X-32 computer (CPU/3), a German unix machine from 1989. This
computer operates a Bruker AMX-500 NMR spectrometer. The computer is
functional except that Fourier transform calculations frequently give a
massive "transmitter" spike that is NOT hardware related. Although we
normally do all repairs through Bruker, the director of our facility does
not want to repair this problem because the computer will be replaced
within a year and the instrument is functional. However, for a frequent
user (me), this problem is extremely frustrating and time-consuming. The
problem is almost certainly one of the three following X-32 boards:
CPU board H2297 ECL 12
Memory 16MB H2271 ECL 02
Array Processor H2231 ECL 06
If anyone can help with this problem, please contact me by email.
Thank you.
Bill Wilson
Research Scientist
Bill Wilson billw(a)rice.edu
Rice University, Dept. of Biochemistry MS140
6100 Main St, Houston, TX 77005-1892
http://www.bioc.rice.edu/~billw/
Tel: 713-348-4914 Fax: 713-348-5154
Accidently forwarded to the entire list again.
Sigh...
> ----------
> From: Eros, Anthony
> Reply To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
> Sent: Friday, June 30, 2000 6:12 PM
> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
> Subject: RE: Minivac 601 documentation?
>
> Sellam -
>
> I'm going to be out of town on a family vacation for the next 10 days or
> so.
> I'll drop you a note when I return to see if we can hook up on the Minivac
> doc.
>
> Thanks again!
>
> -- Tony
>
> > ----------
> > From: Sellam Ismail[SMTP:foo@siconic.com]
> > Reply To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 4:31 PM
> > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
> > Subject: Re: Minivac 601 documentation?
> >
> > On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, Eros, Anthony wrote:
> >
> > > Does anyone have any documentation for the Minivac 601? Is there
> > anything
> > > on-line? I bought one via eBay (I thought $41 was a pretty reasonable
> > > price,) but it didn't come with any of the jumpers or books.
> >
> > Yes, you scored. I have all the docs for it but a couple volumes are
> out
> > on loan. Contact me privately so we can work out arrangements for
> > copying.
> >
> > Sellam International Man of Intrigue and
> > Danger
> >
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > -----
> > Looking for a six in a pile of nines...
> >
> > VCF 4.0 is September 30-October 1
> > San Jose Convention Center, San Jose, California
> > See http://www.vintage.org for details!
> >
> >
>
Sellam -
I'm going to be out of town on a family vacation for the next 10 days or so.
I'll drop you a note when I return to see if we can hook up on the Minivac
doc.
Thanks again!
-- Tony
> ----------
> From: Sellam Ismail[SMTP:foo@siconic.com]
> Reply To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
> Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 4:31 PM
> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
> Subject: Re: Minivac 601 documentation?
>
> On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, Eros, Anthony wrote:
>
> > Does anyone have any documentation for the Minivac 601? Is there
> anything
> > on-line? I bought one via eBay (I thought $41 was a pretty reasonable
> > price,) but it didn't come with any of the jumpers or books.
>
> Yes, you scored. I have all the docs for it but a couple volumes are out
> on loan. Contact me privately so we can work out arrangements for
> copying.
>
> Sellam International Man of Intrigue and
> Danger
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -----
> Looking for a six in a pile of nines...
>
> VCF 4.0 is September 30-October 1
> San Jose Convention Center, San Jose, California
> See http://www.vintage.org for details!
>
>
Chuck,
Does this have a switch to select between AUI and 10-Base-2? I've
recently repaired two systems where the switch was dirty and didn't make
a good electrical connection. The symptoms were that the AUI port
received, but wouldn't transmit. Maybe that's the problem.
Bill
> >about going back to pick up a PhD, but each time, I could not answer the
> >question "why". With what *I* enjoy doing, having the advanced degree
would
> >merely end up as an expensive hobby/pursuit. Anyone with imagination and
> >motivation will do well regardless of their *formal* education; likewise
> >having a degree without those qualities will probably provide a higher
> >paying job but not much more.
>
> I love pointing out to employers that the primary skill of a Phd is the
> ability to stretch a simple project out to two years, and make it "seem"
> reasonable to the boss.
My first embedded systems project (the Olicon MVP-035 Radiographic Viewer)
had a PhD in C.S. working for six months on the project- all he had to
show at the end of it was flowcharts. In six weeks the engineer and I
had an operational prototype (needless to say we ditched his flowcharts).
-dq
> One nice way of doing things is to have the boxes tethered to armored
> flexible conduit (not BX, but sort of a plastic coated Greenfield), so
> the box can move to the machine, and not the other way around. It is
> quite legal.
>
> RCS/RI is installing dual voltage locking receptacles (L14-30Rs), so that
> most machines can be plugged in anywhere. Damn expensive, though.
Bill, make sure you include tidbits like these in the museum how-to.
-doug q, who's running the Prime from a custom 30-amp 5-20R quad terminated
extension cord
In my IBM experience, I can personally confirm the existence of the
following colors:
Black (The modern standard)
Blue (I have a 3262 line printer this color)
Gray/grey <- this is what I think is the standard color, though the standard
color depends on what line of machines we're talking about.. (My S/36
(5360), both 8100's (8140 and 8150), both 8809 MTD's, and all of my 8101 and
8102 disk drives are this color.
Red (I've seen a 3380 this color)
Yellow (I have a 3262 line printer in this color, yuck-o)
I'm not saying that there might not be other colors, I'm just confirming
that these colors do exist.
Will J
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Without getting the entire "Preserve vs. Restore" argument
started again, has anyone ever found a way to restore the
original beige color to plastic skins that have discolored
due to long exposure to UV?
I'm assuming what's happening is more than just the lighter
elements of the plastic evaporating, but rather that some
kind of chemical change is taking place that likely can't
be reversed.
I would think paint to not be a solution; at least not for
me, as it always takes better hand/eye coordination than I
can manage.
How about dyes? Has anyone tried some kind of analine dye
to restore beige plastic? Dyes spread more evenly and I
think can even penetrate perhaps a few microns.
thanks,
-doug quebbeman
> Gray/grey <- this is what I think is the standard color,
My Model 711 Card Reader and Model 716 Line Printer (my
first foolish acquisitions, gotten in the 70's and mostly
disposed of in the 80's) were gray as you say.
-dq
> > IIRC, the Victor 9000 was designed by Chuck Peddle, the
> > architect of the 6502 (or maybe it was the 6500) processor.
> > This might account for the Motorola/Mostek chip usage.
>
> Mostek? Where does Mostek come into it?
>
> Perhaps you're thinking of MOS Technology, which is *entirely*
> different.
Yup, that's a brain fart that's plagued me since the 80s.
-dq
Hello all,
I have a couple of questions regarding 5.25 inch, DS/DD disks...
First, where is the best place to buy some new ones?
Second, does any manufacturer still produce this media, and what is the
shelf life? Basically, what I'm asking here is, will our 5.25 drives become
useless before too much longer?
I remember a discussion on the group a while back regarding the use of HD
media in DD drives. After reading about two thousand messages more
complicated than quantum mechanics, I gave up trying to figure it out :-)
So now I've resigned myself to seek the newest 5.25 DS/DD disks that I can
find. Any help appreciated! Long live my Commodore 128!
Thanks in advance,
Earl Evans
retro(a)retrobits.com
Enjoy Retrocomputing!
Join us at http://www.retrobits.com
This might be a topic better posted in the alt.folklore.computers
USENET group, but let me try here first. This is from memory, and
it's not as reliable as I'd like it to be.
IIRC, OS/2 was not Microsoft's first attempt to create a
multitasking operating system. They were working on, and
I believe mostly finished, a DOS 4.0 that was multitasking.
This was not the PC-DOS 4.0 for IBM, nor was it the MS-DOS
4.0 that we finally saw here in the states.
This multitasking DOS 4.0 (from Microsoft, not a third party)
was supplied with a computer that was old only in either the
UK or more widely in Europe. It seems that the first letter
of the computer manufacturer was an 'A', so the machine could
have been an Apricot, an Amstrad, an Acorn, or lord knows.
I read about this machine either in Byte during the late 80s
or in a BIX conference (I MISS BIX!). I've searched the web
for references to this multitasking MS-DOS 4, and have found
nothing.
Does anyone else remember this? Was the Byte article reviewing
a sample of a product that never shipped? Did anyone get their
hands on one? Does anyone have it?
-doug q
> Keeping in mind, that (at least in the past) if you paid IBM enough, you
> could get a mainframe done in just about any color scheme that you wanted.
>
> I have to think that the wildest one that I personally experienced, was at
> a Ralston Purina (feed) plant. And yes, as you might guess (or fear) the
> entire system was painted in red and white checkerboard.
Most 370s I'd seen had been either the standard blue or the
(older?) burnt sienna, but at IU Kokomo (or was it Fort Wayne?)
they had a 370/25 that was canary yellow. Talk about putting
your eyes out!
-dq
I think this guy may have fool's gold syndrome but if someone would like
to help him out then please do.
Reply-to: m.mcneely(a)prodigy.net
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 10:21:56 -0400
From: m.mcneely <m.mcneely(a)prodigy.net>
Subject: vax
i have a vax 4000/300 and codex 6745 i just unplugged from the wall in a major retail store im demolishing it was installed new in 90
i dont know anything about servers but i know it must be worth something it looks new
it has 3 dec300servers in it, and plenty of other things [hubs routers monitors and key boards]
that i dont know anything about
what im looking for is {whats it worth} it was working when i unplugged it
it still has the two floppies in the drive and i have all the cables that were hooked to it
if you would like i can send pics
i'd be willing to pay someone a commition for selling it for me
thanks in advance
Rick
M.McNeely(a)prodigy.net
Sellam International Man of Intrigue and Danger
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Looking for a six in a pile of nines...
Coming soon: VCF 4.0!
VCF East: Planning in Progress
See http://www.vintage.org for details!
Maybe I am lucky or my SO is special but we have come to an equilibrium.
She has a few pieces of sailing and tennis equipment scattered around the
property and I have lots of computer stuff. Last week she was looking for
the lawn swings and looked in the attic of the garage. Her first question
was "Where did all of that stuff come from?" Luckily I could "honestly"
answer that many of the boxes were empty waiting to ship stuff. I seem to
collect really good quality computer/medical equipment shipping boxes. It's
much easier to send somebody a computer if it's packed right. She has never
looked in the little travel trailer which we haven't used in years.
Currently full of cables and old tape stuff. I can always point to her
tennis racquet stringing machine in the rec room and sails hanging in the
garage.
I firmly believe and we have discussed this that a computer hobby is a lot
cheaper than all of the people around here who go to the gambling boats,
football/baseball games, golf, or out at the bars every night. Besides I'm
usually not drinking, loosing money, or chasing women just out in the garage
fiddling with the computers. The skills from this hobby also means that I
can usually fix a dead phone, rewire broken mixer cord, replace furnace fan
motor, fix plumbing, fiddle with electrical/electronic devices, take a VCR
apart and sometimes even get it back together and working. I have an old
house which means all these skills are survival skills. I also get called by
neighbors to look at their computers and this nets me a few old
machines/components.
Mike
My thoughts right now, nobody else's.
mmcfadden(a)cmh.edu
Well...
It would be an entire building, I like Marvin's 10,000 sq ft. minimum, as
for the fire protection, I'd for sure want halon or something similar, i.e.
NO water! A raised floor of course, but with twice the normal height under
the floor. Also, a basement area containing some massive transformers (so I
could get 440 volt power), and diesel generators in the event of power
failure. There would also be room for a water cooling system, in the event I
ever get lucky enough to own an IBM 3033 or other water-cooled machine.
Central air is a must, I'd require it to be a positive air flow environent,
meeting mil specs. Definetly climate-controlled, I like the fireproof room
for docs and software idea, also a seperate room for spare boards and misc
stuff. It would have to have an area for disk pack storage too. Another
seperate workshop-type room, with logic analyzer, scope, etc. Also, multiple
humongous 3-phase UPS's, just in case. Hell, why not my own substation?
Also, a loading dock at semi height would be good, and there would be a nice
long sloped ramp too.
Will J
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[..snip..]
> Anyway, the IBM Incompatibles that I've got include :
> Sirius (Victor 9000)
???
I remember Victor going through lots of trouble before
it disappeared; did it in fact get revived for a while
as Sirius? Or was Sirius another company, buying V9000s
and rebadging them?
A Victor 9000 is one of the few PC-alikes I intend on
adding to my collection; a Tandy 2000 would be another.
-dq
> Also, multiple humongous 3-phase UPS's, just in case.
> Hell, why not my own substation?
Will, don't stop there... why not go all the way and
install a fast breeder reactor, so you'll be able to
have all the electricity you need plus generate your
own fuel for future use!
Hey, the original post did say "Dream", didn't it?
8D
I've got a box of five TU58-K DECTAPE IIs available,
if someone has a need for them and has something to
swap in return (I'm not lookin for much) let me know.
Bill
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On June 29, Tony Duell wrote:
> It's essentially the same CPU, packed into a different case, and with an
> RC25 disk drive. I am told the latter is a nightmare which headcrashes if
> you look at it wrongly, but anyway.....
At a former place of employment, there was a legend of one of those
blasted RC25 drives crashing because someone farted.
Apparently, the guy was sitting on one of those notorious un-padded
wooden chairs which was on the raised floor right next to the machine
(an 11/725) containing the drive. He ate lunch at the Mexican
restaurant across the street. Apparently his output produced just
enough vibration at just the right frequency to cause the head to hit
the media during a spinup.
-Dave McGuire
Hi. I have a Xerox DayBreak workstation lying on a corner back
home and I'd really much liked to do something with it. I have already
posted emails to this list about this subject, but since so much time
passed since then I resolved to re-post to see I get something
new. The issues I'd like to solve are:
1. decent interface of the display output to some monitor -- I
worked on a small circuit to convert the ECL levels and separate syncs
into a composite video output, for a mono monitor, using discrete
components, but the image was sort of fuzzy. Are there any ideas on
doing these the right way (if any)?
2. interfacing the keyboard/mouse connector to a PC's serial
port -- I managed to build a decent interface for this (using a
MAX232), but now the problem is protocol: anyone knows the protocol
for sending key presses/releases signals? I believe they have
something from 1 to 3 bytes.
I have a set of PDF of scanned Xerox manuals (TechRef and IOP)
including some schematics (awesome work! congrats for the one who
scanned them and put them on the web!). But they don't specify the
keyboard protocol. On the other hand, I also got PDF's of the MESA
manuals, but they describe teh keyboard interface at the API level (no
luck there either).
Any help on these issues is very welcome!
Cheers,
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