- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On February 2, jpero(a)sympatico.ca wrote: > Trouble is, I don't have a vax. :-P That can be fixed!! 8-) -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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Iomega Bernoulli 230MB drive

by wcrosby63＠earthlink.net

I have an Iomega Bernoulli hard drive that is not functioning properly. It wants to format the disks. I have 230 and 150 MB disks that I want to transfer the info to Zip disk, then CD. Can you help? Thanks. Wendy

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classiccmp-digest V1 #851

by bqt＠update.uu.se

On Sat, 2 Feb 2002, classiccmp-digest wrote: > Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 08:19:18 -0800 (PST) > From: Ethan Dicks <erd_6502(a)yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: Anything special about converting VAX 11/780 to single phase? > > - --- Robert F Schaefer <rschaefe(a)gcfn.org> wrote: > > ISTR there was a model that had 3-phase blower motors. A three-phase > > motor will not operate on single-phase. It *has* to have all three legs > > to run. > > We had an 8530 that needed 3-phase. I had to install the plug on the > panel for our AC because our machine-panel only had two legs (everything > we had was single-phase 120VAC except the TU78 - 220V). Our AC was > large enough that it had a 3-phase compressor. The 8530 don't *nned* 3-phase to run. It's normally equipped with a 3-phase connector, but it can be converted. The machine Robert is thinking of is the 86x0 machine, which have 3-phase motors in the fans. Johnny Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt(a)update.uu.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

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Any tools for analyzing PDP-10 code?

by dpeschel＠eskimo.com

Screen too small: need at least 10 lines I'm trying to understand a PDP-10 machine-language program and I was hoping someone had written a program to help with that. I already know about CREF. What I want is more like a basic-block analyzer, since I want to find out what code calls what other code. It would have to work with FAIL source, .REL, or .EXE files. And if anyone has a grammar for FAIL, that would be nice too. Thanks, -- Derek

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so, can you run UNIX on a PDP11/03 or not?

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 31, Gunther Schadow wrote: > Also, has anybody ever run a VAX11 in PDP mode for real? Sound > pretty wild to me to spend so much money only to not use the > virtual memory. The only use of the vax11's pdp11 compatibility mode that I've ever heard of was to run RSX-11 binaries under VMS. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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cheap 16MB 30-pin RAM on eBay

by doc＠mdrconsult.com

Some reseller on eBay evidently brought out his stash - he's selling several hundred SIMMs in lots of 4. He seems to have a lot of complaints - 197 negatives of 4900 feedbacks - but $15 for 64M ain't a bad gamble.... http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1328405102 Doc

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fight with Kermit on VMS ...

by gunther＠aurora.regenstrief.org

Hi, my last question for today is about Kermit on VMS. Last night I tried to get CMUIP ("OpenCMU" :-) onto my VAX so I could finally get access to faster file transfer. But the old frogs on both sides didn't want to play nice. After having transferred 99% of the data, they would seem to get into a fight over the very last packet. Ultimately the server (on VAX) would abort with retry counter expired. Kermit on FreeBSD was nice to give me all sorts of tweaks on the settings but nothing helped. Why the last block? If I were on UNIX I would have just send one more block and then stripped that off again, but on VMS I'm so blind. What happens without this last block is that LZDCMP.EXE will say there's a problem with the archive and never really extract anything useful. How can I make kermit behave? And, will CMUIP066 even run on VMS 7.2 (or so)? thanks -Gunther -- Gunther Schadow, M.D., Ph.D. gschadow(a)regenstrief.org Medical Information Scientist Regenstrief Institute for Health Care Adjunct Assistant Professor Indiana University School of Medicine tel:1(317)630-7960 http://aurora.regenstrief.org

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Large ESDI Disks

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> Speaking of which, does anyone know where to get controllers and/or > drives to use ESDI on QBus based VAXen? No, but I recommend looking for Webster WQESD/4 controllers. They're a dream! Of course I'd more recommend them for a PDP-11, for a MicroVAX, and old ESDI controller should do. The reason I like WQESD/4 controllers is that they can partition the drive into multiple disks, and you can boot any partition under something like RT-11. Should even be able to do different OS's, but I've not tried it. Zane

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And, in the "Smokin' Crack" category

by doc＠mdrconsult.com

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2000135437 Doc

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Netscape (was Re: PayPal = payola?)

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

> ---------- > From: Doc > <<<<<clipped>>>>> > But I think that in a day or 2 I'll probably be tied for the > *smallest* classic Unix box in the house. Part of this weekend's haul > was an SE/30, I found an ethernet adapter today, and I went to storage > this evening and dug out the 4M 30-pin SIMM stash. A/UX here I come.... > > Doc > ------- Doc --- Well, if I have my way, my Gateway Handbook will be a smaller Unix box... 10" x 6" x 1.5" ;-) And it just squeaks by 10 years old too ( I think, maybe 9...) --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 90581 Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Fri Dec 7 21:39:35 PST 2001 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

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Bondwell portable needs new home

by vcf＠vintage.org

Bondwell's were clam-shell style portables from the mid- to late-80s. Sally has one up for grabs. Contact her if you want it. Reply-to: Lsweetlgs(a)aol.com ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2002 13:37:59 EST From: Lsweetlgs(a)aol.com Subject: Computer I am trying to find out about a 78 Bondwell Portable computer Model 18 if it is worth anything or anyone would want it. I just want to place it somewhere out of my closet. Thank you Sally -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

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HP 5371A Frequency and Time Interval Analyzer

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On February 2, Zane H. Healy wrote: > OK, the question of the day is, what is a 'HP 5371A Frequency and Time > Interval Analyzer', and what is it used for. I just got one minus the two > pods. It looks to be in perfect condition, doesn't even look like it's > really been used. I've got one of those. It's a really sweet box. I use it for characterizing oscillator stability. It can tell you all you ever wanted to know, and then some, about an oscillator's frequency stability...as well as measure the simple things like its absolute frequency, duty cycle, and stuff like that. It can also compare two oscillators against each other, and other stuff in that category. I could really use another one, let me know if you're interested in a trade. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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HP 5371A Frequency and Time Interval Analyzer

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

OK, the question of the day is, what is a 'HP 5371A Frequency and Time Interval Analyzer', and what is it used for. I just got one minus the two pods. It looks to be in perfect condition, doesn't even look like it's really been used. Zane -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh(a)aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |

24 years, 4 months

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And, in the "Smokin' Crack" category

by msell＠ontimesupport.com

Toth, Oh, sure. Rub it in to us Houston guys...... : ) - Matt At 11:25 PM 2/1/2002 -0600, you wrote: >On Sat, 2 Feb 2002, Dave McGuire wrote: > > On February 1, Tothwolf wrote: > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2000135437 > > > > > > LOL...I passed up on about 30 of these at ~$5ea back in '98. > > > > > > Maybe that guy bought them? ;) > > > > Now that's a deal I would have taken. $5/ea is pretty amazing. > >Well, I had just spent $500 on everything else, and I was lacking room to >store anything else :) > >I wish I had known folks in the Houston area at the time tho, I would have >certainly passed the deal on to someone else. > >-Toth Matthew Sell Programmer On Time Support, Inc. www.ontimesupport.com (281) 296-6066 Join the Metrology Software discussion group METLIST! http://www.ontimesupport.com/cgi-bin/mojo/mojo.cgi "One World, One Web, One Program" - Microsoft Promotional Ad "Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer" - Adolf Hitler Many thanks for this tagline to a fellow RGVAC'er...

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And, in the "Smokin' Crack" category

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On February 1, Tothwolf wrote: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2000135437 > > LOL...I passed up on about 30 of these at ~$5ea back in '98. > > Maybe that guy bought them? ;) Now that's a deal I would have taken. $5/ea is pretty amazing. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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Archive 2150 drive belt

by tothwolf＠concentric.net

Does anyone have a source for the drive belt for an Archive 2150S/2150L tape drive? I've got 8 or so of these in various systems that need new belts. I'd also like to find another 2150S (scsi version) if anyone has one laying around. -Toth

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cheap 16MB 30-pin RAM on eBay

by geoffr＠zipcon.net

At 08:34 PM 2/1/02 -0600, you wrote: > > Nope, those are 16 MB Non-parity. > >Are you sure? Count the chips and count the pins in the picture. Based on >that, they look like 70ns parity modules. Of course, that could be a pic >of some other simms, and not the ones up for sale. > >-Toth http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1328405102 Yup, Non Parity, 8 chips..... the parity chip ius missing at least on this auction, the cincher is that these chips came out of Quadra 700 systems. Macs use non-parity ram....

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cheap 16MB 30-pin RAM on eBay

by geoffr＠zipcon.net

Nope, those are 16 MB Non-parity. I've dealt with Sunguk many times and he's a stand up guy, the 1 time I got a bad Dimm from him for my sp[arc ultra he refunded the $ to me with no problems. At 11:29 AM 2/1/02 -0600, you wrote: >On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, Doc Shipley wrote: > > > Some reseller on eBay evidently brought out his stash - he's selling > > several hundred SIMMs in lots of 4. He seems to have a lot of > > complaints - 197 negatives of 4900 feedbacks - but $15 for 64M ain't a > > bad gamble.... > >Of course, 4900 feedbacks is alot too. From the picture, the simms look >like 70ns parity ram, but since the picture is off center, and he states >they are 80ns, the only way to know for sure would be to ask him. 70ns >parity modules could be used in many computers besides a Mac, but 60ns >would be much better for mid to late 486 and early pentium PC type boards. > >-Toth

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Docs for Sonic IIci/SE30 Ethernet?

by doc＠mdrconsult.com

I need the jumper settings. The base card has 2 3-pin jumpers, J4 and J5. J4 is labeled A and 9, and J5 isn't labelled. The daughtercard has 2 18-pin (I think, maybe 20-pin) DIP sockets, labeled AUI & BNC, and the AUI socket has a DIP module that looks like a straight jumper block. I've got OS 7.1 installed, and "Ethernet Inside" sees the card, but it fails all tests. I'm not willing to go for the "hosed" option yet. And no, of course there's no part number anywhere. It has a right-angle PDS pass-through, what looks like an empty FPU socket, and AUI & BNC connectors. Thanks, Doc

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80 col Apple ][

by mhstein＠canada.com

Yup! Moved the 80col card to slot 3 and Bob's yer uncle. WS & Supercalc look MUCH better. No BNC's used or harmed in the making of this message, btw : 3 RCAs on Apple (40/80/RF), RCA on 40/Colour monitor, UHF on 80/Mono monitor, F59 on TV. :-) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 20:50:53 -0700 From: "Richard Erlacher" <edick(a)idcomm.com> Subject: Re: 80 col Apple ][ So, did that fix your problem? Dick

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More on the Icom Attache Video

by r_beaudry＠hotmail.com

>>I had an Icom Attache, made by Pertec. It was basically an Altair 8800bt >>(Turnkey), with an integrated keyboard and video capabilities. It was in >>a >>nice case, kinda like a large Apple II case (which it was desinged to >>compete against). Composite video output used a BNC connector. >That's a system I've never seen. do you have a picture? What sort of > >video >(pixel format) did it produce? Well, They key is that I HAD the system. The manuals and system are now somewhere in France after being an eBay "Auction for America" (Yah, I know, it's where the money goes, not necessarily the item...). I don't recall off the top of my head what the technical specs on the video were. It was extremely hard to let it go, but my sacrifice was NOTHING compared to the sacrifice of the people who received the money. The video was a wild arrangement, where basically the rest of the computer assumed it was talking through a serial link. The video board (actually two board bolted together) hooked up to a serial port, and also to the keyboard. It converted the keyboard input to serial characters, so the computer thought it was getting input from a terminal. The video board(s) also converted the serial output of the computer to composite video. This allowed them to use MITS boards, unaltered, and run with them.... I have pictures, and will dig them up soon... Rich B. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

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paging Al Kossow

by dpeschel＠eskimo.com

Al, Just wondering if you got my e-mail. -- Derek

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Q-Bus fear and other DEC busses ....

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Feb 1, 17:31, Gunther Schadow wrote: > I read a web article the other day where the guy describes the > various forms of the Qbus and he also said that you could fry > certain cards when you stick'em in a wrong version of the Qbus. > Since I have a uVAX II and a PDP11/03 I would want to know if > I can mix and much cards with thoese busses or if I would fry > a K[ZF]QSA board sticking it into the wrong bus. There are two possibilities here. One is that there are board sets such as the RLV11 controller which use the CD-interconnect to talk to each other, and those won't like being in a serpentine backplane, where both A-B and C-D carry Q-bus signals. They're designed to be used a a straight backplane, where the Q-bus is only on A-B, and the lower side of each C-D is connected to the upper side of the next C-D row down. The other possibility is that some backplanes (notably some Plessey ones) have battery voltages or occasionally even AC voltages on the "spare" pins and they may fry boards that expect signals there rather than a power supply. > Also, why was the need for grant continuity cards an advantage? Well, a better way of looking at it is that there's a design feature which is advantageous in providing prioritisation of interrupts according to position relative to the front (processor end) of the bus, but the penalty is that you need grant cards as a result. It's the interrupt chain. In -11 busses it's designed so the chain passes through each device, and therefore any device can be built with the capability of locking out devices behind it while it's being serviced. Anything further away will wait until the locking device releases the interrupt, then it's own request will automagically be seen by the processor. There's no such scheme in an Omnibus, as the signal goes "past" each card rather than "through" it. > The OMNIBUS didn't need it but the UNIBUS (and Q-bus?) do. > Also, what's the deal about grant continuity cards, they seem to > just have a few lines shorted. In the UNIBUS box next to my > VAX 11 it has some intermediary open slots but only one grant > card plugged in. How could that work? The grant cards only need to carry the interrupt request and NPR lines; these are the only ones that have an IN and an OUT on each slot. Other signals just daisy-chain the slots together like a busbar in a power distribution panel. The other way is to use a wirwrap on the backplane between the IN and the OUT. The NPR line is often dealt with in that way, and G727 grant cards actually only jumper the four interrupt lines (G7272 jumpers NPR as well). There are a few reasons you may only have grant cards in some slots. It's quite possible that something has been removed and nobody put a grant card in even though they should. It may well work like that, if nothing further back actually needs the signals. Another possibility is that you're looking at some custom backplane which doesn't have standard SPC slots -- not all Unibus backplanes are wired the same way -- though I can't think of one that has SPC in some slots and custom wiring in others. No DEC one, anyway. > Also, why can you stick > 1x or 2x cards into the different sections, is there a difference > where you put them? Why is the feed to the UNIBUS only a 2x card > and where must you plug that? Is it magic? The Unibus signals fit onto two rows, A and B. On a normal expansion backplane, some of those signals are redistributed onto rows CDEF as SPC signals, so in effect you have two busses side by side -- Unibus (or MUD : Modified Unibus Device) in slots A and B, and SPC (Small Peripheral Controller, same signals more or less, but different arrangement) in CDEF. You can fit a dual-height Unibus card in rows AB, and/or a quad-height SPC card in CDEF, or a hex card in ABCDEF. If you really mean single-height (only one slot) or dual-height when you write 1x or 2x, those are usually cards which are parts of some device built from simple(ish) logic modules; they're not Unibus or SPC cards, and generally fit into specific places in a specially-wired backplane where only A+B of the first and last slot are Unibus. The rest are some custom point-to-point wiring for a particular device, built from simple modules. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Mac 512k

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Ben Franchuk [mailto:bfranchuk@jetnet.ab.ca] > > Remember that it takes a relatively old OS to boot a 512k mac. > I still remember reading how to upgrade your mac to 512k from > 128k. The > old solder on new chips over the old ones trick. I recall the same kind of trick for a color-computer 1. :) In that case, it was supposed to give you extra capacity above the supposed 64k maximum. No idea how it was addressed. It could be that my memory is cloudy and it was an upgrade _to_ the 64k maximum. I seem to remember, for some reason, the upgrade got the thing up to 96k or some odd number like that. Of course, this is a vague recollection from an article in a "Hot CoCo" magazine a while back, so may not be completely accurate. Or it may be way off. The only part that I recall with clarity is that one was required to solder new chips on top of the old. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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1520 plotter (was RE: Your VIC-20 is worth $300!!! W@W!)

by Adrian.Graham＠corporatemicrosystems.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk [mailto:ard@p850ug1.demon.co.uk] > Sent: 29 January 2002 20:08 > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: 1520 plotter (was RE: Your VIC-20 is worth $300!!! W@W!) > > Let me see if I get this. Somebody is stripping a useable (or > at least > repairable) plotter becsue the packing box is falling apart??? Calm down Tony :) I'm not stripping it because the box is tatty; I'm stripping it because it's a) bust and b) more use to someone else as spares than it is for me since I've already got 2 in the museum and don't need a 3rd broken one... a

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turning off volume shadowing on VMS?

by gunther＠aurora.regenstrief.org

ahh, one more question. How can I turn off volume shadowing on VMS 7.2 (?). I need to get physical access to some of the disks in the array so I can load an Ultrix filesystem image on them. But it won't let me mount/forreign a disk that's part of a shadow set. thanks, -Gunther -- Gunther Schadow, M.D., Ph.D. gschadow(a)regenstrief.org Medical Information Scientist Regenstrief Institute for Health Care Adjunct Assistant Professor Indiana University School of Medicine tel:1(317)630-7960 http://aurora.regenstrief.org

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Q-Bus fear and other DEC busses ....

by gunther＠aurora.regenstrief.org

I read a web article the other day where the guy describes the various forms of the Qbus and he also said that you could fry certain cards when you stick'em in a wrong version of the Qbus. Since I have a uVAX II and a PDP11/03 I would want to know if I can mix and much cards with thoese busses or if I would fry a K[ZF]QSA board sticking it into the wrong bus. Also, why was the need for grant continuity cards an advantage? The OMNIBUS didn't need it but the UNIBUS (and Q-bus?) do. Also, what's the deal about grant continuity cards, they seem to just have a few lines shorted. In the UNIBUS box next to my VAX 11 it has some intermediary open slots but only one grant card plugged in. How could that work? Also, why can you stick 1x or 2x cards into the different sections, is there a difference where you put them? Why is the feed to the UNIBUS only a 2x card and where must you plug that? Is it magic? Are there UNIBUS backplanes with more than 9 rows? so many questions :-) -Gunther -- Gunther Schadow, M.D., Ph.D. gschadow(a)regenstrief.org Medical Information Scientist Regenstrief Institute for Health Care Adjunct Assistant Professor Indiana University School of Medicine tel:1(317)630-7960 http://aurora.regenstrief.org

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so, can you run UNIX on a PDP11/03 or not?

by gunther＠aurora.regenstrief.org

I hear mixed messages about that. Is there someone who knows, and not only if any, but also which version of UNIX would run? I want to give it a shot. Also, has anybody ever run a VAX11 in PDP mode for real? Sound pretty wild to me to spend so much money only to not use the virtual memory. cheers, -Gunther -- Gunther Schadow, M.D., Ph.D. gschadow(a)regenstrief.org Medical Information Scientist Regenstrief Institute for Health Care Adjunct Assistant Professor Indiana University School of Medicine tel:1(317)630-7960 http://aurora.regenstrief.org

24 years, 4 months

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new RX02 disks?

by tom＠sba.miami.edu

Does anyone know of a source for new 8" floppies? I've borrowed some software that I need to copy and give back, and in the interests of longevity, I'd just assume not recycle a disk that is already 20 years old. Thanks, Tom

24 years, 4 months

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Packrat genome project questions

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Feb 1, 8:14, Ethan Dicks wrote: > I know what you mean about a PET 4032 being elusive. It's one model I > haven't run across yet. I sold one about 4 years ago for UKP20 (about $30). > I do have a 4016 I need to repair - someone on > this list used to use it when it was at UC Santa Barara, IIRC - it has a > laboratory I/O package - BNCs and banana jacks in a metal box off to the > right side, and a small card cage inside that sits on the two 40-pin > expansion connectors. It's one of the ones that Commodore prevented from > being upgraded by perforating the motherboard at the upper 16K positions. > It can be restored, but there are several 3/8" holes and missing pads > and traces to work around. I remember upgrading a few like that in the early '80s. The college deliberately bought 4106s becasue the cost of memory was lower than the price difference, and we were a bit cheesed off to find those drilled holes. I upgraded them anyway, it just took a little longer. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Large ESDI Disks

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On February 1, Ethan Dicks wrote: > > Certainly not within the size range that Sridhar was > > referring to but my MVII had dual Maxtor XT-8380E (380MB, ESDI, > > 5-1/4" FH) drives installed when I got it. One has since been pulled > > to act as a spare and replaced in the BA23 with a TK50. > > I have a 5.25"-tall, rackable box with two 5.25" full-height 1.2Gb ESDI > drives (plus room for two more) and an ESDI<->SDI converter (and room > for one more). I forget the maker, but it was one of the companies > that used to make add-on disks and the like 10 years ago (MBA Systems > Automation?) > > It's much quieter and reliable than my RA81. Ahhh, I have about four subsystems exactly like that made by Systems Industries. They are *wonderful*. I even have the docs. :-) -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

24 years, 4 months

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cheap 16MB 30-pin RAM on eBay

by zaft＠azstarnet.com

At 11:29 AM 2/1/2002 -0600, you wrote: >Of course, 4900 feedbacks is alot too. From the picture, the simms look >like 70ns parity ram, but since the picture is off center, and he states >they are 80ns, the only way to know for sure would be to ask him. 70ns >parity modules could be used in many computers besides a Mac, but 60ns >would be much better for mid to late 486 and early pentium PC type boards. I don't recall seeing board that claimed to support 16M 30 pin simms. Do they 'automagically' support this size, or is it just a small group that actually used 'em?

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Low cost Thin Film Thickness Measurement System

by foo＠siconic.com

On 1 xxx -1, Sales(a)MissionPeakOptics.com wrote: > visit our website www.MissionPeakOptics.com for more information Time to restrict access to subscribers only. Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

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Large ESDI Disks

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On February 1, Christopher Smith wrote: > Speaking of which, does anyone know where to get controllers and/or > drives to use ESDI on QBus based VAXen? eBay. A few months ago, I picked up an Emulex QD21 for $10. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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Large ESDI Disks

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Jeff Hellige [mailto:jhellige@earthlink.net] > Certainly not within the size range that Sridhar was > referring to but my MVII had dual Maxtor XT-8380E (380MB, ESDI, > 5-1/4" FH) drives installed when I got it. One has since been pulled > to act as a spare and replaced in the BA23 with a TK50. Speaking of which, does anyone know where to get controllers and/or drives to use ESDI on QBus based VAXen? Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Mac 512k

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>I got an old mac 512k, and when i try to turn it on, a dead man appears >and a number is show. >(The number changes every time I turn it on.) >Can it be because there is no keyboard? Mac's will boot just fine without a keyboard. What you are seeing is a "Sad Mac". What are the numbers that are shown? I know they change, but if you can give us an example of a few (and be accurate), then we might be able to help. Those numbers are telling you what is wrong. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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uVAXs in 1987 (Was Re: Bell & Howell Apple II update)

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On February 1, Julius Sridhar wrote: > > > does anyone have ideas on what other multi-user timesharing > > > systems were available in {87} at about ... $50K to $100K)? > > > > How about... any Unix system (Sun, HP, Apollo, others)? > > Can any of these do billed processor/I/O time? Most Unix implementations have had resource accounting for years. It's not quite as extensive as mainframe stuff or something like VMS, but it works well and is quite usable. So, yes. :) -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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Mac 512k

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Ethan Dicks [mailto:erd_6502@yahoo.com] > If you have just a 512K, remember that you need an OS on a 400K > floppy or it won't work. If it's a 512Ke, I'm pretty sure it won't > boot 0.97 anymore. Are you sure? I booted .97 on a Mac Plus. (I still have the machine, and the 400k disk I used.) Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Large ESDI Disks

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On February 1, Russ Blakeman wrote: > I'm curious too, haven't seen an ESDI bigger than 120mb personally. I have some 1.2GB Fujitsu ESDI drives...those suckers are quick, too. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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Bell & Howell Apple II update

by Lee.Davison＠merlincommunications.com

> Monitors of the time, at least of the NTSC-compatible > type, were typically equipped with PL-259 connectors > on the rear. Not true, at least in the video industry. >By the time consumer video equipment became popular, > the PL-259, which was also common in the '70's for other > 75-ohm applications e.g. antennas and the like, had been > replaced by the 'F' types in video hookups, since those > were MUCH cheaper. The PL-259 was in use primarily for carrying VHF and UHF signals, not baseband video. The PL259/SO259 was originally designed in the 1940's to carry the then high resolution 3.5MHz 405 line baseband video signal. They remained as the connector of choice, at least in europe, until the 70's when the more compact BNC took over. Patch pannels were, and are still, mostly Musa as they are easy to (un)plug even when packed closely. As I said, I may be sorry to have chimed in on this nearly off-topic conversation, but when I see blanket statements being made that are obviously incorrect I have a hard time remaining silent. Ah, ok. 8^)= Lee. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- This email is intended only for the above named addressee(s). The information contained in this email may contain information which is confidential. The views expressed in this email are personal to the sender and do not in any way reflect the views of the company. If you have received this email and you are not a named addressee please delete it from your system and contact Merlin Communications International IT Department on +44 20 7344 5888. ________________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star Internet. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk ________________________________________________________________________

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New Buy & VMS help wanted

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On February 1, Julius Sridhar wrote: > > 8-bit graphics would have a set of 3 boards. How many boards in your > > framebuffer setup? If you have one, it's mono. Two is -- I think -- > > 4 bit color. > > I believe what he is describing, is mono. Grayscale...VCB02. The mono framebuffer is a VCB01, M7602. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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New Buy & VMS help wanted

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On February 1, Pat Finnegan wrote: > I also picked up its console cable and an LK-401 for it, but didn't see > its mouse laying around. :( Anyways, the 'console cable' connects to the > framebuffer and provides a modular jack (LK-401 im sure), an 8-pin > Mini-DIN (mouse?), and a single BNC connector. Does anyone know of a sane > way to connect this to a garden variety monitor? Is it really monochrome > as I suspect? The framebuffer cards are a M7168 and a M7169, so I > *thought* it would be 8-plane *color* graphics... but I guess 8-plane mono > is believable. Anywho, if the TK50 remains, it'll have to be the > framebuffer that goes away when I get that pertec card.. That frame buffer is a VCB02, or QDSS. M7169 is the smarts, and M7168 is a memory board. You can have one or two M7168s, each gives you four bitplanes...so you have a 4-plane framebuffer. This can drive a color monitor for 16 colors or a mono monitor for 16 levels of gray. Which monitor you can drive depends on the cable. From your description, you have a grayscale cable, used with, for example, a VR160 monitor. A color cable will have three BNCs. I've found the grayscale cables to be somewhat rare. I wouldn't bother trying to drive a VGA monitor with this. Proper DEC monitors are relatively easy to find, and I find them to be of much higher quality than all but the most expensive PeeCee monitors. > One last thing... on VMS 1) how do I figure out the size of the > hard-drives (like du on *nix), and 2) how do I mount a hard disk without > knowing its label? The second ESDI drive doesn't get automatically > mounted when VMS boots. 1) $ show dev du/full 2) $ mount du?/override=id (where "?" is the unit number) -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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cheap 16MB 30-pin RAM on eBay

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On February 1, Tothwolf wrote: > > Some reseller on eBay evidently brought out his stash - he's selling > > several hundred SIMMs in lots of 4. He seems to have a lot of > > complaints - 197 negatives of 4900 feedbacks - but $15 for 64M ain't a > > bad gamble.... > > Of course, 4900 feedbacks is alot too. From the picture, the simms look > like 70ns parity ram, but since the picture is off center, and he states > they are 80ns, the only way to know for sure would be to ask him. 70ns > parity modules could be used in many computers besides a Mac, but 60ns > would be much better for mid to late 486 and early pentium PC type boards. These are also quite useful (I'd actually say *more* useful) for use in Sun4/600 systems. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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S/370 docs (was: Re: IBM big iron.)

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

Now why can't anyone ever say "Hey, I have 4381, 3380, and 3880 docs to get rid of... Want em?" It sucks owning what is essentially 3000+ pounds worth of paperweights. Will J _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.

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New Buy & VMS help wanted

by pat＠purdueriots.com

I just got a VAXstation 3200 today for about $15... Amazingly enough, it boots up to VMS 5.3-1 (can't log in though.) Can anyone recommend a good guide for using VMS that's either avalible at a good book store or (preferred) availble online? Specs: 8 line serial card (forgot to look at the model #), TK-50 controller (didn't grab the drive, but might do that tomorrow..), 8-plane framebuffer, 2x8M QBus memory cards, 2x760M ST-506 interface hard drives, DELQA ethernet, KA650-B cpu card, (and that's about all I think...) pics at http://purdueriots.com/imgs/vs3200-back-lores.jpg and http://purdueriots.com/imgs/vs3200-front-lores.jpg -- Pat

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new RX02 disks?

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Tom Leffingwell [mailto:tom@sba.miami.edu] > Does anyone know of a source for new 8" floppies? I've borrowed > some software that I need to copy and give back, and in the > interests of > longevity, I'd just assume not recycle a disk that is already 20 years > old. Last time I looked, even a quick search on yahoo or google turned up a couple of "bulk media" type companies that still carry 8" disks. This was maybe two months ago. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Low cost Thin Film Thickness Measurement System

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

> ---------- > From: Sellam Ismail > > On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, John Lawson wrote: > > > Besides, sure as shit, the day we moderate this is the day that some > > guy's uncle dies and they clean out his storage space with the last > Foonly > > in it, and the nephew can't get a message thru and it goes to the dump. > > The solution is simple. We're not moderating anything. We're just making > the list writeable by subscribers only. If non-subscribers try to post we > can bounce them back a message telling them how to properly post a > message. > > Even better, maybe we can provide a web form to submit messages to the > list? We can redirect them to that instead, then it'll be easy for them > to post that they found the first Altair that got "lost" in transit to > Popular Electronics that will be given to the first person who replies and > says they'll pay for shipping. > > We can put this up on the classiccmp website with a big sign that says > "POST MESSAGES TO THE CLASSICCMP LIST HERE". > > I'll volunteer the programming for this even. > > Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer > Festival > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > > Unless I missed someone else saying it, I would suggest both methods together in the same message. --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 90581 Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Fri Dec 7 21:39:35 PST 2001 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

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New Buy & VMS help wanted

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Julius Sridhar [mailto:vance@ikickass.org] > > Relatively common, but DEC original. Don't plug a PS/2 mouse in! :) > Would it even fit? I don't know, nor would I really want to find out. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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New Buy & VMS help wanted

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Pat Finnegan [mailto:pat@purdueriots.com] > I also picked up its console cable and an LK-401 for it, but > didn't see > its mouse laying around. :( Anyways, the 'console cable' Relatively common, but DEC original. Don't plug a PS/2 mouse in! :) > connects to the > framebuffer and provides a modular jack (LK-401 im sure), an 8-pin > Mini-DIN (mouse?), and a single BNC connector. Does anyone > know of a sane > way to connect this to a garden variety monitor? Is it > really monochrome > as I suspect? The framebuffer cards are a M7168 and a M7169, so I > *thought* it would be 8-plane *color* graphics... but I guess > 8-plane mono > is believable. Anywho, if the TK50 remains, it'll have to be the > framebuffer that goes away when I get that pertec card.. 8-bit graphics would have a set of 3 boards. How many boards in your framebuffer setup? If you have one, it's mono. Two is -- I think -- 4 bit color. I have no idea how to connect that to a monitor, nor whether you got the right adaptor. If you have a mono board, it's easy ;) Otherwise, maybe it's a composite signal of some sort. > One last thing... on VMS 1) how do I figure out the size of the > hard-drives (like du on *nix), and 2) how do I mount a hard Try "SHOW DEV D" (In english that's "give stats on all devices beginning with D," I think) > disk without > knowing its label? The second ESDI drive doesn't get automatically > mounted when VMS boots. The /OVER=ID option will do what you want. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Continuation of... RE: Friday's score... [kinda long?]

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

Well, here's the rest of that haul (finally!)... *** Commodore 128(64) Software/books *** ---Original s/w diskettes--- C128 CP/M System Disk - CP/M Plus Ver. 3.0 - this'll be interesting. Never actually played w/ CP/M before! C128 Tutorial Disk c= model 1571 test/demo diskette double sided 48 tpi - didn't want capital letters on this disk, apparently... Sylvia Porter's Personal Finance 128 Series The Bard's Tale - Tales Of The Unknown Vol. 1 Music Construction Set Demon Stalkers SkyFox Hacker (includes QuickDrive!) Bruce Lee (with Atari 32K RAM version on side 2!) Leader Board Leader Board World Class Ghosts 'N Goblins Castle Wolfenstein Alternate Reality - The City Alternate Reality - The Dungeon Paperback Writer 128 Dark Lord The Neverending Story Might And Magic Might And Magic II ---copies (seperated by disk)--- Dig Dug Pac Man Centipede Buck Rogers Lazer Zone Worms Grid Runner Donkey Kong Omega Race ( I used to have that cartridge!) LeMans Mike.wrm -probably one of Michael Brodt's saved Worms gNinjaames. -If so, judging by the writing, I'd say Michael is -a bit of a young'un, like me ;-) Blue Max Black Hawk Night Mission Protector II Fort Apocolypse River Raid Ninja 3720 Serpentine (?) Vacations Renaissance Shamus Omega Race Satans Hollow Boulder Dash Blueprint Wizard Of War Dig Dug Defender Colossus Chess Hellcat Ace Armageddon Wet Paint Lazarian Pooyar Pogo joe Ice Palace Sargon Sword Of Fargol Telengard Xyzzy (?) Summer Games - had it, loved it, need to find Summer Games II, - and Winter Games! Phantasie Demon Stalkers Demon Stalkers Levels C12802 (?) - Michael - Remember what this is for? Kracker Jax Vol. 7 Elite V. 4.0 - Wasn't there a Pirate's TollChest? I'm pretty - sure that's what we had with our C=64... Grand Prix Bard's Tale Character Disk Bard's Tale Dungeon Disk Copy Disk Might & Magic sides B,C, & D Might & Magic II Side B - have 3 copies of it. Not sure if they all work... Might & Magic II sides C,D,E, & F Blockout Grand Prix Dungeon Char. Disk #3 Backup Disk #2 (?) Bruce #3, #4, #5 ---books--- C= 1571 Disk Drive User's Guide C= 128 Personal Computer Introductory Guide C= 64C Personal Computer Introductory Guide C= 128 Personal Computer System Guide Quest For Clues Eye Of The Beholder rule book (copy) Castles user guide (copy) Firehawk - Thexder: The Second Contact (copy) Phantasie user guide (copy) Golf Solitare (printout) chess appendix a: complete chess games (?) Prince Of Persia user's guide (copy) The Everything Book for Commodore 64 & 128 Fall 1987 --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 > ---------- > From: David Woyciesjes > > Well, for those curious, and those whom I said I would inform, here > is a list of (100lbs!) Commodore 128 and Atari 800 goodies I got courtesy of > Michael Brodt... (This list is for my own inventory purpose, as much as your > entertainment.) > > Commodore 128 --- > - 1571 floppy drive > - Wico Command Control bat handle joystick > - TV connector/adaptor. > > Atari 800 --- > (there's " #043 " rubber-stamped on the model sticker, above the printed No. > 472297 Any ideas? Also a sticker with a handwritten "AW458710 1/28") > - Atari810 floppy drive > - 4 joysticks (one missing the 'stick'. Hey, the Commodore joystick will > work on this, won't it?)You know, it would be real easy to turn the busted > one into a gamepad, wouldn't it? > - Microbits Peripheral Products Parallel Printer interface > > And software/books/magazines are: > (game names are writen exactly as seen on the label. Maybe Michael or > someone can say what the misspellings are supposed to be...) > > *** C=128 *** > > (this list coming soon...) (see above...) > *** Atari 800 *** > > ---originals s/w diskettes--- > Shamus Case II No:4705 > Canyon Climber > The Goonies (it has C=64 version on side 2!) with hints... > Drelbs No:101210 > Alternate Reality: The Dungeon > Alternate Reality: The City > Atari 810 Master Diskette II > Atari 400/800 BASIC cartridge CXL 4002 (priced at $59.95!) > Karateka > The Incredible Laboratory > Realm Of Impossibility > Cyclod > > ---copies--- > Starwars > Frogger > Pogoman > Caverns > Actionquest (?) > > Pacman > Krazy > Defender > Galaxian > Raiders > Miscom (?) > > Speedway > Poype (misspelling on label?) > Joust > Donkey Kong > Nautilis > > Caverns 2 > Montezuma > Snokie > Sargon > Congo > Spy Hunter > Tutunkahmun > > Archon > Zepplin > > Slime > Mario Brothers > > Dig Dug > Cyclod > Spy Huntrcom (?) > Spy Sutle (?) > War Games > Decathlon > Starfighter > PitFall II > Legion > > Koalapad > Jumpman > > Centioede > Wiz Of War > Koalapad > MTV > > Zaxxon > > Zork I > > (on Cyclod disk-- > DigDug > Spyhuntrcom > Spshutle > War Games > Decathlon > StarFighter > PitFall II > Legion > > AtariWriter > > Krazy > Defender > Galaxian > Raiders > Miscom > Anticks > Centipede > > --- books --- > The Video Master's Guide To Defender > -(arcade version) > Basic Fun With Graphics The Atari Way > AD&D Eye Of The Beholder Clue Book > Free Software For your Atari > Dr. C Wacko's Miracle Guide To Designing And Programming Your Own Atari > Computer Arcade Games > Atari Basic - A Self Teaching Guide > Atari Games And Recreations > Atari Basic Quick Reference Guide > Your First Atari Program > Atari Sound And Graphics - A Self Teaching Guide > Owner's Guide for the 800 and 810 > Atari 810 Disk Drive - Introduction To he Disk Operating System > Computers For Kids - Atari Edition > AtariWriter manual > Star Raiders manual > Review - A Catalog Of Atari Learning Systems - Fall 83, Vol 1, Issue 1 > Antic - The Atari Resource - Feb 1988 Vol 6, #10 > Analog Computing - Sep 1987, #57 > Atari Explorer - Feb 1985 > Atari Connection - The Home Computer Magazine - Summer 1983 > Atari Connection - Winter 1984 > Atari Connection - Spring 1984 > Atari Connection - Summer 1984 > APX - Atari Program Exchange Product Catalog - Summer 1983 > APX - Fall 1983 > Home Applications And Games For The Atari Home Computers > Atari 400/800 Basic Reference Manual > Atari 400/800 Disk Operating System II Reference Manual

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