31 Jan
2002
31 Jan
'02
11:26 a.m.
On 1 xxx -1, Sales(a)MissionPeakOptics.com wrote:
visit our website www.MissionPeakOptics.com for more
information
Time to restrict access to subscribers only.
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
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31 Jan
31 Jan
9:17 p.m.
On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, Sellam Ismail wrote:
On 1 xxx -1, Sales(a)MissionPeakOptics.com wrote:
Naw.. it gets like the Appalachians... after a while, everybody in every
little village is related to each other, and they *all* have banjos...
This latest spam is so blatantly brain-dead (what *are* these twits
thinking??) that I think they need a good spanking, like having their
website TOSsed, but in general, considering the list's very low spam freq,
it's less work to just hit the Del Button, and not respond at all. And
some of it (the Chinese stuff that's been obviously patiently translated
word-by-word from a Cantonese-English dictionary) is pretty priceless...
"you know somebody near you wed the China bride?"
Besides, sure as shit, the day we moderate this is the day that some
guy's uncle dies and they clean out his storage space with the last Foonly
in it, and the nephew can't get a message thru and it goes to the dump.
Ya heard it here first.
SPAM: just say "del"!
Cheers
John
visit our website www.MissionPeakOptics.com for
more information
Time to restrict access to subscribers only.
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
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7:10 p.m.
On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, John Lawson wrote:
This latest spam is so blatantly brain-dead (what
*are* these twits
thinking??) that I think they need a good spanking, like having their
website TOSsed, but in general, considering the list's very low spam
freq, it's less work to just hit the Del Button, and not respond at all.
And some of it (the Chinese stuff that's been obviously patiently
translated word-by-word from a Cantonese-English dictionary) is pretty
priceless...
John, I think you're sexy and all but the spam is obviously increasing in
frequency, and if we just let it go for now as you suggest, my guess is
that it'll only get worse. The classiccmp address has been added to some
spammer mailing list. I can feel it. My ass is tingling.
Besides, sure as shit, the day we moderate this is
the day that some
guy's uncle dies and they clean out his storage space with the last Foonly
in it, and the nephew can't get a message thru and it goes to the dump.
The solution is simple. We're not moderating anything. We're just making
the list writeable by subscribers only. If non-subscribers try to post we
can bounce them back a message telling them how to properly post a
message.
Even better, maybe we can provide a web form to submit messages to the
list? We can redirect them to that instead, then it'll be easy for them
to post that they found the first Altair that got "lost" in transit to
Popular Electronics that will be given to the first person who replies and
says they'll pay for shipping.
We can put this up on the classiccmp website with a big sign that says
"POST MESSAGES TO THE CLASSICCMP LIST HERE".
I'll volunteer the programming for this even.
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
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1 Feb
1 Feb
4:39 a.m.
On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, Sellam Ismail wrote:
On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, John Lawson wrote:
Well, what we do on several other mailing lists I deal with is to moderate
non-subscribers only -- their emails are redirected to the moderator(s)
and are sent to the list when the approval message is sent back to the
server.
The web based idea could work, and it would be simple to give the user a
url in the notice email explaining the moderated status for
non-subscribers. The problem I see is that some spammers that get the
moderated notice will then send a message to the list via the web based
access.
-Toth
Besides, sure as shit, the day we moderate this
is the day that some
guy's uncle dies and they clean out his storage space with the last Foonly
in it, and the nephew can't get a message thru and it goes to the dump.
The solution is simple. We're not moderating anything. We're just making
the list writeable by subscribers only. If non-subscribers try to post we
can bounce them back a message telling them how to properly post a
message.
31 Jan
31 Jan
8:48 p.m.
On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, Tothwolf wrote:
Well, what we do on several other mailing lists I deal
with is to moderate
non-subscribers only -- their emails are redirected to the moderator(s)
and are sent to the list when the approval message is sent back to the
server.
Dang it, I was NOT proposing moderation! I was proposing just what you
explain here, which is to "moderate" NON-subscribers only.
The web based idea could work, and it would be simple
to give the user a
url in the notice email explaining the moderated status for
non-subscribers. The problem I see is that some spammers that get the
moderated notice will then send a message to the list via the web based
access.
I don't think any spammer would waste his time actually reading bounced
messages.
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
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1 Feb
1 Feb
7:17 a.m.
On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, Sellam Ismail wrote:
You'd be surprised what spammers will do to get their messages sent out to
a few hundred folks.
-Toth
On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, Tothwolf wrote:
I understand exactly what you are proposing, and wasn't trying to imply I
thought you were proposing *full* moderation.
Well, what we do on several other mailing lists I
deal with is to moderate
non-subscribers only -- their emails are redirected to the moderator(s)
and are sent to the list when the approval message is sent back to the
server.
Dang it, I was NOT proposing moderation! I was proposing just what you
explain here, which is to "moderate" NON-subscribers only. The web based
idea could work, and it would be simple to give the user a
url in the notice email explaining the moderated status for
non-subscribers. The problem I see is that some spammers that get the
moderated notice will then send a message to the list via the web based
access.
I don't think any spammer would waste his time actually reading bounced
messages. 
5:54 a.m.
New subject: Croaking? (was: Low cost Thin Film Thickness Measurement System
Besides, sure as shit, the day we moderate this is
the day that some
guy's uncle dies and they clean out his storage space with the last Foonly
in it, and the nephew can't get a message thru and it goes to the dump.
Well, let me know what you come up with.
My informal instructions to my executor include a list of who to contact,
including this list.
I don't have a Foonly. (and some things are reserved, such as the
archive of floppy disk formats going to Don)
6:57 a.m.
At 09:10 AM 2/1/2002 +0000, Sellam Ismail wrote:
Even better, maybe we can provide a web form to submit
messages to the
list? We can redirect them to that instead, then it'll be easy for them
to post that they found the first Altair that got "lost" in transit to
Popular Electronics that will be given to the first person who replies and
says they'll pay for shipping.
Lately I've been seeing spam that's obviously posted
via a web page form like that. They must be hijacking
poorly written form-mailing CGI out there. Not that
yours would be poor, of course. :-)
- John
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