14 Jun
2002
14 Jun
'02
4:35 p.m.
If you want to be bold, use the Intel compiler. It is
freely distributed
for Linux systems and as a 30 day evaluation for Windows. SIMH really
buzzes when compiled with it.
-- hbp
Have you tried this with more than just the VAX version of SIMH? I'm
wondering how much of an improvement I'd see with the PDP-11 version of
SIMH, and KLH10 (KLH's PDP-10 emulator).
Does the compiler put any kind of a time limit on how long you can run the
executables that you generate?
Zane
14 Jun
14 Jun
11:55 p.m.
New subject: SimH on Win2K - Intel compilers
Zane H. Healy wrote:
>If you want to be bold, use the Intel compiler. It
is freely distributed
>for Linux systems and as a 30 day evaluation for Windows. SIMH really
>buzzes when compiled with it.
Have you tried this with more than just the VAX
version of SIMH? I'm
wondering how much of an improvement I'd see with the PDP-11 version of
SIMH, and KLH10 (KLH's PDP-10 emulator).
I was using it last year to do some simple benchmarks onthe PDP-10
simulators and the Intel compiler at that time handliy beat the MS and
Borland ones in speed of compiled code. Intel recently released new
improved versions.
Does the compiler put any kind of a time limit on how
long you can run the
executables that you generate?
The Linux version can be downloaded and used without restriction for
personal use, the Windows version comes with a 30 day evaluation period.
Ther is not restriction on executables generated that I know of.
-- hbp
15 Jun
15 Jun
12:51 a.m.
New subject: [CCTECH] DEC 3000/600?
Hello,
I made a haul of various computer stuff yesterday, most of which is too
new to qualify
for the 10 year rule, but not sure if this one is or not.
It is a Digital Equipment 3000, Model 600.
It is a desktop-style case with horizontal orientation. It's HEAVY.
Anyone know anything about this machine?
It powers up OK, and goes through a sequence of flashing different codes
(POST?)
on 8 LED's on the back panel. I haven't hooked up a console to it (it
uses a
funky RJ-style connector for the console port). It has a CD-ROM drive
in the of
the cabinet. There is an old-style Centronics SCSI connector on the
back, as
well as old AUI-style 10Base2 connector for Ethernet. It also appears
to have
a built-in ISDN interface. There's three slots for option cards, and
one haswhat appears to be some kind of color framebuffer card with a
3-pin (RGB?) D-style connector.
Can anyone tell me more about this machine? What processor does it use?
Is it
VAX-like? Operating systems? VMS/Ultrix?
I haven't opened the machine up to see what's inside as yet, didn't have
much time
this afternoon to dig into it deeper.
Any help appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Rick Bensene
The Old Calculator Web Museum
http://www.geocities.com/oldcalculators
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New subject: [CCTECH] DEC 3000/600?
On Fri, 14 Jun 2002, Rick Bensene wrote:
Hello,
I made a haul of various computer stuff yesterday, most of which is too
new to qualify
for the 10 year rule, but not sure if this one is or not.
It is a Digital Equipment 3000, Model 600.
It is a desktop-style case with horizontal orientation. It's HEAVY.
How many people have asked what a DEC 3000 is in the last few months? I
know I did, and one or two other people...
Anyone know anything about this machine?
Yes. It's a Turbochanel Alpha machine, the 175MHz Sandpiper+. Runs
Digital Unix (or OSF/1 or whatever it's now called), VMS, or NetBSD.
NetBSD doesn't support the LK{4|2}01 keybard, however. Linux might or
might not be functional on it.
Easiest way to find out info is google. NetBSD's site has info on it
Aparently there's a work on getting the Alpha Linux port to work...
http://www.phys.ufl.edu/~prescott/linux/alpha/dec3000-port.html
The HP/Compaq specs...
http://www.compaq.com/alphaserver/archive/axp/dec3000_600.html
More random info...
http://www.psych.usyd.edu.au/pdp-11/alpha_specs.html
It powers up OK, and goes through a sequence of
flashing different codes
(POST?)
on 8 LED's on the back panel. I haven't hooked up a console to it (it
uses a
funky RJ-style connector for the console port). It has a CD-ROM drive
in the of
It's called MMJ. You can find out info on it by using google.
the cabinet. There is an old-style Centronics SCSI
connector on the
back, as
Not centronics. SCSI-I. I'm starting to feel that hangover again. :)
well as old AUI-style 10Base2 connector for Ethernet.
It also appears
to have
Errr AUI == DA15 connector, 10Base2 == BNC connector. Do you mean AUI or
10Base2? My 3000/600 has a 10BaseT (RJ45) connector on back as well, does
yours?
a built-in ISDN interface. There's three slots
for option cards, and
Yup.
one haswhat appears to be some kind of color
framebuffer card with a
3-pin (RGB?) D-style connector.
Standard connector for the framebuffer. Sun and IBM also use it, but IBM
has a different pinout (swap red/green?).
-- Pat
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New subject: [CCTECH] DEC 3000/600?
On 14 Jun, Rick Bensene wrote:
It is a Digital Equipment 3000, Model 600.
That
is a nice machine. I have one too, but I can not afford to run it.
It produces to much heat. (As I have some other heaters running like
that 500MHz Alpha...) :-(
I am afraid to say that this machine may not be 10 years old. But I am
sure you will get dispense, as this thing is Cool Stuff (C) (R) (TM) and
nearly 10 years old. ;-)
It's HEAVY.
Of course, it's DEC.
Anyone know anything about this machine?
I know
evertything about it. ;-)
I haven't hooked up a console to it (it uses a
funky RJ-style connector for the console port).
This connector is called MMJ, a
DECism. google for pinouts...
There is an old-style Centronics SCSI connector on the
back,
Yes. It has two FastSCSI busses. One internal and one external.
as well as old AUI-style 10Base2 connector for
Ethernet.
And it should have a 10BaseT connector. You can select the Ethernet
port via a console environment variable.
It also appears to have a built-in ISDN interface.
Yes.
There's three slots for option cards,
Yes.
That are TurboChannel slots.
and one haswhat appears to be some kind of color
framebuffer card
This is the framebuffer, the type should be printed on the card.
(Somthing like PMAGB-B)
Do you have the keyboard / mouse break out cable? This cable has a SubD
15 at one end, and a little box with keyboard / mouse connectors at the
other. You need a DEC LK201 / LK401 keyboard and VSXXX mouse.
If you don't have it, look at the back. There is a litle switch (S3?)
that you can flip to force the machine to the serial console on the MMJ
connector.
with a 3-pin (RGB?) D-style connector.
This
connector is called 3W3 and it is RGB with sync on green.
Can anyone tell me more about this machine?
Ask, if any questions left. :-)
What processor does it use?
Alpha EV4 21064
175MHz.
Is it VAX-like?
No.
Operating systems? VMS/Ultrix?
VMS
OSF/1 / DEC UNIX / Tru64 UNIX
NetBSD, OpenBSD, perhaps FreeBSD
_no_ Linux
_no_ Ultrix
If you want a free *ix, go with NetBSD. The upcoming NetBSD 1.6 release
will support some of the framebuffers for console and even X11.
If you happen to have a Tru64 license, try it. It is a nice, BSDish *ix
that can Move Big Rocks (C) (R) (TM).
If VMS is your taste, you have the perfect machine to run it.
--
tschuess,
Jochen
Homepage: http://www.unixag-kl.fh-kl.de/~jkunz
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New subject: [CCTECH] DEC 3000/600?
On Fri, 14 Jun 2002, Rick Bensene wrote:
Hello,
I made a haul of various computer stuff yesterday, most of which is too
new to qualify
for the 10 year rule, but not sure if this one is or not.
It is a Digital Equipment 3000, Model 600.
It is a desktop-style case with horizontal orientation. It's HEAVY.
Anyone know anything about this machine?
It powers up OK, and goes through a sequence of flashing different codes
(POST?)
on 8 LED's on the back panel. I haven't hooked up a console to it (it
uses a
funky RJ-style connector for the console port). It has a CD-ROM drive
in the of
the cabinet. There is an old-style Centronics SCSI connector on the
back, as
well as old AUI-style 10Base2 connector for Ethernet. It also appears
to have
a built-in ISDN interface. There's three slots for option cards, and
one haswhat appears to be some kind of color framebuffer card with a
3-pin (RGB?) D-style connector.
Can anyone tell me more about this machine? What processor does it use?
Is it
VAX-like? Operating systems? VMS/Ultrix?
Processor = Alpha 21064A @ 175 MHz
ECC memory
OS = VMS,OSF1/DU/Trunix/whatever,NetBSD
Fast narrow SCSI (10 Mbytes/sec)
10M Ethernet
Video is 3 wire (3W3 connector) probably 1280X1024@72Hz sync-on-green
Needs funny cable/adapter for KB/mouse (I have many if you need one)
Fairly good room heater...
I haven't opened the machine up to see what's inside as yet, didn't have
much time
this afternoon to dig into it deeper.
Any help appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Rick Bensene
The Old Calculator Web Museum
http://www.geocities.com/oldcalculators
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