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Other interesting Intel chips (was iAPX 432 (was Re: 88000 machines))

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Eric Smith" <eric(a)brouhaha.com> > >It's pretty tough to get iAPX 432 stuff. The software is even more >difficult to find than the boards or chips. > Hi The 432 stuff is really hard to get. I do have another almost as hard to find Intel item. It is a evaluation setup for the i2920, not to be confused with the AMD 2920. It is an early DSP chip. It was Intel's idea of what should be done in DSP. It was not too successful because it was not a general purpose type processor like the TI and Motorola DSP entries. It was designed to do a single program, repetitively. One of the example programs was to make a simple spectrum analyzer. You'd feed analog data in and it would run an oscilloscope as the display. It would just need a anti-aliasing filter for the input and connect to the scope. Some of the other hard to find Intel parts are things like the 8021 and 8022 parts. Although not as rare, the 3000 series bit slice parts are getting harder to find as well but these were used on many of the older Multibus disk controller cards. Dwight

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RF output DOES NOT equal Composite!!!!

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) <cisin(a)xenosoft.com> > > btw if you need or know of anybody else here in town that does, I have an > > Amiga 1080 color composite monitor w/sound taking up space.. > > Those are very nice. But it will NOT work for a device that only outputs > RF. No, but he could tap the composite signal off of the Timex pcb a feed a composite monitor with it. Glen 0/0

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Network card for LaserJet

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

> > Okay, Tony. You got me. I guess I should've said "...used for RS-232 >communication." > Or would it be RS-432? :P RS-4xx for almost all xx seems to end up being a serial protocol. RS-422/RS-423/RS-449 (and obviously RS-232) seem to be the most common ones but there seems to be a fair number of relatively obscure ones too. Antonio

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One SCSI tape connected to 2 hosts?

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

>My vaxstation 4000/60's host scsi id is also 6. The early DEC SCSI machines set the host adapter to ID 6, leaving the highest priority ID (7) free. I read something somewhere that suggested that this was insurance just in case something came along that demanded to be the highest priority thing on the bus. Apparently nothing did because the later machines allow the host adapter ID to be set via the console. Typically disks are given lower numbers than tapes, CDROMs seem to sit in the middle. I doubt that it matters in most configurations (it's certainly nowhere near as critical as, say, Qbus priority). Antonio

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Sioux City hamfest

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Gary Hildebrand" <ghldbrd(a)ccp.com> > >Not much to report here, nice turnout, and a few odd items worth noting >. . . . . > >There was a Fluke something, that looked like some sort of terminal that >set up data acquisition on an IEE-488 buss. He had the complete unit >and software and docs. All I remember is that the CRT had a 2:1 aspect >ratio. I'm sure this will turn on some of you obscure stuff collectors. ---snip--- Hi This sounds like the touch screen terminal that Fluke made. This was early touch screen technology and was larger touch locations. Still, it was good enough for simple menu entry. Dwight

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Timex Sinclair 1000 Update and Questions

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Doc Shipley" <doc(a)mdrconsult.com> > ---snip--- > The card-edge cartridge connector is worn nearly through the traces on >the m/b. If the computer is jostled much at all, it loses the RAM and >its little mind. Next mod will be to do some (cheesy, yes I know) wire >patching to the finger traces. ---snip--- Hi As I've mentioned in the past, If you put some silicon grease, like DC#4 on the fingers, you won't have the erratic contact problem on things like the Sinclair. It improve contact by keeping surface oxides from forming. It is non-conductive so it won't cause other problems. Dwight

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Massive qty's VMS Condists available

by classiccmp＠trailing-edge.com

I have, in some big piles here, a couple sets of every VAX/VMS CD-ROM Condist from 1991 or so to the present day. In many cases there are three or four identical copies. I also have a lot of Ultrix (VAX + MIPS) condists up through 1998 or whenever they stopped issuing them. There are some copies of the Y2K kits too. These are mostly "Software Product Library" and "Documentation" sets, so they're largely layered products, but some of them have bootable install kits too. I want to get these kits to hobbyists (is there a Ultrix hobbyist license? Of course there's a VMS one) in as widespread a manner as possible. It'd be easy for me to dump the whole big pile on one guy, but that's not the most efficient way to distribute them, as he'd just be in the same situation that I'm currently in. I'd prefer to not be distributing copies; I want to get the original condists out to folks who want them and will actually use them. Any suggestions as to how to do this in a way that's fair to both me and the recipient? I don't want to E-bay them, but I also don't want to foot the bill myself for shipping out hundreds of these kits. Tim.

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Nova 3

by eric＠rothfus.com

Hi, Anyone out there have schematics or info for the DG Nova 3? I'm restoring one, and am having PS troubles. I could really use CPU and console schematics too. Thanks! Eric Rothfus eric(a)rothfus.com

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Network card for LaserJet

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

> From: ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk > > > But, yes, I agree. Those hubs are the only time _I've_ seen RJ-45 > > used for serial communication. > > Perhaps somebody can explain why 10baseT ethernet is not 'serial > communication' ( :-) ) > > -tony > Okay, Tony. You got me. I guess I should've said "...used for RS-232 communication." Or would it be RS-432? :P -- --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 Mac OS X 10.1 - Darwin Kernel Version 5 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

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One SCSI tape connected to 2 hosts?

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

>What you really need is a PC driver that accepts the fact it isn't >the highest priority device, and leaves the bus reset line alone. Don't forget that the MicroVAX 3100 console also assumes that it is the only master on the bus. I don't think anyone envisaged doing this sort of thing at the time that was written. Later on (sometime during Alpha development) consoles became a little brighter and a shared SCSI bus (mainly for OpenVMS clustering) became possible. Antonio

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HP IPC (update)

by vp＠mcs.drexel.edu

This is the information I have managed to gather on the HP IPC: First have a look at the definitive guide to the IPC (http://www.coho.org/~pete/IPC/integral.html) Apart from that, I have managed to find the following info by playing with my IPC: There is a ROM at the back behind a little door. This contains basically the Unix OS (HP UX) and at least in my case Tech Basic. Tech Basic looks surprisingly like Series 80 Basic (e.g the Basic on the HP-86 and 87) including many ROM additions (e.g. IO ROM). The funny connector on the back (like a small centronics connector) is HP-IB (the HP name for IEEE-488) which is used to connect peripherals like floppies and hard disks. The IPC talks CS/80 over HP-IB so it supports "modern" HP-IB peripherals like the 9122 floppy drive. The IPC also has in internal HP-IL bus (a two wire, low power version of HP-IB) which is used to talk to the built in printer. At this stage I haven't managed to investigate whether I can externalize this bus and connect additional peripherals. The built-in printer takes hp92261a print cartridges which (amazingly) are still available from major mail order firms (e.g. www.staples.com in the US, but I suppose you can get them in the UK as well). Since the print cartridge contains the print head as well, it is very probable that you can get the printer to work with little effort. The IPC site (see URL earlier on) has a number of diskette images. These are for double sided double density (720K) disks. I have been unable to get any modern PC to write compatible floppies using the standard double sided quad density drive (1.44Mb). I did find a 720K drive on eBay and bought a pack of 720K diskettes. Using OpenBSD on a PC I then proceeded to successfully transfer the images to the floppies and access the data from the IPC. BTW the IPC utilities in the IPC site (programs that can be used to read IPC floppies on a Unix host) work only on big-endian machines. You cannot use them on a i386. Before trying to use the built-in floppy drive, note the following: a) its totally non-standard. The connector is wrong and the RPM is wrong. I believe there is no way that you can use a PC compatible drive on that machine. So take good care of it! b) the heads need cleaning and the loading mechanism needs lubricating. If you haven't done this already, do NOT skip this step, you may damage the disk heads if you try to use a drive with a sticky loading mechanism. See later on for cleaning instructions. c) The built-in disk notifies the OS when a new diskette is inserted so that it is automatically mounted. This makes the built in floppy more convenient than external devices. Using the system: Just power it up and you should see the unix boot messages. Finally you see the desktop manager (PAM). You can type paths on the command line on top or use the cursor keys to navigate the file system. If you have an HP-HIL mouse so much the better you just point and click. You should find the BASIC interpreter in /rom/basic. Until you get the floppies from Peter's site, BASIC is the only way to use the machine. Use MASS STORAGE IS path to change your working directory and CAT path to list directories. If you need documentation on Tech BASIC, I suggest you buy an HP-86/87 Owner's manual on eBay. They are close to the real thing and far more common than IPC manuals. For a hint on how to use external peripherals check the file /documents/hp71_xfer on the IPC_BASIC_Bonus diskette. As an example, here is a program that collects readings from an HP multimeter (HP-IB device 13). 100 ! load HP-IB driver 110 MASS STORAGE IS "/dev" 120 ! on Series 80 the HP-IB card is always number 7 130 ASSIGN 7 TO "hpib" 140 ! The 13th HP-IB device is therefore 713 150 m=713 160 ! switch multimeter to remote control 170 REMOTE m 180 ! program multimeter for resistance, auto zero and trigger mode 190 OUTPUT m; "F3R1Z1T2" 200 ! initialize "previous" reading 210 v0=-1 215 DISP "Ready: press STOP to terminate program" 220 ! do while true 230 TRIGGER m 240 ENTER m; S$ 250 ! display value only if different from earlier reading 260 IF v0<>v THEN DISP v 270 v0=v 280 GOTO 220 -------------------------------------------------------------------- Drive removal: Get a torx #10 screwdriver, almost all the screws on the IPC are of this type so there is no point in trying to do any maintenance without one. The plastic diskette eject button seen from the front of the machine, is not attached to the drive and is likely to fall off when you remove the drive. It is best to secure it in place by covering it with a small piece of adhesive tape. This will keep it in place during the removal and subsequent installation of the diskette drive. First remove the back panel. You do NOT need to remove the system ROM to do this, so leave it alone. The panel is held by just two screws (probably the only screws that need a flat blade screwdriver) and hinges on the bottom of the machine. Once the panel is removed you can see the inside of the machine. A big PCB to the left and the floppy to the right. Open the printer door (on the top of the machine) and look at the bottom of the storage compartment next to the printer. You should see two black screws. Remove them. Now the only screw holding the diskette assembly is on screw on the bottom of the assembly (right on top of the PSU). remove the connectors and the last screw. The floppy should slide out towards you. Looking at the the floppy assembly you see a mounting bracket and a full height floppy. Before removing the drive from the mounting bracket mark the orientation of the floppy drive against the bracket with a pencil this will make reassembly easier. Remove the mounting bracket and the metal cover of the floppy. Do not forget to remove a black screw on the back of the floppy, otherwise you will not be able to slide the metal cover out. You should see the loading mechanism on the sides of the floppy. Try inserting a diskette to see how it causes the loading tray to slide along paths on the fixed sides of the drive. These are the only parts that need cleaning and oiling. Use machine lubricating oil (under no circumstances should you use stuff like WD-40). Apply one or two drops on each side and insert/remove the floppy until it slides in and out effortlessly. I use a cleaning floppy to clean the heads, so there is nothing more to do at this stage other than closely inspect the READ/WRITE heads. Hopefully they should have the obvious orientation that allows them to come into contact with the magnetic surface of the floppy. If this is so, then you are in luck, otherwise you lose. Replace the cover and secure the floppy on the mounting bracket. Orient the drive and bracket so that the two screw holes are on top and slide the entire assembly inside the IPC. Attach the top two screws and the bottom screw. You may need to slightly adjust the drive mounting assembly to align the bottom screw. Replace the power and data cables and reattack the back panel. Remove the piece of adhesive tape securing the eject button and you are ready. --------------- Corrections or additions are always welcome. **vp

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Amiga / Spectrum magazines available in UK

by vcf＠siconic.com

Contact the original sender directly if you are interested in these magazines. Reply-to: <john-patrick.stacey(a)wadham.oxford.ac.uk> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 09:47:04 +0100 (BST) From: J-P <john-patrick.stacey(a)wadham.oxford.ac.uk> Subject: Amiga / Spectrum magazines Hi, I have a few years' worth of Amiga Format (1992-1994-ish) and some Crash, Amiga Computing, Sinclair User etc. plus odds and ends. I'd love to donate them, certainly to get them off my hands! Do you have anyone in the UK that can take them off me? J-P -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

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Timex Sinclair 1000 Update and Questions

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Alex White <meltie(a)myrealbox.com> > If they are both plugged into the mains and it's a total > crash/scrambling of the system, my first instinct is an earth loop, > waddya think guys? > > Alex Nah, this is a common symptom of a program which failed to LOAD properly -- the machine may lose its mind and display garbage, requiring a power-fail. Check the tape and the cassette unit. Glen 0/0

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I hate Radio Shack

by jfoust＠threedee.com

Again and again, whenever enough time passes for me to forget how utterly incompetent these people are, and then I place an order for something - or should I say try to place an order for something - those neurons are refreshed with a new memory of exactly how much they *always* screw it up, and they try again to refresh the other neurons that tell me to never, ever expect anything but idiocy from that place, and that it's only useful if I can push them aside, get what I want, and get out without giving them the chance to screw it up. I needed to vent. Thank you. - John

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I hate Radio Shack

by blacklord＠telstra.com

Hi Owen, ----- Original Message ----- From: Owen Robertson <univac2(a)earthlink.net> > I had an experience where a RadioShack employee didn't know what a > null-modem adapter was. And several experience where in the middle of > describing what I'm looking for, I look at the salesman's face, > and realize > that he has no clue what I'm talking about. So I guess when you > walk into a > RadioShack store, and someone asks if they can help you, and you > tell them > no, you're being quite literal - They *can't* help you. This must be a US thing, in general, in Oz, they seem to be a much more knowledgable bunch. But, the drift has been away from electronic components to consumer electronics, that's the market these days, so you can't really expect them to know much about things other than that. cheers, Lance ---------------- Powered by telstra.com

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Does RF output equal Composite?

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Jeff Hellige <jhellige(a)earthlink.net> > I've often considered doing such a mod to my Spectrum so that > I could use it. I've got the directions for adding composite-out to > the Spectrum around here somewhere. That or feed it's output into > the input of my Amiga 3000's TBC+ and have it do the signal > conversion on the fly. The TBC+ is supposed to be capable of such a > thing but I've never actually tried it to see how usable the > resulting signal would be. Tony should be better able to advise you on the UK machines than I am, but a friend of mine has some of the Timex of Portugal (NOT Timex Computer Corp.) machines and a PAL-to-NTSC converter did the trick for him. They cost over $50, though. Glen 0/0

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Does RF output equal Composite?

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Jeff Hellige <jhellige(a)earthlink.net> > Another thing I've noticed with my T/S-1000 and ZX-81 are > that they seem somewhat picky about what TV's they'll work with. > I've got a 19" JVC that was made about 10 or so years ago and some of > the Sinclair's will work fine with it and some won't. They seem to > prefer older sets. I really should try them with the portable B/W > Panasonic that is the monitor for my SOL.... Even when you find a TV the TS-1000 like, the RF is usually dirty. Most cheap, modern B&W sets accept composite input. For fifty cents and 15 minutes time you can a crystal clear display. Glen 0/0

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Does RF output equal Composite?

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

Hey Doc -- > From: Doc <doc(a)mdrconsult.com> > Timex Sinclair 1000 - RF output, VHF Channel 2 or 3 > TV, no spade/screw VHS input > VCR has composite Video In, selected by switch. > > I'm not getting any picture at all running a composite cable from the > Timex to the VCR Video In. Do I need to make a Rat Shack run, or does > the Timex have a problem? You can easily tap off the composite video from the wires leading from the pcb to the RF modulator. If you'd like to buffer the signal, I can send you a small TIFF with a schematic showing how you can do this with one resistor and one transistor. Glen 0/0

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VS4000/90 documentation wanted

by rumi_ml＠rtfm.hu

Hello! I'm searching for VS4K Model 90 docs, in BookReader, PS, PDF, scanned images, or whatever electronic format. especially wanted: EK-KA490-SV (service manual) EK-VAXOG-DK (doc kit) Thank you in advance, Rumi -

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TI99/4A and C=Vic20

by donm＠cts.com

Ran across one each of these at a local thrift. Each in original box, though they have seen some "miles". The TI is a beige case and looks pretty clean. The Vic20 comes with the cassette drive and both look like they need a bath. If anyone is interested in either/both, email me off list and I'll confirm their availability and price and try to estimate shipping costs. If they have a bathroom scale there, I can probably come fairly close on shipping costs given the target Zip code. - don

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RF output DOES NOT equal Composite!!!!

by mythtech＠mac.com

> Can't do it. VCR only accepts cable on RF In, and all I have to >convert the Timex' output is an old video-game input switch with spade & >screw output. > > Looks like a Radio Shack run tomorrow, so let me make certain I know >what I need. Sounds like something that will switch between CATV input >and the RF Channel 2 input from the Timex? I might see if Goodwill has >a $5 B&W TV instead.... What you can use is a "Balun". Its a little adaptor that takes the 300 Ohm spade and screw type connector, and converts it to a 75 Ohm F connector. Figure about $2 for a balun. They make them in both directions (screw to F and F to screw) so if your switch only has screw type connectors on both sides, you can get one for each side to connect it inline with the antenna in on your TV. Also, Rat Shack, I believe sells a newer version of that video game switch. One that will auto switch, and take either the spade and screw input, or F connector, and will output to an F connector (the F connector is the standard US screw on cable TV coax connector). However, that will likely cost you more than a $5 TV. (probably about $20 for the auto switch game adaptor). -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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VS4000/60 and VRE01 problems

by mrbill＠mrbill.net

Anybody had luck hooking a VAXstation 4000/60 with "GS-2" (?) graphics adapter up to a VRE01 flatpanel? I finally got the VS4K from Doc today (thanks for dropping it off, BTW, hope that mono video cable works for you), and got around to hooking it up to the VRE a bit ago. However, all is not right - there looks to be a scan rate/resolution mismatch, and I cant find ANY dipswitches, etc, to set.. Suggestions? Links to the 4000/60 owners manual possibly? I've got pictures of the results: http://gallery.mrbill.net/view_album.php?set_albumName=vre01&page=2 Any help appreciated. I'd LOVE to get this display working.. (and the pictures show the display as yellow - its actually orange..) Bill -- Bill Bradford mrbill(a)mrbill.net Austin, TX

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Does RF output equal Composite?

by mythtech＠mac.com

> OK, I obviously wasn't as clear on the keyboard as I was in my mind. > > Timex Sinclair 1000 - RF output, VHF Channel 2 or 3 > TV, no spade/screw VHS input > VCR has composite Video In, selected by switch. > > I'm not getting any picture at all running a composite cable from the >Timex to the VCR Video In. Do I need to make a Rat Shack run, or does >the Timex have a problem? You can't tie a modulated RF signal to a Composite RCA video jack. Your VCR doesn't have an RF antenna in? (or is that just in use at the moment). Rat Shack won't have a demodulator (go from RF to line composite), but they will have A/B switch boxes and baluns (if the timex has a 300 Ohm two wire lead and you need to go to a F connector). With that you can share an in use RF Input on the VCR with some other source. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Diagnosing the Altos 8000

by pat＠purdueriots.com

OK, I've got the system set up on my 'test bench.' The system powers up and says: ---------------------------------------------------- ALTOS COMPUTER SYSTEMS Monitor Version 5.03 Insert Floppy Disk in Drive 1 for Autoload ---------------------------------------------------- Ok, now I insert a disk into drive 1 (which has it's LED on, close the door, it comes up to speed, and then nothing happens. The drive heads do not load onto the disk liked they're supposed to. A quick check with my multimeter reveals that all the PS voltages (including +24V) are pretty close to their ratings. All the cables are seated securely, Swapping the drives fixed the problem, and it will now boot 32K Altos CP/M 2.2. Sort of a waste with 208K of RAM, but I guess I'll try to figure out how to manufacture an MP/M-II BIOS for it, and get it onto a disk. CP/M-1.4 won't boot, however. It does read OK once I've booted CP/M 2.2, so it might just be a problem with its first track (it doesn't seek at all either). Same problem with the 'CP/M diagnostics disk' Any ideas? I've got a CDC 8" SS drive I got off ebay a few months ago I might try to use to replace these drives. Does anyone know if it's possible to use four drives on the system, since the drives have a DS1-DS4? Also, is there a way to run the diagnostic programs (.DIA files on the diagnostics disk) without booting from it? Pretty soon, i'll probably be digging into some CP/M source and attempting to at least get a 64k version running on here... Thanks -- Pat

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RL01 Field Maintenance Print Set

by fb007b4157_2＠blueyonder.co.uk

I'm trying to fix a problem with an RL01 drive; the drive spins up to speed OK (the scope shows that sector pulse is within required limits), but the fault light comes on before the heads move. The FMPS available at www.mainecoon.com covers version 1 of the Drive Logic Module, however I have version 2 (part 54-13531) and the circuit layout is quite different. Does anyone have a copy of the FMPS for version 2? I need to know what causes pin 11 of the 74279 at location E6 to go low. Hopefully the printset has a comment explaining what this latch does. I have a second drive working OK on the same controller, so I believe the controller is OK. Thanks in advance. Francis ----

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%20ECL%20Logic%20%20-%20not%20ten%20yeas%20old?

by Gordo61＠aol.com

Like to find out more about this (old) message about surplus 95H90's gordo61(a)aol.com

24 years

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HP 715/64 keyboard adaptor

by spc＠conman.org

I'm not sure if this is 10 years old or not, but given that it's not an Intel based system, I'm sure I can slide it by. My roommate just aquired an HP 715/64 but no keyboard. It doesn't take the standard HP keyboard but instead has a 10-pin connector (looks like a 10/100Base-T connector, but has 10 pins) and from searching, it looks like it requires a special keyboard adaptor to use an HP or PC keyboard. Anybody know anything about these? Where he could get one? Maybe make one? -spc (Thanks)

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SimH on Win2K

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> If you want to be bold, use the Intel compiler. It is freely distributed > for Linux systems and as a 30 day evaluation for Windows. SIMH really > buzzes when compiled with it. > > -- hbp Have you tried this with more than just the VAX version of SIMH? I'm wondering how much of an improvement I'd see with the PDP-11 version of SIMH, and KLH10 (KLH's PDP-10 emulator). Does the compiler put any kind of a time limit on how long you can run the executables that you generate? Zane

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".gz" files

by jhfinepw4z＠compsys.to

I need some help. Jay West has kindly posted the file "rt11freewarev2.iso.gz" at: http://www.classiccmp.org/PDP-11/RT-11/freeware-CDS/images/ "rt11freewarev2.iso.gz" is about 171 Mbytes in size. It is my understanding that the full size file "rt11freewarev2.iso" is exactly 671,088,640 bytes in size which is the CD for the RT11 Freeware CD produced by Tim Shoppa. However, when the download of the "rt11freewarev2.iso.gz" file is complete, I end up with a file that is 687,282,673 bytes which is different in size and can NOT be identical to the full size (and correct - Tim Shoppa used to have the full size image at his site and I downloaded it before it was changed to a ".bz2" image) image of the actual CD. I am using Windows 98 SE/Netscape 4.78 and the normal WinZip in case that is part of the problem. Jay has told me: "I spent about 6 hours this morning redownloading (from Tim's site) all 3 freeware cd's, uncompressing them, recalculating MD5 hashes, and rezipping them. The files I just downloaded compare identically with the files on Tim's site, AND those files compare identically to the files I have had on my server for the past few weeks that you already downloaded. I even downloaded those files from my server to my windows pc across the net like everyone else would, and they uncompress and compare identially to the ones on Tim's site. The files on my server have been completely correct since day 1. I don't know what happened on your end when you downloaded the files, but I can assure you what is (and has been) on my site is a correct identical copy of Tim's." I am confident that Jay is correct and that there is something I don't understand with what takes place when I do my download. Can anyone suggest to me what I am doing wrong? PLEASE!! Sincerely yours, Jeremy Fine -- If you attempted to send a reply and the original e-mail address has been discontinued due a high volume of junk e-mail, then the semi-permanent e-mail address can be obtained by replacing the four characters preceding the 'at' with the four digits of the current year.

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Network card for LaserJet

by geoffr＠zipcon.net

At 10:30 AM 6/14/02 -0400, you wrote: > F.Y.I. - My Cabletron MRXI hubs have RJ-45 sockets, for hooking up >to a serial VT420 terminal... :) > But, yes, I agree. Those hubs are the only time _I've_ seen RJ-45 >used for serial communication. Many terminal servers use RJ45 for serial

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iAPX 432 (was Re: 88000 machines)

by Innfogra＠aol.com

In a message dated 6/14/02 4:54:07 PM Pacific Daylight Time, eric(a)brouhaha.com writes: > AFAIK, the last customer release of CDS-432 was release 2.7, which > supported the release 3.2 chips. Intel continued development in house > in support of the Intel/Siemens joint venture (later commercially named > "BiiN"). There were release 3.3 chips, and probably software to support > them, but they were not available to customers. > > I have not been able to obtain a complete copy of any release of > CDS-432 or iMAX-432, nor I have found the diagnostics or DEBUG-432. > I keep hoping that copies of this stuff will turn up eventually, but > things look pretty grim... > > Grim is right. Intel was extremely dedicated to destroying SW. When we were buying from them in that time period we never got any SW. Saw large bins of Intel disks on their way to destruction. Sad. I have the pinboard tester for the Biin CPU card. It came out surplus in a later lot we did not have to certify destruction on. I have full docs on it too. It is a classic museum piece, and I bet nearly the only piece of Biin left. I will try to get pictures up within the next few weeks. It is buried in storage. Paxton Astoria, OR

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88000 machines

by coredump＠gifford.co.uk

All this mention of Motorola's 88000 RISC chip has made me wonder what machines were built around it. Did Data General make anything with it? Was there a Motorola development system? One of my collecting goals is to acquire an example of each of the microprocessor acrhitectures. Now 6502, 8080, 6809, 68000, and so on are easy. What about the Z8000? The 32032 (I do have a Whitechapel)? The 88000? The iAPX432? -- John Honniball coredump(a)gifford.co.uk

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Network card for LaserJet

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

> From: Jim Arnott > > Thanks. > > Never seen Serial RJ-45 ports before > > Jim > F.Y.I. - My Cabletron MRXI hubs have RJ-45 sockets, for hooking up to a serial VT420 terminal... :) But, yes, I agree. Those hubs are the only time _I've_ seen RJ-45 used for serial communication. -- --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 Mac OS X 10.1 - Darwin Kernel Version 5 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

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Mac Color Classic II

by mythtech＠mac.com

>Perhaps it was a part of the OS install on later MacOS versions? Most of the optional items were wrapped into the mail installer starting with OS 8, so I was probably thinking of that rather than 7.5.5 when I said to check the custom install. >Now, a new problem. When I try and run the 7.5.5 upgrade, it starts to >install (with the progress meter), and then says that it can't be >installed and aborts. I downloaded it from the Apple 'Older Software >Downloads' page on apple's site, and the Disk Copy images >checksum-verify ok. Um... does it give you any kind of a reason why it can't install? (any kind of error message?). I don't notice anything that jumps out in Apple's TIL about it, but you might try restarting with extensions off, and then run the updater (restart holding down SHIFT until you get the Welcome To Mac screen) It has been a LONG time since I tried to do a 7.5.3 install and then a .5 update. I have a 7.5.5 Installer CD that I have been using since I got it, and that does the 7.5.3 install, followed directly by the .5 update, so it never seems to have problems. (and I never stop at .3, as .3 was pretty buggy, with .5 fixing much of the problems). It is possible that the Text To Speech installed something that the .5 updater can't get past. Is it possible for you to start over and do the 7.5.3 followed by .5 before installing anything else? Worst case, I can dub you that 7.5.5 install CD and mail it down to you. Now that 7.5.5 is available on Apple's site for free, I don't think there would be any legal issues with me doing that (or at least not ones that Apple would care about persuing). -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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SimH on Win2K

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> > > Bob Supniks excellent emulator (VAX along with many PDPs > > Is this what happened to Charon-VAX... someone else > perfected the commodity so the also-rans gave up? > I had heard that C-V never got up much steam. > > John A. CHARON-VAX is still around http://www.softresint.com/charon-vax/index.htm however, unlike Bob's emulators, it's a commercial product. The Hobbyist version of CHARON-VAX has about the same features as SIMH (I think SIMH supports more devices). However, the commercial version of CHARON-VAX is currently the best product[1], unfortunatly, it costs FAR more than an equivalent VAX! Zane [1] Only the commercial versions of CHARON-VAX have ethernet support.

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Mac Color Classic II

by mythtech＠mac.com

>> Yes, it can talk. Actually, the 128k Mac can talk with the right version >> of MacInTalk (anyone remember the Talking Moose). > >Neat. I think the first real use of MacInTalk I ever saw (beyond Talking Moose, which was the first place I saw it at all, but I considered that a "show off the technology" app) was in the game Captain Magneto (which I never did solve, anyone know how to get the laser gun out of the room on the island?) >I did a custom install, but don't remember seeing it. Where is it/can I >download a copy to install from Apple's downloads site or something? It might have been an optional installer rather than being part of the main OS installer as a custom item. If you have a 7.5 CD, check some of the optional items on it. I would check my 7.5.5 CD, but I forgot it at home (and didn't bother checking last night like I should have) It should be listed as Text-To-Speech or PlainTalk, or you can download the PlainTalk 1.5 installers from Apple's web site. That includes the Text-To-Speech installer. You want to install MacInTalk 2 (there are 3 versions, 2, 3, and Pro. 2 is the one that will probably work best on a Classic II, but 3 might also work, you can try it. Pro is for 040's or PPCs) You can find a list of the older Apple software at: <http://www.info.apple.com/support/oldersoftwarelist.html> Click the link for System Software Downloads (or just scroll down about 2/3's of the page). Then in that list, scroll to the bottom of it. You will find a little ways up from the bottom of the list is "Macintosh/System/Speech/PlainTalk_1.5", the list is alphabetical. You will want the 5 "English_TTS" disks (unless you want to hear your Mac talk in spanish, in which case get the 3 "Mexican_TTS" disks as well. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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88000 machines

by carlos_murillo＠epm.net.co

At 07:22 AM 6/14/02 -0700, you wrote: > You probably mean a DECStation 2100 or 3100. Those are both R2000 >based, only difference between 2100 and 3100 is that the 2100 runs at 12 MHZ >and the 3100 at 16. NetBSD supports them quite well. Probably the fastest >small workstation at the time they came out (1989). They look like, and use >the same (or very similar) case, power supply, peripherals, as VS3100/30/38. Of course, silly me. I meant the 2100. carlos. -------------------------------------------------------------- Carlos E. Murillo-Sanchez carlos_murillo(a)nospammers.ieee.org

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New IBM system stores 25 times as much data as hard drives

by foo＠siconic.com

Here's a new technology with a classic twist: http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/business/3444884.htm IBM invented a medium based in part on scanning electronic microscope technology that creates tiny indentations or holes on a polymer. Each whole is "half a billionth of an inch" in diameter. The storage density is purported to be 25 times that of current hard disk technology (200 CD ROMs on a stamp). This is amazing. The technology is being compared to punch cards. Check out the article above soon as the full-text goes away after a day or so. I see this as one of the most significant inventions of the modern (i.e. < 10 years) computer age because it represents a high-density, long term storage media that can be reliably used for non-volatile archival data storage. And based on mechanical technology. Who woulda thunk? Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

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No IMSAI on ebay

by emu＠ecubics.com

Richard Erlacher wrote on june 13, 1988: > > That's particulary so when one considers that most S-100 hardware was really > not Imsai-comaptible due to timing problems. Talking about timing, you email was sent 14 years ago ;-)

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Mounting tapes on VMS *AAARRRRRRGGGHHHHHH*

by msell＠ontimesupport.com

erf. I've done just about everything I can think of to mount TK50 tapes on my MicroVax (and also on my TK70 on the 4000), and I keep getting the "%MOUNT-I_OPRQST, Please mount device" error. I've tried mounting the tapes with "/FOREIGN" as well - no luck. If I try mounting the tapes with the "/NOASSIST" option - I get the "%MOUNT-F-VOLINV, volume is not software enabled" error. I'm running VMS 6.1. Any ideas? I've tried a half-dozen tapes on both drives with no luck. In fact, there is no tape drive activity at all when the mount command is given. I have been trying to "allocate" the drives beforehand, with no luck in mounting. AGH! Am I doing something dumb? I've been searching the 'NET and "Googling" this problem to death - but I've been following all of the examples. Any ideas? Thanks! - Matt Matthew Sell Programmer On Time Support, Inc. www.ontimesupport.com (281) 296-6066 Join the Metrology Software discussion group METLIST! http://www.ontimesupport.com/subscribe_t&c.html. "One World, One Web, One Program" - Microsoft Promotional Ad "Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer" - Adolf Hitler Many thanks for this tagline to a fellow RGVAC'er...

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Network card for LaserJet

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

I used to work at a law office that had an AT&T Starserver. It had two "concentrators" that each could attach to two 12 port (IIRC) serial "hubs". The serial lines went to terminals and printers, and used RJ-45's with TP wiring. Bob -----Original Message----- From: David Woyciesjes [mailto:DAW@yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu] Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 9:30 AM To: 'cctalk(a)classiccmp.org' Subject: RE: Network card for LaserJet > From: Jim Arnott > > Thanks. > > Never seen Serial RJ-45 ports before > > Jim > F.Y.I. - My Cabletron MRXI hubs have RJ-45 sockets, for hooking up to a serial VT420 terminal... :) But, yes, I agree. Those hubs are the only time _I've_ seen RJ-45 used for serial communication. -- --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 Mac OS X 10.1 - Darwin Kernel Version 5 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

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Mounting tapes on VMS *AAARRRRRRGGGHHHHHH*

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

>I've done just about everything I can think of to mount TK50 tapes on my MicroVax (and also >on my TK70 on the 4000), and I keep getting the "%MOUNT-I_OPRQST, Please mount >device" error. > > > >If I try mounting the tapes with the "/NOASSIST" option - I get the "%MOUNT-F-VOLINV, >volume is not software enabled" error. > /NOASSIST is what you want. Otherwise it is asking an operator (human being) to go off and put the tape in the appropriate device and let the system know when it is in there. You could have done this and then issued the appropriate REPLY command, but on the whole /NOASSIST is much easier. > > I get VOLINV when (from memory) either the tape is not in properly (are the appropriate lights lit?) or I have an unlabelled, unitialised tape. Try $MOUNT/FOREIGN/NOASSIST device: and see what it thinks the volume label is. If you have a scratch tape, you could try: $ INIT device: MY_LABEL $ MOUNT/NOASSIST device: MY_LABEL and see what happens. Make sure it really is a scratch tape though, otherwise the data that was on it will be permanently lost. Antonio

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IMSAI News?

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> Today, I noticed a link on Slashdot about the IMSAI > Series Two at www.imsai.net. Shipping in July. It > LOOKS real, but there are mostly drawings and not > pictures. Uses a Z80 successor CPU. Switching power > supply, though. $995. Still the beautiful front panel > that was as good as most mini's. Frankly, I find this > price hard to believe - too low, given the super > quality of the original machine and the volume this > might be made in. I was looking at the site myself earlier. Most of the cost looks to be from the front panel, and aparently that $995 gets you a pretty bare bones system. I think the disk controller and stuff is extra. Any idea how legit they are? I'm tempted to order the metal piece I needfor the front so I can convert my rack mount case to a tabletop. > Does even discussing this violate the 10 year rule? Not if the "so cool it's already classic" rule is still in effect :^) Sort of like a BeBox is more or less ontopic or NeXT HW was a few years ago :^) Zane

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Mac Color Classic II

by mythtech＠mac.com

>I was wondering... it it capable of 'talking' since it has a 68030 and >built-in speaker? I just installed MacOS 7.5.3 onto it and haven't seen >anything related to speech, and the 'Speak' options in SimpleText are >greyed out. Is there something else I need to do to get it to work? [Yes, >I'm going to update to MacOS 7.5.5.] Yes, it can talk. Actually, the 128k Mac can talk with the right version of MacInTalk (anyone remember the Talking Moose). You need to make sure MacInTalk is installed. I don't think it was a default part of 7.5, so you may have to do a custom install to get it. If MacInTalk is installed, and you still can't talk, let me know, I'll throw 7.5 on a Classic II and see what's up. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Mac Color Classic II

by mythtech＠mac.com

> On this particular desk, for the benefit of the clients (to keep them >occupied and out of the mixer's hair) was a Mac SE running (among other >amusements) a copy of MacPlaymate, and early soft-core 'porn' game. One >of it's attributes was, that as long as the program was launched, it would >grab the speaker and purr lascivious nothings at random intervals. My copy doesn't make noise :-( I guess maybe I'm just not treating her right. Although this does remind me of one of the MANY occasions I got in trouble in high school. I was in a "Computer Music" class, and we were using Mac SEs. Since my lab partner and I were way ahead of the rest of the class (he was a die hard musician, and I knew the Mac and MIDI like the back of my hand), I brought my MacRecorder into class, we hooked it up, and started recording our own samples for our compositions. Well, one of them "accidentally" got left as the alert sound on the Mac. It was a nice clear mix of my partner and my voices going "PENIS.... Wheeeee" (hey, I was in High School, immaturity was in) The Band instructor was in that afternoon trying to use a Mac to write a letter of recommendation for a student... whose parents were there with them. Since he knew almost nothing about computers, he was making quite a few mistakes... with each one getting a solid "PENIS... Wheee" sound. Needless to say, when we showed up for class the next day, we just about had our heads bit off by the Band instructor... and it was all we could do from laughing our asses off at him as he was relaying the events to us in that ever so parental "I'm very pissed off" tone. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Mac Color Classic II

by pat＠purdueriots.com

I was wondering... it it capable of 'talking' since it has a 68030 and built-in speaker? I just installed MacOS 7.5.3 onto it and haven't seen anything related to speech, and the 'Speak' options in SimpleText are greyed out. Is there something else I need to do to get it to work? [Yes, I'm going to update to MacOS 7.5.5.] Thanks -- Pat

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I hate Radio Shack

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

I had a 12-in-1 RS kit, but that was back (ca. 1960) when you had to _solder_ the connections (and unsolder them to change from one project to another). It also used 120V, one tube, and no transisters. Great fun, though. -----Original Message----- From: Jim Arnott [mailto:jrasite@eoni.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 11:11 PM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: I hate Radio Shack Carlos, FWIW, that kit is still in production and is used in the local jr. college's Intro to Electricity course. Jim Carlos Murillo wrote: > But, going back to the original topic, as much as I also hate RS, > I have fond, lasting memories of my "150 in 1" electronic projects > kit. It was the best present that an uncle [1] could give to a 12 year > old. >

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HSC Stuff Possibly Available in MI

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

Oops, Michigan even... *sigh*.. this has not been my day. Will J _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

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HSC Stuff Possibly Available in MI

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

Aren't TA91s DEC versions of one of those freakish IBM 36-track tape cartridge drives? Damn me, for not living near Ohio. Will J _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

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Non-DEC SCSI tape drives with VMS

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Bob Lafleur [mailto:bob_lafleur@technologist.com] > Has anyone successfully used non-DEC SCSI tape (cartridge) drives with > VMS? If so, what types have you been successful with? Travan? > DAT? 8mm? > Which models? Used an HP DDS drive. No problem, but I don't remember the model. I know of an Exabyte "Eliant something-or-other" D8 drive that was used on a VMS system. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL "Confutatis maledictus, flammis acribus addictus, voca me cum benedictis. Oro supplex et acclinis, cor contritunt quasi cinis, gere curarn mei finis." -Requiem

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